WTF happened to MGS Rising?

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] keep in mind this is still a videogame. slicing like jell-o as a finishing move adds styIe and makes it really look like you took the enemy down for good. slicing like jell-o as your very first attack makes for a complete lack of challenge because everything you touch dies in a split-second.BrunoBRS

I adressed that earlier. there are countless ways to maintain challenge if you can kill enemies in one slice. we both know that numbers can be tweaked and variables can be added so it's not like running around in god mode on dynasty warriors.

what game is first revealed and shows the player having a hard time winning? that's not what a reveal is for, no reveal is. it's to show off, that doesn't mean challenge isn't there in the final product.

[QUOTE="Narcadox"]Looks like the only real difference is the fact it now appears to be using the Vanquish Engine rather than the MGS4 engine, which makes sense seeing as how it's supposed to be a faster paced game. Yea they didn't show destructable enviroments, but that doesn't mean it's been removed. Even if it has been is it really that much of an issue? The fact it's being developed by Platinum can only be a good thing IMO. Look at Vanquish and Bayonetta, this is exactly the kind of game Rising was being made to be from the off. Anyone who thought different was kidding themselves. If anyone can pull this off properly it's Platinum.BrunoBRS

No it's just someone who's equally as ignorant as you. I've followed Rising closely over the last two years and it looks like ActionRemix did as well. I can't blame you for not knowing anything about the original product but it's annoying when you're posting here acting like you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4o0NRG5hI

When Rising was first announced Kojima said it was a stealth game.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/261004/mgs-rising-no-kill-completion-is-possible/

No kill possible = stealth game

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.228345-Metal-Gear-Solid-Rising-Still-Has-Plenty-of-Stealth

Hunter stealth is what they called it, like Batman. Yes it's a different kind of stealth than what MGS usually has but since when does hunter stealth=no stealth?.

If you need an example of what they meant by hunter stealth watch the beginning of the E3 2010 trailer.

Taken from MG Rising site : The original aim for a combination of stealth and action has also been enhanced, for a more aggressive new focus on pure, exhilarating action.

The other major differnce is that MGS Rising was canon, it was going to show how Raiden became who he was in MGS4. This game has been confirmed today as not canon.

That aside, the swordplay looks so much worse. Two Worlds has more responsive enemies and animations than that. It looks like a bad game and an even worse Metal Gear game.

So they made it 60 fps ? that's why it looks like s***johny300

No it's just someone who's equally as ignorant as you. I've followed Rising closely over the last two years and it looks like ActionRemix did as well. I can't blame you for not knowing anything about the original product but it's annoying when you're posting here acting like you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4o0NRG5hI

When Rising was first announced Kojima said it was a stealth game.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/261004/mgs-rising-no-kill-completion-is-possible/

No kill possible = stealth game

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.228345-Metal-Gear-Solid-Rising-Still-Has-Plenty-of-Stealth

Hunter stealth is what they called it, like Batman. Yes it's a different kind of stealth than what MGS usually has but since when does hunter stealth=no stealth?.

If you need an example of what they meant by hunter stealth watch the beginning of the E3 2010 trailer.

Taken from MG Rising site : The original aim for a combination of stealth and action has also been enhanced, for a more aggressive new focus on pure, exhilarating action.

The other major differnce is that MGS Rising was canon, it was going to show how Raiden became who he was in MGS4. This game has been confirmed today as not canon.

That aside, the swordplay looks so much worse. Two Worlds has more responsive enemies and animations than that. It looks like a bad game and an even worse Metal Gear game.

BigBoss255

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Here's the NEW slice mechanic: You've got to be f-cking kidding yourself if you think that's even comparable to the 2010 slicing: BrunoBRS

I will just point out that yes, the player could be choosing the angle to cut in the new version. but the gif does not show that. the red slash is after the attack.

So will there be any stealth ? when is kojima doing this interview ?johny300

I will just point out that yes, the player could be choosing the angle to cut in the new version. but the gif does not show that. the red slash is after the attack.

