Hideo Kojima isn't participating in the project, what did you expect?

Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

This would bother me, but honestly? MGS3 is the last time Kojima made MGS gold. Portable Ops was abysmal, MGS4 was just bad and PW is so-so. Its not like Kojima just recently started crapping on the franchise, this is just a side step in a different direction.

Who knows, maybe this game will actually be fun, but it is a disgrace to the series name. Kojima quit caring about any type of integrity the series had a long time ago. Its just becoming more obvious now.

DarkLink77

Agreed.^ Kojima did not "phone in" mgs4 or peace walker just because you didn't like them. Maybe he needs to be told it is your standards that he needs to live up to.cainetao11

Here's blog post my friend put in regards of the difference

Commentary: It's Official, Metal Gear Rising Is Not A Metal Gear Game

"That isn't all I thought, through my head went, "This looks just like an every day generic-third-person-action-game." See, when the game premiered at E3 last year, I remember seeing an amazing slice mechanic and a game that was shaping up to have some amazing gameplay."

...

"Platinum gamesdevelopedtwo action hits that he loves, Bayonetta and Vanquish. I may be the minority voice, but I played both of those games and didn't like either. What I didn't like about Bayonetta was thefightingand gameplay. The cutscenes were entertaining but after a while, I just wanted to finish it and be done with it. "

http://www.lazytechguys.com/commentary/commentary-its-official-metal-gear-rising-is-not-a-metal-gear-game/

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Agreed.^ Kojima did not "phone in" mgs4 or peace walker just because you didn't like them. Maybe he needs to be told it is your standards that he needs to live up to.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="cainetao11"]Agreed.^ Kojima did not "phone in" mgs4 or peace walker just because you didn't like them. Maybe he needs to be told it is your standards that he needs to live up to.Am_Confucius

Platinum on twitter said its 1280 x 720 and 60 FPS.

I would agree that the old trailer where you slice everything in 1 hit is really cool and ive never played anything like that before, but this still looks awesome, and it has a great developer behind it.

crimsonman1245

The new game looks like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden and Metal Gear Solid had a baby. It doesn't look bad, but it does look worse.DarkLink77

That looks incredibly slow and boring. You do not know what you want.Eponique

Looks like the only real difference is the fact it now appears to be using the Vanquish Engine rather than the MGS4 engine, which makes sense seeing as how it's supposed to be a faster paced game. Yea they didn't show destructable enviroments, but that doesn't mean it's been removed. Even if it has been is it really that much of an issue? The fact it's being developed by Platinum can only be a good thing IMO. Look at Vanquish and Bayonetta, this is exactly the kind of game Rising was being made to be from the off. Anyone who thought different was kidding themselves. If anyone can pull this off properly it's Platinum.Narcadox

[QUOTE="Eponique"]That looks incredibly slow and boring. You do not know what you want.ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Eponique"]That looks incredibly slow and boring. You do not know what you want.BrunoBRS

There's no point in arguing when the other side won't acknowledge the possibility that you might be correct.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I f-cking hate brawlers. MGS Rising 2010 looked like something that no game has ever done before. How you can't appreciate the game mechanic that lets you cut anything in any way with that fluidity is beyond me. ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Eponique"]That looks incredibly slow and boring. You do not know what you want.BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="Eponique"]That looks incredibly slow and boring. You do not know what you want.BrunoBRS

so what the heck is that metal gear made out of if raiden tosses it like a ragdoll, flies up it's body, and cuts it in half?

[QUOTE="Eponique"]That looks incredibly slow and boring. You do not know what you want.ActionRemix

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]The new game looks like Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden and Metal Gear Solid had a baby. It doesn't look bad, but it does look worse.ActionRemix

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I f-cking hate brawlers. MGS Rising 2010 looked like something that no game has ever done before. How you can't appreciate the game mechanic that lets you cut anything in any way with that fluidity is beyond me. el3m2tigre

I came here to say this:

