WTF happened to MGS Rising?

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#1 ActionRemix
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I was INCREDIBLY hyped for the amazing game they showed off last year:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc&t=1m40shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMdu_dUzjfE Like Goddamn. That was like the craziest looking game I've ever seen. The freedom of swordplay blew away anything ever seen in a vidoe game. And then we find out the truth. They turned it into a brawler/hack and slash with QTE. I could have cried today.

2010:

2011:

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#2 spookykid143
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Platinum are the devs the game will be great.

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#3 cainetao11
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I liked what I saw. Looking forward to it.
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#4 finalfantasy94
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no this is a joke

why did the chicken cross the rode...to get to the other side. Oh yea.

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#5 Nengo_Flow
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I would agree, it does look like a joke, BUT who knows....... we cant really say much either at this point
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#6 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Either that was some kind of tech demo or we all got trolled. Probably the latter.

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#7 ActionRemix
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REVENGEANCE. Please tell me this is a joke, Kojima. You were laughing your ass off saying "I'm sorry" over and over again before you showed the trailer.
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#8 finalfantasy94
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REVENGEANCE. Please tell me this is a joke, Kojima. You were laughing your ass off saying "I'm sorry" over and over again before you showed the trailer.ActionRemix

I liked what I saw but yea that word is terrible.

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#9 Jebus213
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Well it's just a spinoff right?
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#10 ActionRemix
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Well it's just a spinoff right?Jebus213
I don't want it to be Metal Gear Solid. I want it to be what was shown at E3 2010, not this horsesh-t.
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#11 finalfantasy94
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Well it's just a spinoff right?Jebus213

yup.

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#13 el3m2tigre
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They changed the title to Metal Gear Rising, but yea, i was hugely disappointed. They turned it into a generic hack'n slash now.

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#14 ShadowriverUB
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It seems there is still cutting system, but it was simplified. Thru i hope it will have MGS qulity story and humor.... and snake apperence :p

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#15 ActionRemix
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It seems there is still cutting system, but it was simplified. Thru i hope it will have MGS qulity story and humor.... and snake apperence :p

ShadowriverUB
They simplified it A LOT. It looks like they chucked the original engine entirely.
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#16 Nengo_Flow
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Well it's just a spinoff right?Jebus213
thank god I hope that the last and only Rising game. Dont make this a trilogy Kojima (although he didnt really make this game anyways)
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#17 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

It seems there is still cutting system, but it was simplified. Thru i hope it will have MGS qulity story and humor.... and snake apperence :p

ActionRemix

They simplified it A LOT. It looks like they chucked the original engine entirely.

Yea it seems like there isn't any physics at all.

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#18 ActionRemix
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My guess is they thought it would be too hard for gamers so they made it a button masher.
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]REVENGEANCE. Please tell me this is a joke, Kojima. You were laughing your ass off saying "I'm sorry" over and over again before you showed the trailer.finalfantasy94

I liked what I saw but yea that word is terrible.

You'll fall in love with it sooner or later. It's like Bayonetta's "Non-stop infinite climax action".

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#20 mitu123
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It's developed by Platinum Games...I expect it to be good.

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#21 Nengo_Flow
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They changed the title to Metal Gear Rising, but yea, i was hugely disappointed. They turned it into a generic hack'n slash now.

el3m2tigre

did you notice how many hits it took to take down an enemy? Good Lord!

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This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

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#23 _VenomX
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First trailer, 1 slice is enough to cut an enemy.

1 year later, his blade got rusty and now it took him alot of strikes to cut an enemy.

:P

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#24 Eponique
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First trailer, 1 slice is enough to cut an enemy.

1 year later, his blade got rusty and now it took him alot of strikes to cut an enemy.

:P

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Nice to know PlatinumGames isn't too big on the "cinematic experience" stuff. I'm hoping for another deep, fun, stylish beat 'em up. :D
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This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

sandbox3d
Kojima hasn't cared about the quality of the series since MGS3. He hates the MGS fanbase and it's blatantly obvious. Everything from MGS4 on has been him intentionally pissing all of the franchise so it will die, but people still eat that s*** up and ask for seconds.
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#26 ShadowriverUB
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BTW where all the lems has gone, the mighty defenders of MGR that treat annoucment of itas like MGS4 become multiplat? :p

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#27 p3anut
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It's Dynasty Warriors 8.

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#28 ActionRemix
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This was my only must-buy of 2012. This whole year has been abysmal for me. I'm considering getting out of gaming altogether.
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This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

sandbox3d

So cause you dont like it he stoped caring? wow that logic is awesome. Im sorry but imo MGS4 was the second best MGS. With 1 bening number 1.

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It seams the game is now set after MGS4 and not between MGS 2 and 4.. The gameplay has been revamped to completely eliminate the stealth and so it's completely action oriented. Kojima wasn't too happy at all about the colaboration between Konami and Platinum Games.

I'm ure the game will be great but I will never consider it a Metal Gear game. :(

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Game looked terrible.
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It seams the game is now set after MGS4 and not between MGS 2 and 4.. The gameplay has been revamped to completely eliminate the stealth and so it's completely action oriented. Kojima wasn't too happy at all about the colaboration between Konami and Platinum Games.

I'm ure the game will be great but I will never consider it a Metal Gear game. :(

lancea34

where did you get that from?