Mordred19

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Narcadox"]Looks like the only real difference is the fact it now appears to be using the Vanquish Engine rather than the MGS4 engine, which makes sense seeing as how it's supposed to be a faster paced game. Yea they didn't show destructable enviroments, but that doesn't mean it's been removed. Even if it has been is it really that much of an issue? The fact it's being developed by Platinum can only be a good thing IMO. Look at Vanquish and Bayonetta, this is exactly the kind of game Rising was being made to be from the off. Anyone who thought different was kidding themselves. If anyone can pull this off properly it's Platinum.BigBoss255

No it's just someone who's equally as ignorant as you. I've followed Rising closely over the last two years and it looks like ActionRemix did as well. I can't blame you for not knowing anything about the original product but it's annoying when you're posting here acting like you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4o0NRG5hI

When Rising was first announced Kojima said it was a stealth game.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/261004/mgs-rising-no-kill-completion-is-possible/

No kill possible = stealth game

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.228345-Metal-Gear-Solid-Rising-Still-Has-Plenty-of-Stealth

Hunter stealth is what they called it, like Batman. Yes it's a different kind of stealth than what MGS usually has but since when does hunter stealth=no stealth?.

If you need an example of what they meant by hunter stealth watch the beginning of the E3 2010 trailer.

Taken from MG Rising site : The original aim for a combination of stealth and action has also been enhanced, for a more aggressive new focus on pure, exhilarating action.

The other major differnce is that MGS Rising was canon, it was going to show how Raiden became who he was in MGS4. This game has been confirmed today as not canon.

That aside, the swordplay looks so much worse. Two Worlds has more responsive enemies and animations than that. It looks like a bad game and an even worse Metal Gear game.

Look at the last cut/hit in the new slicing it doesn't cut anything or did they skiped that ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^johny300

[QUOTE="johny300"]So they made it 60 fps ? that's why it looks like s***mitu123

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

No it's just someone who's equally as ignorant as you. I've followed Rising closely over the last two years and it looks like ActionRemix did as well. I can't blame you for not knowing anything about the original product but it's annoying when you're posting here acting like you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4o0NRG5hI

When Rising was first announced Kojima said it was a stealth game.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/261004/mgs-rising-no-kill-completion-is-possible/

No kill possible = stealth game

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.228345-Metal-Gear-Solid-Rising-Still-Has-Plenty-of-Stealth

Hunter stealth is what they called it, like Batman. Yes it's a different kind of stealth than what MGS usually has but since when does hunter stealth=no stealth?.

If you need an example of what they meant by hunter stealth watch the beginning of the E3 2010 trailer.

Taken from MG Rising site : The original aim for a combination of stealth and action has also been enhanced, for a more aggressive new focus on pure, exhilarating action.

The other major differnce is that MGS Rising was canon, it was going to show how Raiden became who he was in MGS4. This game has been confirmed today as not canon.

That aside, the swordplay looks so much worse. Two Worlds has more responsive enemies and animations than that. It looks like a bad game and an even worse Metal Gear game.

Eponique

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]So they made it 60 fps ? that's why it looks like s***johny300

I'm still going to say it.

Don't buy Capcom's DMC.

The REAL Game is from Konami! METAL GEAR RISING: REVENGENCE! :lol:

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

I adressed that earlier. there are countless ways to maintain challenge if you can kill enemies in one slice. we both know that numbers can be tweaked and variables can be added so it's not like running around in god mode on dynasty warriors.

Mordred19

what game is first revealed and shows the player having a hard time winning? that's not what a reveal is for, no reveal is. it's to show off, that doesn't mean challenge isn't there in the final product.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

No it's just someone who's equally as ignorant as you. I've followed Rising closely over the last two years and it looks like ActionRemix did as well. I can't blame you for not knowing anything about the original product but it's annoying when you're posting here acting like you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4o0NRG5hI

When Rising was first announced Kojima said it was a stealth game.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/261004/mgs-rising-no-kill-completion-is-possible/

No kill possible = stealth game

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.228345-Metal-Gear-Solid-Rising-Still-Has-Plenty-of-Stealth

Hunter stealth is what they called it, like Batman. Yes it's a different kind of stealth than what MGS usually has but since when does hunter stealth=no stealth?.

