WTF happened to MGS Rising?

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] raiden was there in the 2010 version :/ also it's time you guys realize that the game you were hyped for was so bad they gave up on it.BrunoBRS

I liked what I saw. Looking forward to it.cainetao11

[QUOTE="hensothor"]I don't see the difference. Joedgabe

In first gameplay things were besically designed to be cut at will in the angle you want and could be used more strategically. The new gameplay shows it's a combo meter game basically that at the end you'll do a finishing move that he'll just chop the enemies into millions of pieces.

Gamers just like to praise Platinumgames. Some haven't even played a game by them. It's cool to love Platinumgames. Kojima Productions' MGSR was miles better. Even the combat animations were 10 times better. The graphics were a ton better as well. Platinum games comes in and lowers the resolution, makes it all fuzzy and filled with jaggies, simplified the combat and combat animations, and gave the game horrendous camera view control. The camera doesn't even adjust when Raiden comes closer to the screen. And this game is suppose to come out in 2012? I'm not bashing PG because it is an action game. MGSR was suppose to be an action game developed by Kojima Pro. It's just that PG made the game worse in every way.

Thanks TC for putting it out there. Just look at those gifs and you can EASILY tell the difference. If you can't, then you guys are in denial. It's cool to love PlatinumGames when all they made were Bayonetta and Vanquish. Not only that, but they don't even know how to release a proper game with someone else's game that has been beloved by fan. Well, at least the franchise. At least make it proper and pay tribute to the MGS fans as well.

Will MGSRR suck? Probably not.. but when compared to Kojima Pro's version.. it does. Just sayin'.

That Trailer is the most Japanese thing I have ever seen....

But I was willing to forgive that until the dude threw a Metal Gear ..... that was crossing the line,even for a Super japanese game

That Trailer is the most Japanese thing I have ever seen....

But I was willing to forgive that until the dude threw a Metal Gear ..... that was crossing the line,even for a Super japanese game

Zaibach

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That Trailer is the most Japanese thing I have ever seen....

But I was willing to forgive that until the dude threw a Metal Gear ..... that was crossing the line,even for a Super japanese game

TheRealistyk

Lol this comment is so true:

"You know what have been a lot easier than holding an entire ship back? Pick snake up and move him out of the way...but hey whatever is more dramatic."

:lol:

Gamers just like to praise Platinumgames. Some haven't even played a game by them. It's cool to love Platinumgames. Kojima Productions' MGSR was miles better. Even the combat animations were 10 times better. The graphics were a ton better as well. Platinum games comes in and lowers the resolution, makes it all fuzzy and filled with jaggies, simplified the combat and combat animations, and gave the game horrendous camera view control. The camera doesn't even adjust when Raiden comes closer to the screen. And this game is suppose to come out in 2012? I'm not bashing PG because it is an action game. MGSR was suppose to be an action game developed by Kojima Pro. It's just that PG made the game worse in every way.

Thanks TC for putting it out there. Just look at those gifs and you can EASILY tell the difference. If you can't, then you guys are in denial. It's cool to love PlatinumGames when all they made were Bayonetta and Vanquish. Not only that, but they don't even know how to release a proper game with someone else's game that has been beloved by fan. Well, at least the franchise. At least make it proper and pay tribute to the MGS fans as well.

Will MGSRR suck? Probably not.. but when compared to Kojima Pro's version.. it does. Just sayin'.

Elann2008

]And gamers don't like to just praise Kojima Productions? I love Platinum games from experiencing two great games from them, Bayonetta, and VAnquish,which I think are the only two games I've played that are made by them, but right now they are batting 100% fun in my gaming dept.I didn't see anything in those videos that showed that the animations were 10 X better when Kojima was creating it? The combat animations and lower resolutions now due to Platinum games?? Where are you seeing this? So did Kojima just throw away his work, with all the jaggy free, un-choppy animation, and tell Platinum games to start from scratch? I doubt it. I bet they just took over where Kojima left off.godzillavskong

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"]]And gamers don't like to just praise Kojima Productions? I love Platinum games from experiencing two great games from them, Bayonetta, and VAnquish,which I think are the only two games I've played that are made by them, but right now they are batting 100% fun in my gaming dept.I didn't see anything in those videos that showed that the animations were 10 X better when Kojima was creating it? The combat animations and lower resolutions now due to Platinum games?? Where are you seeing this? So did Kojima just throw away his work, with all the jaggy free, un-choppy animation, and tell Platinum games to start from scratch? I doubt it. I bet they just took over where Kojima left off.ActionRemix

Documentary said they switched engines for the sake of Platinum Games being able to work with familiar tools in order to make the best product possible. Or something like that.