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#33 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

DarkLink77

Kojima hasn't cared about the quality of the series since MGS3. He hates the MGS fanbase and it's blatantly obvious. Everything from MGS4 on has been him intentionally pissing all of the franchise so it will die, but people still eat that s*** up and ask for seconds.

its crap therefore its fact its crap:roll:. Opinion people.

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it honestly looks like a generic hack and slash game and I can't believe how ugly it looks compared to MGS4.

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#35 el3m2tigre
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Let's hope this doesn't happen to Final Fantasy Versus XIII too >:[

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#36 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

finalfantasy94

Kojima hasn't cared about the quality of the series since MGS3. He hates the MGS fanbase and it's blatantly obvious. Everything from MGS4 on has been him intentionally pissing all of the franchise so it will die, but people still eat that s*** up and ask for seconds.

its crap therefore its fact its crap. Opinion people.

It's so obvious that he wanted nothing to do with MGS4, and tied up every possible end (and ruined most of it) so he could be done with the franchise.
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#37 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Kojima hasn't cared about the quality of the series since MGS3. He hates the MGS fanbase and it's blatantly obvious. Everything from MGS4 on has been him intentionally pissing all of the franchise so it will die, but people still eat that s*** up and ask for seconds.DarkLink77

its crap therefore its fact its crap. Opinion people.

It's so obvious that he wanted nothing to do with MGS4, and tied up every possible end (and ruined most of it) so he could be done with the franchise.

Translation:I didint like and how it turned out sot it so its obvious he wanted nothing to do with it and is crap.People need to learn the word opinoin. I know you didint like it but dont try to make things factual.

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#38 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

its crap therefore its fact its crap. Opinion people.

finalfantasy94

It's so obvious that he wanted nothing to do with MGS4, and tied up every possible end (and ruined most of it) so he could be done with the franchise.

Translation:I didint like it so its obvious he wanted nothing to do with it. So yea I disagree buddy.

There was a trailer for the game where he was sitting in a chair with the name "Alan Smithee" written on it. Do you know what that means? It's a pseudonym used by directors who want to disown the films they're working on.
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#39 madsnakehhh
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What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

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[QUOTE="lancea34"]

It seams the game is now set after MGS4 and not between MGS 2 and 4.. The gameplay has been revamped to completely eliminate the stealth and so it's completely action oriented. Kojima wasn't too happy at all about the colaboration between Konami and Platinum Games.

I'm ure the game will be great but I will never consider it a Metal Gear game. :(

finalfantasy94

where did you get that from?

"In addition, the KojiPro Report also revealed that the plot setting had changed to be happening after MGS4, and that Platinum Games will end up using the opportunity to create content based on their own ideas."

Taken from the MGS Wiki, they also had a link to this: http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/

Just download the report and listen to it.

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When did Kojima say that? The whining in this thread is hilarious. What we saw is going to be EVERY option and encounter in the game? There will be nothing else to this game now? We know that it is a button masher and that's all? It cracks me up. Like that cutting of the enemy couldn't be a take off on a Ninja Gaiden UT, with other ways of cutting and playing to be seen?
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's so obvious that he wanted nothing to do with MGS4, and tied up every possible end (and ruined most of it) so he could be done with the franchise.DarkLink77

Translation:I didint like it so its obvious he wanted nothing to do with it. So yea I disagree buddy.

There was a trailer for the game where he was sitting in a chair with the name "Alan Smithee" written on it. Do you know what that means? It's a pseudonym used by directors who want to disown the films they're working on.

execpt the chair he sat on wasint that one. Someone elses name poped up. Then he sat in a nameless chair then his name poped up. It was a comical trailer and im pretty sure thats why he did that to that persons chair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC5J2fUPNqA

starts at 1:57.

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#43 ActionRemix
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What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

madsnakehhh
People like you are why developers stopped bothering to make good games.
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#44 lancea34
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

ActionRemix
People like you are why developers stopped bothering to make good games.

He's right. :|
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#45 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

ActionRemix

People like you are why developers stopped bothering to make good games.

opinoins are beautiful arent they.

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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

ActionRemix

People like you are why developers stopped bothering to make good games.

Yep, is obvious that you are right and i'm wrong...grow up a little ok.

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WTF happened to MGS Rising? ActionRemix
it turned into Ninja Gaiden.
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#48 Eponique
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What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

madsnakehhh
True words. I'm glad it wasn't just another shooter :)
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#49 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="lancea34"]

It seams the game is now set after MGS4 and not between MGS 2 and 4.. The gameplay has been revamped to completely eliminate the stealth and so it's completely action oriented. Kojima wasn't too happy at all about the colaboration between Konami and Platinum Games.

I'm ure the game will be great but I will never consider it a Metal Gear game. :(

lancea34

where did you get that from?

"In addition, the KojiPro Report also revealed that the plot setting had changed to be happening after MGS4, and that Platinum Games will end up using the opportunity to create content based on their own ideas."

Taken from the MGS Wiki, they also had a link to this:

Just download the report and listen to it.

ah well thats werid since theres some things that dont make sense from that trailer then.

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#50 cainetao11
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Its obvious some had preconcieved notions of what this game was going to be. I never once thought it would be a stealth first game. Hence the former moniker,"lighting bolt action". But hey no game is for everyone.