If you need an example of what they meant by hunter stealth watch the beginning of the E3 2010 trailer.

Taken from MG Rising site : The original aim for a combination of stealth and action has also been enhanced, for a more aggressive new focus on pure, exhilarating action.

The other major differnce is that MGS Rising was canon, it was going to show how Raiden became who he was in MGS4. This game has been confirmed today as not canon.

That aside, the swordplay looks so much worse. Two Worlds has more responsive enemies and animations than that. It looks like a bad game and an even worse Metal Gear game.

BigBoss255

For all we know this could be an old build game is still in development, we have to see more this isn't enough.johny300

Though there are plenty of facts to back up the idea that he didn't want to make MGS4. DarkLink77

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I'm not trying to "save" anyone, and my grip on reality is fine, bro. Just stating what I believe to be true. Kojima didn't care about any MGS game after MGS3.DarkLink77

hope you got more then that chair theory in which I already talked about.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Here's the NEW slice mechanic: You've got to be f-cking kidding yourself if you think that's even comparable to the 2010 slicing: BrunoBRS

yup its basicly the same I also like how the current version the slash is so strong it even effects the car. Pretty cool.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Kojima hasn't cared about the quality of the series since MGS3. He hates the MGS fanbase and it's blatantly obvious. Everything from MGS4 on has been him intentionally pissing all of the franchise so it will die, but people still eat that s*** up and ask for seconds.DarkLink77

its crap therefore its fact its crap. Opinion people.

Metascore 94 so just STFU. I'm tired of people acting as "they know better and everyone else is worng" .F*cking idiots, trolls , fanboys and attention whores.

You don't like it ?No one gives a f*ck.Your taste is sh*t period.Now f*ck off with the the "MGS4 is a horrible game' nonsense.Its pathetic.

P.S. On the topic. I am kinda disappointed.The game doens't look bad by any means but it definitely looked more interesting and unique an year back.

The name is a complete joke too.Revengace ? Seriously? What an as*hole you must be to come up with that... sigh.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

its crap therefore its fact its crap. Opinion people.

beganoo

Metascore 94 so just STFU. I'm tired of people acting as "they know better and everyone else is worng" .F*cking idiots, trolls , fanboys and attention whores.

You don't like it ?No one gives a f*ck.Your taste is sh*t period.Now f*ck off with the the "MGS4 is a horrible game' nonsense.Its pathetic.

P.S. On the topic. I am kinda disappointed.The game doens't look bad by any means but it definitely looked more interesting and unique an year back.

The name is a complete joke too.Revengace ? Seriously? What an as*hole you must be to come up with that... sigh.

Fission Mailed!

For all we know this could be an old build game is still in development, we have to see more this isn't enough.johny300

Someome should replace Raidens sword in those gifs, with one of those purple **** bats from Saints Row 3 :twisted:

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's so obvious that he wanted nothing to do with MGS4, and tied up every possible end (and ruined most of it) so he could be done with the franchise.BrunoBRS

Metascore 94 so just STFU. I'm tired of people acting as "they know better and everyone else is worng" .F*cking idiots, trolls , fanboys and attention whores.

You don't like it ?No one gives a f*ck.Your taste is sh*t period.Now f*ck off with the the "MGS4 is a horrible game' nonsense.Its pathetic.

P.S. On the topic. I am kinda disappointed.The game doens't look bad by any means but it definitely looked more interesting and unique an year back.

The name is a complete joke too.Revengace ? Seriously? What an as*hole you must be to come up with that... sigh.

