WTF happened to MGS Rising?

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

Eponique

Its obvious some had preconcieved notions of what this game was going to be. I never once thought it would be a stealth first game. Hence the former moniker,"lighting bolt action". But hey no game is for everyone. cainetao11

I liked what I saw. What's the problem? :|

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

finalfantasy94

So cause you dont like it he stoped caring? wow that logic is awesome. Im sorry but imo MGS4 was the second best MGS. With 1 bening number 1.

No.

I really dont expect you to see what is so obvious. You're the same guy that doesn't understand whats wrong with button mashing gameplay in an action title, or why people find the writing bad in games like FFXIII/XIII-2 trailers (by your own admission). When things take a turn for mediocre all you see is amazing. Its as if you constantly have your bar goggles on lol.

If you don't clearly see the lack of care Kojima has for the MGS brand these days it is only your own fault and I honestly envy your ability to keep enjoying what has ultimately become crap. Hell, the man has constantly been saying that he wanted to be done with it after MGS2. He goes out of his way to let us know he is tired of MGS. Time and time again he tries to hand off MGS to other people. If he really cared for making MGS games he wouldn't be telling us "this is the last one I'm making, I'm serious!" every damn time.

I could site multiple grounded examples as to the lack of care in the MGS brand in recent years, but even when I state clear negatives you will only view them as positives.

They made it into a fun looking game that I look forward to buying.

You want freedom of swordplay play SS :P

Metal Gear Rising sounds better, which is what it's called. no Solid.

other than that, "revengence" is not going to make people think "oh badass". and Raiden is a completely different character from both 2 and 4.

it clearly takes place in a universe even more over the top than MGS. this belongs with the likes of Ninja Blade. he ****ing throws a metal gear into the air and cuts it in half. what is the point of making him Raiden?

Looks incredibly bad.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

ActionRemix

I liked what I saw. What's the problem? :|

Solid_Link22

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

sandbox3d

So cause you dont like it he stoped caring? wow that logic is awesome. Im sorry but imo MGS4 was the second best MGS. With 1 bening number 1.

No.

I really dont expect you to see what is so obvious. You're the same guy that doesn't understand whats wrong with button mashing gameplay in an action title, or why people find the writing bad in games like FFXIII/XIII-2 trailers (by your own admission). When things take a turn for mediocre all you see is amazing. Its as if you constantly have your bar goggles on lol.

If you don't clearly see the lack of care Kojima has for the MGS brand these days it is only your own fault and I honestly envy your ability to keep enjoying what has ultimately become crap. Hell, the man has constantly been saying that he wanted to be done with it after MGS2. He goes out of his way to let us know he is tired of MGS. Time and time again he tries to hand off MGS to other people. If he really cared for making MGS games he wouldn't be telling us "this is the last one I'm making, I'm serious!" every damn time.

I could site multiple grounded examples as to the lack of care in the MGS brand in recent years, but even when I state clear negatives you will only view them as positives.

People like you anoy me. People who think they are above others. people who think they know better. People who think thier opinoin is fact and nothing more. Thats you in a nutshell from this post. You need to grow up and learn people have opinoins and just cause it doest match yours it doesint make you any better. Im not trying to force my opinion on you but its clear your trying to do so to others.

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

I liked what I saw. What's the problem? :|

jman1553

that's dependent on how the game was balanced. the number of enemies, the terrain, the amount of damage bullets do to you etc, all would have complemented the player's killing ability.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

DarkLink77

"Everything from MGS4 on has been him intentionally pissong all of the franchice..."

Laughable quote of the day. :lol:

Original trailer was probably PC

Original trailer was probably PC

Peredith

Platinium happend. :lol:

look at this crap.

TheGuardian03

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Eponique"] True words. I'm glad it wasn't just another shooter :)Eponique

I saw the new trailer ......

Platinium happend. :lol:

look at this crap.

TheGuardian03

... That looks **** awesome bro.