The slice mechanic is still there, I don't know about the physics though. Honestly I couldn't tell the two engines apart at first glance, I'm not a huge graphics guy.

Documentary said they switched engines for the sake of Platinum Games being able to work with familiar tools in order to make the best product possible. Or something like that.

The slice mechanic is still there, I don't know about the physics though. Honestly I couldn't tell the two engines apart at first glance, I'm not a huge graphics guy.

MLBknights58

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]Documentary said they switched engines for the sake of Platinum Games being able to work with familiar tools in order to make the best product possible. Or something like that.

The slice mechanic is still there, I don't know about the physics though. Honestly I couldn't tell the two engines apart at first glance, I'm not a huge graphics guy.

ActionRemix

Idk. We saw a 4 + minute demo demonstrating solely the cutting mechanic in 2010. We've seen only 1 to 2 minutes of total gameplay of 2011, with the slicing mechanic taking a backseat to the actual gameplay, the thing that the 2010 demo actually lacked. I have yet to give a verdict on which "version" of the cutting mechanic is better, because it looks the same to me honestly.

The 2010 version it was the focus, in 2011 it is only part of the overall experience. I still say we wait on more footage of 2011 before giving final verdicts.

I figured it was going to be a hacknslash from the first gameplay footage alone. Why are you so surprised?

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"]]And gamers don't like to just praise Kojima Productions? I love Platinum games from experiencing two great games from them, Bayonetta, and VAnquish,which I think are the only two games I've played that are made by them, but right now they are batting 100% fun in my gaming dept.I didn't see anything in those videos that showed that the animations were 10 X better when Kojima was creating it? The combat animations and lower resolutions now due to Platinum games?? Where are you seeing this? So did Kojima just throw away his work, with all the jaggy free, un-choppy animation, and tell Platinum games to start from scratch? I doubt it. I bet they just took over where Kojima left off.ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]Documentary said they switched engines for the sake of Platinum Games being able to work with familiar tools in order to make the best product possible. Or something like that.

The slice mechanic is still there, I don't know about the physics though. Honestly I couldn't tell the two engines apart at first glance, I'm not a huge graphics guy.

MLBknights58

Idk. We saw a 4 + minute demo demonstrating solely the cutting mechanic in 2010. We've seen only 1 to 2 minutes of total gameplay of 2011, with the slicing mechanic taking a backseat to the actual gameplay, the thing that the 2010 demo actually lacked. I have yet to give a verdict on which "version" of the cutting mechanic is better, because it looks the same to me honestly.

The 2010 version it was the focus, in 2011 it is only part of the overall experience. I still say we wait on more footage of 2011 before giving final verdicts.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]]And gamers don't like to just praise Kojima Productions? I love Platinum games from experiencing two great games from them, Bayonetta, and VAnquish,which I think are the only two games I've played that are made by them, but right now they are batting 100% fun in my gaming dept.I didn't see anything in those videos that showed that the animations were 10 X better when Kojima was creating it? The combat animations and lower resolutions now due to Platinum games?? Where are you seeing this? So did Kojima just throw away his work, with all the jaggy free, un-choppy animation, and tell Platinum games to start from scratch? I doubt it. I bet they just took over where Kojima left off.godzillavskong

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

That Trailer is the most Japanese thing I have ever seen....

But I was willing to forgive that until the dude threw a Metal Gear ..... that was crossing the line,even for a Super japanese game

TheRealistyk

*literally 10 seconds later*

"oh noes snake will be run over by a battleship! (because just shooting him is too hard) i better hold the entire battleship by myself, using the arm that i have left!"

I like steath-action games. Kojima Productions makes great stealth-action games. Rising was a stealth action game by Kojima Productions (and on PC!). This was neither a stealth-action game, nor made by Kojima Productions. I think that's reason enough not to be interested anymore.

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]They're using Platinum Games' proprietary engine instead of the Fox engine. PG's engine can't handle the original slice mechanic or original animation assets apparently. Probably because the original game had procedural animation.ActionRemix