You have a good point actually. There just might be a connection there.:P As long as he makes great games I can't care less of hes as*holenes but if he wants to play with the "big boys" he needs to step up his game.Street Fighter 4's Ono is still the running champion wen it come to huge trolling as*holes.

but I wish they would have kept the graphics similar to MGS4 like in the 2010 demo.Jack-o-Thompson

Why are people still complaining about the changes from the old game? They may have made promises of "hunter stealth" or whatever but they were empty promises - that's why the game was cancelled. Because they couldn't get their ideas to actually work in the game.

The Platinum version of the game takes what the old game actually had - slicing and dicing - and makes it fun, not insta-kill slow-mo cutting. The latter may look neat in a gif, but stretch it over 8+ hours and you'll see why the changes are a good thing.

Slashkice

Platinum Games also turned it into a generic cheesy over the top (i know MGS was over the top, but it was still grounded in reality) cartoony anime game. It doesn't resemble Metal Gear at all.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Why are people still complaining about the changes from the old game? They may have made promises of "hunter stealth" or whatever but they were empty promises - that's why the game was cancelled. Because they couldn't get their ideas to actually work in the game.

The Platinum version of the game takes what the old game actually had - slicing and dicing - and makes it fun, not insta-kill slow-mo cutting. The latter may look neat in a gif, but stretch it over 8+ hours and you'll see why the changes are a good thing.

Peredith

Platinum Games also turned it into a generic cheesy over the top (i know MGS was over the top, but it was still grounded in reality) cartoony anime game. It doesn't resemble Metal Gear at all.

remeber this is raiden gameplay not snake. Thats why it still felt kinda grounded in normal MGS games. Even though your a clone you were still a normal dude. When raiden poped up in MGS4 he was taking down giant robots and stoping giant boats. Hes a super cyborg.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Why are people still complaining about the changes from the old game? They may have made promises of "hunter stealth" or whatever but they were empty promises - that's why the game was cancelled. Because they couldn't get their ideas to actually work in the game.

The Platinum version of the game takes what the old game actually had - slicing and dicing - and makes it fun, not insta-kill slow-mo cutting. The latter may look neat in a gif, but stretch it over 8+ hours and you'll see why the changes are a good thing.

Peredith

Platinum Games also turned it into a generic cheesy over the top (i know MGS was over the top, but it was still grounded in reality) cartoony anime game. It doesn't resemble Metal Gear at all.

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Why are people still complaining about the changes from the old game? They may have made promises of "hunter stealth" or whatever but they were empty promises - that's why the game was cancelled. Because they couldn't get their ideas to actually work in the game.

The Platinum version of the game takes what the old game actually had - slicing and dicing - and makes it fun, not insta-kill slow-mo cutting. The latter may look neat in a gif, but stretch it over 8+ hours and you'll see why the changes are a good thing.

finalfantasy94

Platinum Games also turned it into a generic cheesy over the top (i know MGS was over the top, but it was still grounded in reality) cartoony anime game. It doesn't resemble Metal Gear at all.

remeber this is raiden gameplay not snake. Thats why it still felt kinda grounded in normal MGS games. Even though your a clone you were still a normal dude. When raiden poped up in MGS4 he was taking down giant robots and stoping giant boats. Hes a super cyborg.

Yes I know, but compare the gifs!!

2011:

The original trailer looked like Metal Gear, the new trailer looks like Vanquish with swords. :(

^ and vanquish with swords sounds f*cking awesome.

and i fail to see what makes the first ones look like metal gear. running on the same engine doesn't mean it plays similar.

The 2010 version had better graphics, but of course, the FPS was lower and maybe the res. new version is 1280x720 at 60FPS so there had to be a downgrade.

[QUOTE="johny300"]For all we know this could be an old build game is still in development, we have to see more this isn't enough.ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="johny300"]For all we know this could be an old build game is still in development, we have to see more this isn't enough.johny300

I think both look awesome.

The 2010 version had better graphics, but of course, the FPS was lower and maybe the res. new version is 1280x720 at 60FPS so there had to be a downgrade.

mitu123