WTF happened to MGS Rising?

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Also, there was never supposed to be a stealth aspect. It's always been a hack n' slash game.

sandbox3d

Not according to the original director.

I'm sure they would have liked to include stealth in some way since it has MGS in the name. However, considering the original demos showed no stealth and the game was canceld due to lack of gameplay ideas, I'm gonna say stealth was never a realistic option.

Eh, I don't feel like bumping the other thread, so here's a summary of the recent KojiPro podcast:

• Kamiya isn't directing, more info coming soon
• Rising was cancelled due to lacking gameplay - apparently they had the cutting mechanics and nothing else
• Story was changed to take place years after MGS4 to give Platinum more freedom
• Enemies are all cyborgs

is the translation.

Slashkice

That makes sense. Whats the point of of having something but you feel like you cant do much with it.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What happened to MGS Rising?

Easy, it finally got interesting.

BigBoss255

What does it go against excatly? Rising is a spinoff to the main series, which means it does not have to follow the same rules as the main MGS games. How do you know its going to be a bad game without playing it? You sound like the people that bash every new Zelda and Sonic game that gets announced based on a single trailer.

It can't go against the spirit of the MGS franchise if it was never intended to be like the other MGS games. Its a spinoff game, which means the developers are free to do things they could never do in the core Metal Gear games. Maybe Kojima decided that the gameplay of the 2010 trailer was too limited and wanted to go in a new direction. Maybe he was happy with how the game was turning out?

Calling a game trash over a single trailer is foolish at this point. And once again, it can't go against everything MGS stands for if the game was never intended to be a normal MGS game in the first place. If you look at it from that perspective, then Rising in its previous forms also went against the spirit of MGS as well.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Eh, I don't feel like bumping the other thread, so here's a summary of the recent KojiPro podcast:

• Kamiya isn't directing, more info coming soon
• Rising was cancelled due to lacking gameplay - apparently they had the cutting mechanics and nothing else
• Story was changed to take place years after MGS4 to give Platinum more freedom
• Enemies are all cyborgs

is the translation.

finalfantasy94

That makes sense. Whats the point of of having something but you feel like you cant do much with it.

That third point sounds like the worst thing ever. It just poops all over the ending of MGS4 where everything was wrapped up and Raiden was normal, and it also destroys the chance to explore what happened in the interim between MGS2 and 4.

Honestly, I was excited for the game with the promise of the cutting mechanics, some exploration of what occurred before MGS4, and the promise of it still having stealth.

Now its just some hack n slasher with all cyborg enemies and a story that just unnecessarily drags the MGS tale further down and making the ending seem meaningless.

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Peredith

i think this might be the most epic fail in gaming history. kojima can kiss my ass.

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]People like you are why developers stopped bothering to make good games.caryslan2

What does it go against excatly? Rising is a spinoff to the main series, which means it does not have to follow the same rules as the main MGS games. How do you know its going to be a bad game without playing it? You sound like the people that bash every new Zelda and Sonic game that gets announced based on a single trailer.

It can't go against the spirit of the MGS franchise if it was never intended to be like the other MGS games. Its a spinoff game, which means the developers are free to do things they could never do in the core Metal Gear games. Maybe Kojima decided that the gameplay of the 2010 trailer was too limited and wanted to go in a new direction. Maybe he was happy with how the game was turning out?

Calling a game trash over a single trailer is foolish at this point. And once again, it can't go against everything MGS stands for if the game was never intended to be a normal MGS game in the first place. If you look at it from that perspective, then Rising in its previous forms also went against the spirit of MGS as well.

Man, I hate this game now. I loved the concept of MGS4, but with accurate sword motions and acrobatics, with the same freedom as before, plus guns and stuff and an explanation on what occurred before, then this happened and these guys pooped all over my hopes for the game.

It went from bad to worse.

I will admit that i'm a little confused at the direction of the game which leads me to ask wether I have the desire to own it... The trailer showed me a ninja gaidenesque cinematic hack and slash which will undoubtadly continue the MGS pedegree of absolutly ridiculous story... that said, I never rule any game out.

