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#1 Respawn-d
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A console which cant play pirated games is given DRM that forces the user to have a constantconnection. This is pathetic . Whats more pathetic is that they decided not to tell anyone till they bought the game.

http://kotaku.com/5523238/capcom-apologizes-for-not-telling-users-of-final-fight-drm

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#2 gameofthering
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Something to do with PSN sharing.

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#3 sam_nintendo
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WTF? Not cool Capcom, not cool.

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#4 kuraimen
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Yea I bought the game the minute it came out. Had I known this I wouldn't have bothered since I share PSN games with some friends. Capcom = Fail and Sony too for not letting us know either.
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#5 locopatho
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Dam that sucks for PS people.
WTF? Not cool Ubi, not cool.sam_nintendo
Lol I guess we automatically blame Ubi for all DRM related stuff these days :P
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#6 sam_nintendo
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Dam that sucks for PS people.
WTF? Not cool Ubi, not cool.sam_nintendo
Lol I guess we automatically blame Ubi for all DRM related stuff these days :P

Ugh, brainfail. I even read the article! Fix'd now :P
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#7 Teuf_
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It sucks that they didn't let people know about it ahead of time, but I can't blame them for requiring it. Game-sharing is pretty rampant on PSN.

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#8 Gxgear
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Sucks for those who had a brief moment of nostalgia and bought this.

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DRM on PS3 is irony at its finest lol.

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#10 II_Seraphim_II
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It sucks that they didn't let people know about it ahead of time, but I can't blame them for requiring it. Game-sharing is pretty rampant on PSN.

Teufelhuhn

Why doesn't Sony make it so that any DLC you download will only work on 1 single PS3? And if you PS3 dies and you buy a new one, you can syncs your PS3 DLC to your new console, but it automatically "un-syncs" it from the previous one, so you can no longer play the DLC on that console. Also, in the case of single player DLC that can be played off line, maybe if you "un-sync" it from a console the next time you go on PSN, it updates the status of all your PSN DLC and automatically blocks it. So technically, you can have more than one PS3 with offline single player DLC running, but the moment the other unsynced consoles decide to go online, they get the DLC blocked out. It would probably cut the "share" rate down, because I'm not willing to stop gaming online for the sake of some DLC 5hr game :P Maybe it's too much work :P

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#11 Brainkiller05
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thought consolites had no problem with that idea, you guys said it was no big deal when it happened to PC games
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#12 locopatho
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thought consolites had no problem with that idea, you guys said it was no big deal when it happened to PC games Brainkiller05
Pretty sure it's one of the reasons I dislike PC gaming?
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#13 foxhound_fox
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Other than not telling users, I don't see what is wrong here.
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#14 Puckhog04
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That's pretty sad. Ubisoft needs to be stopped...:)

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

It sucks that they didn't let people know about it ahead of time, but I can't blame them for requiring it. Game-sharing is pretty rampant on PSN.

II_Seraphim_II

Why doesn't Sony make it so that any DLC you download will only work on 1 single PS3? And if you PS3 dies and you buy a new one, you can syncs your PS3 DLC to your new console, but it automatically "un-syncs" it from the previous one, so you can no longer play the DLC on that console. Also, in the case of single player DLC that can be played off line, maybe if you "un-sync" it from a console the next time you go on PSN, it updates the status of all your PSN DLC and automatically blocks it. So technically, you can have more than one PS3 with offline single player DLC running, but the moment the other unsynced consoles decide to go online, they get the DLC blocked out. It would probably cut the "share" rate down, because I'm not willing to stop gaming online for the sake of some DLC 5hr game :P Maybe it's too much work :P

*shrug*

I guess they wanted people to be able to own multiple PS3's and still be able to play their games, or they didn't want people to have trouble transferring games when buying a new PS3.

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#16 Menalque2
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Capcom are such a greedy company.

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#17 Teuf_
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Capcom are such a greedy company.

Menalque2



They're greedy because they want people to actually pay for their games instead of exploiting a loophole in PSN? :?

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They're greedy because they want people to actually pay for their games instead of exploiting a loophole in PSN? :?

Teufelhuhn

Have I misunderstoof? I thought this was about Capcom forcing users to stay online in order to play Final Fight.

Besides, it would be one among many reasons. Day 1 DLC and worthless collectors editions are what Capcom do best.