Game looked horrible back then, but I had hope because Kojima was behind it, however the game looks even worse now. Like what the hell are they thinking? I can almost garentee this game either flops hard or is never finishes development.

mexicangordo

I don't play Metal Gear, but that game doesn't look Metal Gear-ish

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

So cause you dont like it he stoped caring? wow that logic is awesome. Im sorry but imo MGS4 was the second best MGS. With 1 bening number 1.

finalfantasy94

No.

I really dont expect you to see what is so obvious. You're the same guy that doesn't understand whats wrong with button mashing gameplay in an action title, or why people find the writing bad in games like FFXIII/XIII-2 trailers (by your own admission). When things take a turn for mediocre all you see is amazing. Its as if you constantly have your bar goggles on lol.

If you don't clearly see the lack of care Kojima has for the MGS brand these days it is only your own fault and I honestly envy your ability to keep enjoying what has ultimately become crap. Hell, the man has constantly been saying that he wanted to be done with it after MGS2. He goes out of his way to let us know he is tired of MGS. Time and time again he tries to hand off MGS to other people. If he really cared for making MGS games he wouldn't be telling us "this is the last one I'm making, I'm serious!" every damn time.

I could site multiple grounded examples as to the lack of care in the MGS brand in recent years, but even when I state clear negatives you will only view them as positives.

People like you anoy me. People who think they are above others. people who think they know better. People who think thier opinoin is fact and nothing more. Thats you in a nutshell from this post. You need to grow up and learn people have opinoins and just cause it doest match yours it doesint make you any better. Im not trying to force my opinion on you but its clear your trying to do so to others.

People like you annoy me. People who can not see what is right in front of them if their lives depended on it. People who gobble down every bit of crap the industry gives them and demand seconds. People who cant even have a discussion, but instead become butt-hurt and make posts like the one you just made.

I mean seriously, what do you think of the fact that Kojima is trying to escape this series? You just ignore that and get "annoyed" by me instead? BE ANNOYED AT KOJIMA, not me.

I never said my opinion makes me above anyone, or better than anyone at all. People like what they like. There is no one person on this board that will agree with all the opinions of another.

How am I forcing my opinion on others and you are not? I just posted an opinion not directed at anyone specific. YOU chose to respond to me and left a bull headed, ill supported opinion yourself so quit acting like a victim.

The difference between you and me? I can usually support my claims. You can not support your own. But somehow by your logic that makes me some sort of aggressor?

It is you that needs to grow up son. And hopefully you will aquire a bit of what we call good taste along the way.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]

Platinium happend. :lol:

look at this crap.

MLBknights58

... That looks **** awesome bro.

Agreed, that looks badass

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

No.

I really dont expect you to see what is so obvious. You're the same guy that doesn't understand whats wrong with button mashing gameplay in an action title, or why people find the writing bad in games like FFXIII/XIII-2 trailers (by your own admission). When things take a turn for mediocre all you see is amazing. Its as if you constantly have your bar goggles on lol.

If you don't clearly see the lack of care Kojima has for the MGS brand these days it is only your own fault and I honestly envy your ability to keep enjoying what has ultimately become crap. Hell, the man has constantly been saying that he wanted to be done with it after MGS2. He goes out of his way to let us know he is tired of MGS. Time and time again he tries to hand off MGS to other people. If he really cared for making MGS games he wouldn't be telling us "this is the last one I'm making, I'm serious!" every damn time.

I could site multiple grounded examples as to the lack of care in the MGS brand in recent years, but even when I state clear negatives you will only view them as positives.

sandbox3d

People like you anoy me. People who think they are above others. people who think they know better. People who think thier opinoin is fact and nothing more. Thats you in a nutshell from this post. You need to grow up and learn people have opinoins and just cause it doest match yours it doesint make you any better. Im not trying to force my opinion on you but its clear your trying to do so to others.

People like you annoy me. People who can not see what is right in front of them if their lives depended on it. People who gobble down every bit of crap the industry gives them and demand seconds. People who cant even have a discussion, but instead become butt-hurt and make posts like the one you just made.

I mean seriously, what do you think of the fact that Kojima is trying to escape this series? You just ignore that and get "annoyed" by me instead? BE ANNOYED AT KOJIMA, not me.

