x360 1080p but ps3 only 720p, why?

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

Couth_

GT5 is actually between 720p and 1080p and is upscaled to 1080p.

My TV only supports 720p so I am not sure.

I was annoyed when I bought my ps3 and it did not include HD cables in the box though.

[QUOTE="Couth_"]

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

slickchris7777

GT5 is actually between 720p and 1080p and is upscaled to 1080p.

I believe it's the same with Sigma

[QUOTE="slickchris7777"][QUOTE="Couth_"]

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

ZimpanX

GT5 is actually between 720p and 1080p and is upscaled to 1080p.

I believe it's the same with Sigma

theres not a whole lot of true 1080p games, i do believe that lair if not 720 then it is 1080p, but as we all know, shiny graphics dont make a good game

Is there any 360 game that runs in true 1080p?

I want Killer Instinct 3 in 1089p... that would be sick.H8s2spooge

I am pretty sure NBA Street (Vol 3?) and Superman the Gamerun in 1080p on 360, if not more games.

Personally, I think Sony's rhetoric about 1080p prior to PS3's launch, pertained mostly to PS3's ability to play Blu-ray movies, over HDMI... It was mid-leading - :shock: - because a lot of people assumed that they meant that PS3 games were going to be true 1080p, when in fact, very few presently are, or apparently ever will be for that matter...

apparently 1080p is just an impractical choice for most games... it has something to do with over-consuming system resources and bandwidth issues...

720p seems to be this gen's 'sweet-spot'...

Personally, I think Sony's rhetoric about 1080p prior to PS3's launch, pertained mostly to PS3's ability to play Blu-ray movies, over HDMI... It was mis-leading - :shock: - because a lot of people assumed that they meant that PS3 games were going to be true 1080p, when in fact, very few presently are, or apparently ever will be for that matter...

Seems that 1080p is just an impractical choice for most games... it has something to do with over-consuming system resources and bandwidth issues...

720p seems to be this gen's 'sweet-spot'... and not all the games that "support' that resolution actually nail it...

Developers of multiplatform games always develop first on the 360 (limited disc space + larger install base + easier game engine/processor/etc. to work with) and then port the game onto the PS3. That's why the PS3 usually gets the crappier end of most multiplatform games (although some multiplats are actually better overall on the PS3 than the 360 - but certainly not the majority). Multiplatform games would be much harder to make if they were originally developed for the PS3 and then ported over to the 360 - that's why developers do it the other way around, and why the limitations of the 360 (relative to the PS3) are also limiting the potential of multiplatform games on the PS3. To find the best quality of games on the PS3, look to exclusives from trusted developers such as Sony itself, Naughty Dog, Insomniac etc.

Developers of multiplatform games always develop the game first on the 360 (limited disc space + larger install base + easier game engine/processor/etc. to work with) and then port the game onto the PS3. That's why the PS3 usually gets the crappier end of most multiplatform games (although some multiplats are actually better overall on the PS3 than the 360 - but certainly not the majority). Multiplatform games would be much harder to make if they were originally developed for the PS3 and then had to be ported over to the 360 - that's why developers do it the other way around, and also why the limitations of the 360 (relative to the PS3) are limiting the potential/volume of quality multiplatform games on the PS3. To find the best quality of games on the PS3, look to exclusives from trusted developers such as Sony itself, Naughty Dog, Insomniac etc.

[QUOTE="ZimpanX"][QUOTE="slickchris7777"][QUOTE="Couth_"]

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

linkin_guy109

GT5 is actually between 720p and 1080p and is upscaled to 1080p.

I believe it's the same with Sigma

theres not a whole lot of true 1080p games, i do believe that lair if not 720 then it is 1080p, but as we all know, shiny graphics dont make a good game

lair looks horrible in many parts. dragons and buildings look fine, but that's it

Personally, I think Sony's rhetoric about 1080p prior to PS3's launch, pertained mostly to PS3's ability to play Blu-ray movies, over HDMI... It was mis-leading - :shock: - because a lot of people assumed that they meant that PS3 games were going to be true 1080p, when in fact, very few presently are, or apparently ever will be for that matter...

Seems that 1080p is just an impractical choice for most games... it has something to do with over-consuming system resources and bandwidth issues...

720p seems to be this gen's 'sweet-spot'... and not all the games that "support' that resolution actually nail it...

67gt500

exactly.

let them make the best game they can instead of wasting time at chasing something that can not be achieved properly

NG sigma is NATIVE 720p Upscaled to 1080p. Its not true 1080p.

Remember that people.

360 hardware has a better upscaler and thats why most of the 360 titles have 1080p on the back of the box, yes its misleading but its upscaled to that reslolution.