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#19 Pug-Nasty
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The fail belongs to anyone buying a Capcom game.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

It sucks that they didn't let people know about it ahead of time, but I can't blame them for requiring it. Game-sharing is pretty rampant on PSN.

II_Seraphim_II

Why doesn't Sony make it so that any DLC you download will only work on 1 single PS3? And if you PS3 dies and you buy a new one, you can syncs your PS3 DLC to your new console, but it automatically "un-syncs" it from the previous one, so you can no longer play the DLC on that console. Also, in the case of single player DLC that can be played off line, maybe if you "un-sync" it from a console the next time you go on PSN, it updates the status of all your PSN DLC and automatically blocks it. So technically, you can have more than one PS3 with offline single player DLC running, but the moment the other unsynced consoles decide to go online, they get the DLC blocked out. It would probably cut the "share" rate down, because I'm not willing to stop gaming online for the sake of some DLC 5hr game :P Maybe it's too much work :P

Because some people have more than one system for different rooms, and they should be able to play everything they bought on all of them. And this DRM is even sillier, because it won't even allow people with different accounts on the same systemto play the content.

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#20 Hahadouken
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Well, I was going to buy this. Now I'm not. No DRM.
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#21 RadecSupreme
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They should be sued for lack of informing.

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#22 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

Capcom are such a greedy company.

Teufelhuhn



They're greedy because they want people to actually pay for their games instead of exploiting a loophole in PSN? :?

Loophole? Sony put the feature there for a reason.

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#23 Mystic-G
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LOL... Can't wait for other publishers to start catching on.

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#24 Respawn-d
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I dont say how this even stops game sharing :| capcom I dissapoint

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#25 CannedWorms
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Disgraceful:(. How long can the gaming industry get away with doing stuff like this? This is illegal and if we a consumer has a legal right for a perk such as this, they should not have that taken away from them. If there was justice Capcom should be sued and give users who unknowingly purchased the DRM ridden game a refund.

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#26 Menalque2
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'But come on you guyz... we did say sorry. What more do you want? Get over it... DRM is the "in" thing these days anyway.'

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#27 CannedWorms
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"We are not committed to do this with all titles moving forward but the only way to evaluate impact was to try it with one title first."

What does that even mean:?? Companies don't just do this as a one-off. It's obvious that if this method works and enough people buy it then it will be implemented in future games.

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#29 GeneralShowzer
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Maybe they will put DRM where the game is linked to your account and you can't resell it, or loan it to a friend. That will be funny.

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#31 Mystic-G
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Maybe they will put DRM where the game is linked to your account and you can't resell it, or loan it to a friend. That will be funny.

GeneralShowzer
CD-keys here we come. =D
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"We are not committed to do this with all titles moving forward but the only way to evaluate impact was to try it with one title first."

What does that even mean:?? Companies don't just do this as a one-off. It's obvious that if this method works and enough people buy it then it will be implemented in future games.

CannedWorms
That's exactly what they said. The only way to evaluate impact was to try it with one title first... and if people hate it, maybe it goes away.. if people buy the game anyway, DRM stays. No sale from me.
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They say other games on the PSN are like this too, anyone know which ones they are refering to?
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#34 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Maybe they will put DRM where the game is linked to your account and you can't resell it, or loan it to a friend. That will be funny.

Mystic-G
CD-keys here we come. =D

It's about time i mean, Bioware your DLC isn't doing the trick. Console players will continue to legally steal from you.
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#36 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Maybe they will put DRM where the game is linked to your account and you can't resell it, or loan it to a friend. That will be funny.

GeneralShowzer
CD-keys here we come. =D

It's about time i mean, Bioware your DLC isn't doing the trick. Console players will continue to legally steal from you.

It's incredible the several ways a company can legally steal from users yet when users steal from a company they are compared to muderers and pillagers (pirates).
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#37 Respawn-d
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What happened to the "superior" PSN service? I thought you guys constantly rave how much better its supposed to be than XBL?

darthvader1993

Go pay your soon to be 75 dollars a year :P

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#38 Menalque2
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Ah I see, it was done to combat "rampant PSN filesharing". It's all the victims' fault.