I liked it. I mean we hadn't really seen enough of it before to make a judgement, looks like slicing is still in the game, why so upset bro?SaltyMeatballs

I still say it looks like Ninja Gaiden.AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I still say it looks like Ninja Gaiden.TheEroica

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

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taterfrickintot

i think this might be the most epic fail in gaming history. kojima can kiss my ass.

sure cutting the eneimes down in one slice is flashy and awesome....but do you know how easy of a game that would be? there would be zero challenge

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Peredith

Well Damn!!! Went you put it like that, the game does look bad.. :?

Goddamnit...how did Kojima NOT come up with ways to make a full game out of it?
Now it's a hack & slash with some cutting gimmicks...

The revamped game looks good to be honest but it's isn't what I was waiting out for...

as a hack n slash it looks good but as a metal gear solid game it suks

Still looks ok for a hack and slash.

Japanese developers and direction happened to it.

I don't think I'll buy it... It looks too much like Bayonetta, which was a horrible game.

I'm curious though. Was that Vamp ???

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Yep, several years after.

15strong

They basically went with a completely different direction than what we saw at E3. Changing the time period is a bummer as we now have someone else messing with the MGS universe without any boundries. They can what they want and by the looks of it, I'm not feeling it.

why are people acting as if they didn't know MGR was going to be a hack and slash from the beginning?BrunoBRS

Exactly. I never expected the game to be MGS, proper.

why are people acting as if they didn't know MGR was going to be a hack and slash from the beginning?BrunoBRS

Well Platinum Games did good with Vanquish so hopefully it is good, though I wasn't happy with the trailer.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]why are people acting as if they didn't know MGR was going to be a hack and slash from the beginning?cainetao11

Anything they do to that over-rated crap MGS4 would be an improvement. This game is already better by default.

The original point was hunter stealth. You would stalk your enemies and kill them. It wouldn't be easy mode if the enemies were strong enough to kill you if they saw you like in the early parts of MGS games.ActionRemix

Platinum are the devs the game will be great.

spookykid143

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]The original point was hunter stealth. You would stalk your enemies and kill them. It wouldn't be easy mode if the enemies were strong enough to kill you if they saw you like in the early parts of MGS games.BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]The original point was hunter stealth. You would stalk your enemies and kill them. It wouldn't be easy mode if the enemies were strong enough to kill you if they saw you like in the early parts of MGS games.ActionRemix

Hideo Kojima isn't participating in the project, what did you expect?

the swordplay looks the same. lots of spinning and slicing. only now the "slice the way you want" part looks better executed and less clunkyBrunoBRS

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

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taterfrickintot

i think this might be the most epic fail in gaming history. kojima can kiss my ass.

Jesus look how terrible the last 2 GIF's look.... The original project creams all over the new one.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]the swordplay looks the same. lots of spinning and slicing. only now the "slice the way you want" part looks better executed and less clunkyActionRemix

I don't think I'll buy it... It looks too much like Bayonetta, which was a horrible game.

I'm curious though. Was that Vamp ???

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

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i think this might be the most epic fail in gaming history. kojima can kiss my ass.

Jesus look how terrible the last 2 GIF's look.... The original project creams all over the new one.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Looks better than any Metal Gear announcement I've seen this gen. It's time the series stopped taking itself seriously. All the people complaining expected another game where the story was 80% and the gameplay was 20%. I'm glad to see some devs who know how to make an action game are in charge now.ActionRemix

Ah, i see the sig i why you weren't around for a while:P

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Looks better than any Metal Gear announcement I've seen this gen. It's time the series stopped taking itself seriously. All the people complaining expected another game where the story was 80% and the gameplay was 20%. I'm glad to see some devs who know how to make an action game are in charge now.ActionRemix

Platinum on twitter said its 1280 x 720 and 60 FPS.

I would agree that the old trailer where you slice everything in 1 hit is really cool and ive never played anything like that before, but this still looks awesome, and it has a great developer behind it.