Lma:lol: @ thread title. SW strikes again..Masters_Chief

Another day, another misinformed fanboy.

360 hardware has a better upscaler

Forensic-Klown

i think that's actually true.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, 1080p is too demanding for these consoles to do it without sacraficing other resources.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

360 hardware has a better upscaler

Always-Honest

i think that's actually true.

It is true.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

360 hardware has a better upscaler

Always-Honest

i think that's actually true.

Arggh, yeah..its why i said it. :|

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

Couth_

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

360 hardware has a better upscaler

Forensic-Klown

i think that's actually true.

Arggh, yeah..its why i said it. :|

i know.. doesn't mean it is true though... but i think you're right.

It's not true 1080p on the 360 it's upscaled. The 360 hardware upscales them

The only TRUE 1080p games are Ninja Gaiden Sigma, MLB The Show, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and NBA 07 and 08. All what? Ps3 exclusives

Couth_

NGS and MLB are 720p, not 1080p and they are upscaled by software. GT5 is fake 1080p (renders in 960x1080) which takes advantage of the hardware scalor which only scales on one axis. Not sure about NBA 07 and 08 but they look like **** anyway.

I believe this is one that does native 1080P on 360.

Sound and Graphics
Graphically, Virtua Tennis 3hits some high notes. The character models are realistic in most cases: Roger Federer and Venus Williams look great, for instance, while everyone's favorite tennis sex symbol, Maria Sharapova, leaves a lot to be desired. The animations -- like swishing cloth textures and hair -- are excellent, and you'll really enjoy the new spin, reach, and dive animations. The grass and clay courts wear down over time, too, showing spots where players planted a perfectly placed corner shot. The crowds generally look good, with a variety of different attendees animating in different ways, and the courts are pretty good looking, too.

The game looks solid in 1080p. If you have a TV to show off this resolution, you're sort of in luck. My review build showed off some pretty ugly texture seams in players' heads, on the courts, and in cutscenes. Overall, the texture work isn't stunning. You'll see the textures are very basic, and the resolution doesn't enhance tremendous graphic design. The visuals appear more like high-res versions of the current generation version than true next-gen graphics.

I'm not usually for this kind've thing, but I think they need to make some kind've regulations on how they advertise this. They should list the native resolution and the upscaled resolution. Saying 1080p on the back of every box is misleading. If it's upscaled it should say so.EmperorSupreme

So true. Regulate the false!!!

NG sigma is NATIVE 720p Upscaled to 1080p. Its not true 1080p.

Remember that people.

360 hardware has a better upscaler and thats why most of the 360 titles have 1080p on the back of the box, yes its misleading but its upscaled to that reslolution.

Forensic-Klown

NG sigma is NATIVE 720p Upscaled to 1080p. Its not true 1080p.

Remember that people.

360 hardware has a better upscaler and thats why most of the 360 titles have 1080p on the back of the box, yes its misleading but its upscaled to that reslolution.

Forensic-Klown

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

Playstation 3

Army of Two = 720p (no AA, downscaled to 685p with black borders, no adjustable border)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~ 1088x624 (2x AA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
GT5 Prologue (demo) = 1280x1080 (2x AA)
AA 4x en 720p et garage/pit/showroom en 1920x1080 no AA
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA, The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA)
960x720 en mode 720p
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 1280x704 (2xAA, centered on 720p output)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
The Darkness (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Transformers (screenshot) = 960x1080 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
WWE 08 (screenshot) = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA)
les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation StefanS: "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artefact it seems as if it's the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)

PSN GAMES

Blast Factor = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Calling All Cars (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Echochrome = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Go Puzzle = 1920x1080
GTHD = 1440x1080 (no AA)
Selection des vehicules en 1920x1080
Locoroco Cocoreccho = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
Mainichi Issyo = 1440x1080 (4xAA)
Pixel Junk Monsters = 1920x1080
Pixel Junk Racers = 1920x1080
Rocketmen = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Rub'a'dub = 1600x1080 (no AA)
Snakeball = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Stardust HD = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Sudoku = 1920x1080
Tekken 5 Dark Ressurection (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)