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#39 warmaster670
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Yea I bought the game the minute it came out. Had I known this I wouldn't have bothered since I share PSN games with some friends. Capcom = Fail and Sony too for not letting us know either.kuraimen

Waaaah, it did exactly what it was supposed to, stop yo0u from screwing game companies.

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#40 Teuf_
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Have I misunderstoof? I thought this was about Capcom forcing users to stay online in order to play Final Fight.

Menalque2



Yes, and the reason they're doing that is prevent 5 people from playing the game at once via game sharing.

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#41 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

Capcom are such a greedy company.

kuraimen



They're greedy because they want people to actually pay for their games instead of exploiting a loophole in PSN? :?

Loophole? Sony put the feature there for a reason.



They put it there to allow a single person to play their games on multiple consoles...not for a bunch of different people to play games without buying them.

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They say other games on the PSN are like this too, anyone know which ones they are refering to?VideoGameGuy


I believe Warhawk is one of them.

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#43 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]They say other games on the PSN are like this too, anyone know which ones they are refering to?Teufelhuhn



I believe Warhawk is one of them.

Warhawk is online only, so that's a strange exception. I don't think it does though, I've LANed that game between my two PS3's before. No online was necessary. I myself have two copies of Warhawk and I have two PS3's.

I find this Capcom Measure to be punishing, as I go offline all the time (when one of my PS3's travel).

I'm hearing the XBLA version also has an issue with the game as well :

"Then I tried to play the sword game that came with it said I had to be connected to Live."

My problem is that as a person that has two PS3's, and as someone that plays offline a lot, this is double whammy for me, an honest customer. I wanted to buy this too, it's a shame but Capcom lost a customer when it comes to this game. I have $51 dollars in PSN money, and although I did think $10 was a bit pricey for this old game I own on SNES and on Wii VC, I figured the new online co op features might be fun (I bought TMNT on PSN, I bought Streets of Rage on XBLA, along with other games like this game). I guess it's Capcom's loss.

The main problem is not telling everyone up front. I heard about this before Kotaku anyways, from a buddy at work who also has Two PS3's (Blu-Ray's in the Bedroom FTW).

Hopefully, they come up with a different solution next time. What about those that have a poor internet connection? It's just unfair.

Here's the other problem summed up by another user :

"Eventually there will be a PS4 and the PS3 PSN will go offline, what happens then? Will they ensure that my PS3 PSN games can be ported to my PS4? No, they'll sell it to you again though!"

This just hurts users in the long run, unfortunately.

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#44 felipebo
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DRM on PS3 is irony at its finest lol.

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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]They say other games on the PSN are like this too, anyone know which ones they are refering to?Teufelhuhn



I believe Warhawk is one of them.

Thats only cus warhawk is an online only game like mag

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yasee....yasee...this is the kind of crap were trying to get rid of on the PC. we, as gamers, all of us, should be against this nonsense. im not anti all DRM but there are DRM systems like this and ubis that clearly just take this piss. crud...i just bought monster hunter. if i had known this then i would have added capcom to my ubi boycot. added now anywho.
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#47 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]They say other games on the PSN are like this too, anyone know which ones they are refering to?SolidTy



I believe Warhawk is one of them.

Warhawk is online only, so that's a strange exception. I don't think it does though, I've LANed that game between my two PS3's before. No online was necessary. I myself have two copies of Warhawk and I have two PS3's..



Well it does have offline and LAN modes, and I thought I remembered the game always requiring you to sign into PSN even if you were playing those modes. But it's been a long time, so I could be mistaken.

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#48 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

DRM on PS3 is irony at its finest lol.

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How so? D: doesn't seem as special as the one I got!

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[QUOTE="darthvader1993"]

What happened to the "superior" PSN service? I thought you guys constantly rave how much better its supposed to be than XBL?

Respawn-d

Go pay your soon to be 75 dollars a year :P

You do realise that was just a rumor right?

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#50 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Maybe they will put DRM where the game is linked to your account and you can't resell it, or loan it to a friend. That will be funny.

GeneralShowzer

CD-keys here we come. =D

It's about time i mean, Bioware your DLC isn't doing the trick. Console players will continue to legally steal from you.

Heed my words, CD-keys WILL come to consoles. Renting and used game sales put a massive dent in the revenue publishers and developers pull in. What better way to stop it all than to slap a CD-key on your game? Unlike PC, there's no simple way around it so there would be no fighting it.