Grey Fox > Raiden

P.S. - MGR looks terrible.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]There's no point in arguing when the other side won't acknowledge the possibility that you might be correct.Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] it makes everything look made out of jell-o. and enemies all died with a single hit. why would you want the slow-mo slice when the regular one is just as effective. at least now it works more like a finishing move. and the old slicing is still there, but no one made a gif of it. watch the trailer again.BrunoBRS

the enemies could all follow the same slice pattern, covered up with clouds of gore. it's not unreasonable to think they'd go back to preset animations to make 60fps possible.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I f-cking hate brawlers. MGS Rising 2010 looked like something that no game has ever done before. How you can't appreciate the game mechanic that lets you cut anything in any way with that fluidity is beyond me. Mordred19

so what the heck is that metal gear made out of if raiden tosses it like a ragdoll, flies up it's body, and cuts it in half?

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] it makes everything look made out of jell-o. and enemies all died with a single hit. why would you want the slow-mo slice when the regular one is just as effective. at least now it works more like a finishing move. and the old slicing is still there, but no one made a gif of it. watch the trailer again.BrunoBRS

You're right, there is a small part of the video where it looks like you can, but the slashes has way too many effects, and without the physics that the last project had, it just looks unimpressive and unsatisfyng.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]The new slicing looks really bad in comparison. So cheezy. Most enemies died with just a few bullets in MGS, but you had to kill them with stealth. I wanted that. If they turned MGS into a "fun" and "fast-paced" game like COD I'd be just as upset.Mordred19

the enemies could all follow the same slice pattern, covered up with clouds of gore. it's not unreasonable to think they'd go back to preset animations to make 60fps possible.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"] It isn't actually. The only thing there is the slow-mo. They took out the slicing precision. Now it's just a button masher.

el3m2tigre

You're right, there is a small part of the video where it looks like you can, but the slashes has way too many effects, and without the physics that the last project had, it just looks unimpressive and unsatisfing.

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Agreed.^ Kojima did not "phone in" mgs4 or peace walker just because you didn't like them. Maybe he needs to be told it is your standards that he needs to live up to.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] ... you really ignored all the trailers and announcements for this game, didn't you? it was an action game from the very beginning. it was never, ever supposed to play anything even remotely similar to metal gear solid. f*ck, the game's subtitle (tactical espionage action) was dropped in favor of another (lightning fast action). and you thought it would be stealthy and methodical? the problem here isn't the game, it's you expecting something the game was never set to be. and the slice is the very f*cking same, only you don't get a giant blue line as you try to tilt the angle of the sword.BrunoBRS

the enemies could all follow the same slice pattern, covered up with clouds of gore. it's not unreasonable to think they'd go back to preset animations to make 60fps possible.

I'm not trying to prove you wrong. it shows that complete uncritical support and faith isn't justified either.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] watch the trailer again. you still choose the direction of the slash, you just don't get a blue line.BrunoBRS

You're right, there is a small part of the video where it looks like you can, but the slashes has way too many effects, and without the physics that the last project had, it just looks unimpressive and unsatisfing.

To each their own, i suppose. I was just really looking forward to what they showed us in 2010.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] it makes everything look made out of jell-o. and enemies all died with a single hit. why would you want the slow-mo slice when the regular one is just as effective. at least now it works more like a finishing move. and the old slicing is still there, but no one made a gif of it. watch the trailer again.BrunoBRS

so what the heck is that metal gear made out of if raiden tosses it like a ragdoll, flies up it's body, and cuts it in half?

I adressed that earlier. there are countless ways to maintain challenge if you can kill enemies in one slice. we both know that numbers can be tweaked and variables can be added so it's not like running around in god mode on dynasty warriors.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

the enemies could all follow the same slice pattern, covered up with clouds of gore. it's not unreasonable to think they'd go back to preset animations to make 60fps possible.

Mordred19

I'm not trying to prove you wrong. it shows that complete uncritical support and faith isn't justified either.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

so what the heck is that metal gear made out of if raiden tosses it like a ragdoll, flies up it's body, and cuts it in half?

Mordred19

I adressed that earlier. there are countless ways to maintain challenge if you can kill enemies in one slice. we both know that numbers can be tweaked and variables can be added so it's not like running around in god mode on dynasty warriors.