I never said my opinion makes me above anyone, or better than anyone at all. People like what they like. There is no one person on this board that will agree with all the opinions of another.

How am I forcing my opinion on others and you are not? I just posted an opinion not directed at anyone specific. YOU chose to respond to me and left a bull headed, ill supported opinion yourself so quit acting like a victim.

The difference between you and me? I can usually support my claims. You can not support your own. But somehow by your logic that makes me some sort of aggressor?

It is you that needs to grow up son. And hopefully you will aquire a bit of what we call good taste along the way.

You're the same guy that doesn't understand whats wrong with button mashing gameplay in an action title, or why people find the writing bad in games like FFXIII/XIII-2 trailers (by your own admission). When things take a turn for mediocre all you see is amazing. Its as if you constantly have your bar goggles on lol.

Yup wasint pointed at me at all. That didint come off as you thinking your taste is better at all or that you know better.Even though in the end its just opinion. You targeted me first buddy boy. Again Im not the one who needs growing up here. Also putting me down and saying LOL doesint equel a discussion.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]Game looked horrible back then, but I had hope because Kojima was behind it, however the game looks even worse now. Like what the hell are they thinking? I can almost garentee this game either flops hard or is never finishes development.

Eponique

MGS games are pretty uncommon. and it's not like their designed to be replacable. easter eggs, different tactics, I could write pages about the little details those games had. they had a lot of shooting action, but most of it was up to you, and played out how you wanted it. even MGS4 was leagues deeper than action shooters like uncharted or Gears.

now this game may have something going for it, I don't know. but it looks like standard hack and slash mechanics where the sword doesn't act like a sword until you whittle down their hit points.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]

Platinium happend. :lol:

look at this crap.

Solid_Link22

... That looks **** awesome bro.

Agreed, that looks badass

idk man......The animations are very.....unfluid :lol:

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

People like you anoy me. People who think they are above others. people who think they know better. People who think thier opinoin is fact and nothing more. Thats you in a nutshell from this post. You need to grow up and learn people have opinoins and just cause it doest match yours it doesint make you any better. Im not trying to force my opinion on you but its clear your trying to do so to others.

finalfantasy94

People like you annoy me. People who can not see what is right in front of them if their lives depended on it. People who gobble down every bit of crap the industry gives them and demand seconds. People who cant even have a discussion, but instead become butt-hurt and make posts like the one you just made.

I mean seriously, what do you think of the fact that Kojima is trying to escape this series? You just ignore that and get "annoyed" by me instead? BE ANNOYED AT KOJIMA, not me.

I never said my opinion makes me above anyone, or better than anyone at all. People like what they like. There is no one person on this board that will agree with all the opinions of another.

How am I forcing my opinion on others and you are not? I just posted an opinion not directed at anyone specific. YOU chose to respond to me and left a bull headed, ill supported opinion yourself so quit acting like a victim.

The difference between you and me? I can usually support my claims. You can not support your own. But somehow by your logic that makes me some sort of aggressor?

It is you that needs to grow up son. And hopefully you will aquire a bit of what we call good taste along the way.

You're the same guy that doesn't understand whats wrong with button mashing gameplay in an action title, or why people find the writing bad in games like FFXIII/XIII-2 trailers (by your own admission). When things take a turn for mediocre all you see is amazing. Its as if you constantly have your bar goggles on lol.

Yup wasint pointed at me at all. That didint come off as you thinking your taste is better at all or that you know better.Even though in the end its just opinion. You targeted me first buddy boy. Again Im not the one who needs growing up here.

Of course it was directed at you :lol:

My initial post was directed at no one AND YOU RESPONDED TO ME. That is what I meant. Reading comprehension FTL? Please take just one second to look about 10-20 posts back and look at who quoted who first. Wow.

If being grown up means having the comprehension skills of a 5 year old and the memory of a gold fish then I'd rather not. :lol:

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

... That looks **** awesome bro.

eboyishere

Agreed, that looks badass

idk man......The animations are very.....unfluid :lol:

You think they would have been better with the old control? :?