Xbox 360

Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4x AA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) = 1040x624 (2x AA)
Call of Duty 4 (screenshot) = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (4x AA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2x AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops (demo) = 1280x720p (2x AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2x AA)
Fifa 2006 (demo) = 1024x576 (2x AA)
Fifa 2007 (demo) = 1200x675 (no AA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2x AA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4x MSAA dependent on framerate)
MotoGP 2006(screenshot) = 1280x1024 (framebuffer grab from AVS Forum member)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
NCAA Football 08 (demo) = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Oblivion (screenshot) = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Perfect Dark Zero (demo) = 1152x640 (no AA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (demo) = 1024x576 (2x AA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (demo) = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Project Gotham Racing 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ridge Racer 6 (demo) = 1440x810 (no AA)
Splinter Cell Double Agent = 1280x720 (4x AA) (developer)
The Club = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Tomb Raider Legend (demo) = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (screenshot) = 1040x585 (2x AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
Virtua Figther 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4x AA)
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)

BEYOND3D FORUMS

Consoles are WEAK

/THREAD

well ps3 has more games in 1080p according to that list but nothing that is mindblowing, all average 1080p games.mmirza23

lol...Wow you still don't get it about what these two consoles are doing between 720p and 1080p!! There is no such thing as REAL NATIVE 1080P on 360 or PS3. Up-scaled man up-scaled! Simple as that. So you might as well stop pretending that the PS3 has some magical setup that allows it to achieve REAL 1080P. From the sites that I've seen most every game that even said 1080P on some games, after being tested were not actually real 1080P. You want REAL 1080P????? Get a powerful PC.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"]well ps3 has more games in 1080p according to that list but nothing that is mindblowing, all average 1080p games.Patriot298

lol...Wow you still don't get it about what these two consoles are doing between 720p and 1080p!! There is no such thing as REAL NATIVE 1080P on 360 or PS3. Up-scaled man up-scaled! Simple as that. So you might as well stop pretending that the PS3 has some magical setup that allows it to achieve REAL 1080P. From the sites that I've seen most every game that even said 1080P on some games, after being tested were not actually real 1080P. You want REAL 1080P????? Get a powerful PC.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"]well ps3 has more games in 1080p according to that list but nothing that is mindblowing, all average 1080p games.Patriot298

lol...Wow you still don't get it about what these two consoles are doing between 720p and 1080p!! There is no such thing as REAL NATIVE 1080P on 360 or PS3. Up-scaled man up-scaled! Simple as that. So you might as well stop pretending that the PS3 has some magical setup that allows it to achieve REAL 1080P. From the sites that I've seen most every game that even said 1080P on some games, after being tested were not actually real 1080P. You want REAL 1080P????? Get a powerful PC.

I believe Ridge Racer 7 was the PS3's first 1080p game, a launch title in fact; so yeah, it's had that 1080p thing for a while. Devs. just can't properly utilize it yet, I say just stick to 720p, like the Ninja Gaiden Sigma director said.DementedDragon

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

NG sigma is NATIVE 720p Upscaled to 1080p. Its not true 1080p.

Remember that people.

360 hardware has a better upscaler and thats why most of the 360 titles have 1080p on the back of the box, yes its misleading but its upscaled to that reslolution.

mmirza23

Correct. The PS3 can only scale on two axises using software. Some games build scaling into the engine like NGS and MLB 08 but most dont.

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]Both systems are struggling with 720p anyway, want real HD gaming? Get a gaming PC.KraigA

Um 720p is an extremly low resolution by PC standards amd the PS3 can barily do that, quite often with the better looking games its lower.

[QUOTE="trizzle_a"]Both systems are struggling with 720p anyway, want real HD gaming? Get a gaming PC.KraigA

pwnt hard...

If the ps3 had a good working upscaler, it'd be all fine. But it only works on dvds, blu-rays *haven't confirmed*, and ps1/ps2 games. Most games can't do native 1080p anyways, because of how hardware intensive it is. Most crappier looking games could probably do it, since they're not that hardware intensive anyways. 720p still looks good enough though. Heck, even 480p does. Just wait until the next generation in 2-3 years, and most things will probably be 1080p.hazuki

[QUOTE="hazuki"]If the ps3 had a good working upscaler, it'd be all fine. But it only works on dvds, blu-rays *haven't confirmed*, and ps1/ps2 games. Most games can't do native 1080p anyways, because of how hardware intensive it is. Most crappier looking games could probably do it, since they're not that hardware intensive anyways. 720p still looks good enough though. Heck, even 480p does. Just wait until the next generation in 2-3 years, and most things will probably be 1080p.mmirza23

What? :lol:

[QUOTE="hazuki"]If the ps3 had a good working upscaler, it'd be all fine. But it only works on dvds, blu-rays *haven't confirmed*, and ps1/ps2 games. Most games can't do native 1080p anyways, because of how hardware intensive it is. Most crappier looking games could probably do it, since they're not that hardware intensive anyways. 720p still looks good enough though. Heck, even 480p does. Just wait until the next generation in 2-3 years, and most things will probably be 1080p.mmirza23