Cuz Lol no.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

Agreed, that looks badass

MLBknights58

idk man......The animations are very.....unfluid :lol:

You think they would have been better with the old control? :?

Cuz Lol no.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]

Agreed, that looks badass

MLBknights58

idk man......The animations are very.....unfluid :lol:

You think they would have been better with the old control? :?

Cuz Lol no.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

idk man......The animations are very.....unfluid :lol:

ActionRemix

You think they would have been better with the old control? :?

Cuz Lol no.

Yeah, I did. I thought it was "cool". But do you really think that slowing down time and screwin with that little "choose where you slash" mechanic would flow better than what it is now? Not in my opinion, no.

As for slicing the pillars, well that has yet to be seen doesn't it? I mean all we really saw was some redonkulous action scenes and some bad acting. There is probably more to the game than what we saw. I doubt there will be stealth, but enviromental interactivity, possibly.If there isn't, well I don't care because I'm sold already.

In my eyes, they took what they showed last year and gave it 3 adrenaline shots, which makes it somewhat interesting now. The whole melon slashing nonsense, yeah if I want motion controlled/precision swordplay I'll stick to Zelda. And it works so well in Zelda because (well this is just a guess) because the action is a little less frantic and fast paced than what the devs wanted Rising to be.

But yes I did watch the original trailers, and I think this looks much better.

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

idk man......The animations are very.....unfluid :lol:

carljohnson3456

You think they would have been better with the old control? :?

Cuz Lol no.

The previous Rising didn't look very MGS either, don't fool yourself besides it looked clunky and slow, now it looks at least fast peaced, the plot however, still a big meh.

God dammit what a fu**ing disappointment. One of my highly anticipated games of 2012, ruined....Wtf kojima....

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

You think they would have been better with the old control? :?

Cuz Lol no.

madsnakehhh

The previous Rising didn't look very MGS either, don't fool yourself besides it looked clunky and slow, now it looks at least fast peaced, the plot however, still a big meh.

It did actually. The animations matched MGS4's perfectly, along with the atmosphere of the game.

It did actually. The animations matched MGS4's perfectly, along with the atmosphere of the game.

el3m2tigre

Maybe the animations (which again, they looked clunky for an action game like Rising)...the atmosphere, which atmosphere, we never get to see much of it anyway, it was just a Ninja figthing soldiers.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

It did actually. The animations matched MGS4's perfectly, along with the atmosphere of the game.

madsnakehhh

Maybe the animations (which again, they looked clunky for an action game like Rising)...the atmosphere, which atmosphere, we never get to see much of it anyway, it was just a Ninja figthing soldiers.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

It did actually. The animations matched MGS4's perfectly, along with the atmosphere of the game.

ActionRemix

Maybe the animations (which again, they looked clunky for an action game like Rising)...the atmosphere, which atmosphere, we never get to see much of it anyway, it was just a Ninja figthing soldiers.

What is cool about this one is that it might ended up being fun.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Maybe the animations (which again, they looked clunky for an action game like Rising)...the atmosphere, which atmosphere, we never get to see much of it anyway, it was just a Ninja figthing soldiers.

madsnakehhh

What is cool about this one is that it might ended up being fun.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Maybe the animations (which again, they looked clunky for an action game like Rising)...the atmosphere, which atmosphere, we never get to see much of it anyway, it was just a Ninja figthing soldiers.

madsnakehhh

What is cool about this one is that it might ended up being fun.

Possibly, but a lot of people were looking forward to what they showed us in 2010.

all it did was reinforce my belief to avoid anything to do with this game

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]What was cool about that game is how you could cut any object in any direction. Now it's Raiden May Cry with QTE segments.ActionRemix

What is cool about this one is that it might ended up being fun.

YES!!! Because clearly, this totally looks like CoD :lol:

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]What was cool about that game is how you could cut any object in any direction. Now it's Raiden May Cry with QTE segments.el3m2tigre

What is cool about this one is that it might ended up being fun.

Possibly, but a lot of people were looking forward to what they showed us in 2010.

And i am kind of interested on this one...something that TC for some weird doesn't like, hence my defensive responses.