X360 Elite - What the PS3 SHOULD have been

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#1 YouShouldRunNow
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Now before I go into this. This is a post for MATURE UNBIASED readers. I am not a fanboy and I don't want fanboy responces either.

 I am both a X360 and a PS3 owner. I have played both extensively and am a member of various clans on both consoles so I'm not speaking out of thin air here.

 Buying the PS3 for me was the most exciting material event in awhile and the more time goes the more dissapointed I get. It's like SONY tried to shoot too far ahead of the times. Now I'm just downright sick of it. SONY had AMPLE time to polish this console and they still half-assed it.

First they had the cool looking boomerang controllers. Now I understand that some people were not fans of those but come on...ps2 controllers with the cord cut out basically? You have a multi-billion corporation and thats the best you can come up with? Also the controllers are bluetooth and I myself am one of the biggest supporters of bluetooth to the point that I have every electronic device in my possesion connected to each other. Soon I plan to get a toaster and bluetooth that too. However my controller keeps bugging out and losing signal and it keeps doing it at the most inconvenient of times. Maybe I just got a lemon but its really been bugging me. And the motion sensor is just crap that seems to have been put in as a last resort effort to do something creative. What's it good for again? Activating mines in COD3 single player?! HA. The only thing I've seen it useful in so far is melee attacks. It's worthless for driving because its either too sensitive or not sensitive enough.

 Next the hardware. It's already becoming clear that the technology is simply...not right. The GPU can't push out the required power, the BD reader reads slow providing longer load times and it is much easier to code games for the X360 so most PS3 games that are not exclusive will be X360 ports which means they will suck (cough...FEAR...cough cough). So it is great that we can have BD and a cell processor...I'd pick well made games over that.

 Lets continue. Support. Is it just me or do game producers not give a rat's ass about the PS3? So many games that have come out for the PS3 have been half-assed versions. My favorite game is COD3 right now. I made the dumbass mistake of getting the PS3 version. Unlike the X360 version it doesn't have leaderboards, clan support, voice support...Same with FEAR. It also does not have the map pack that X360 users were able to get. So when will we see games being supported by their devs? And when will we be able to experience the ULTIMATE POWER that the PS3 is supposed to be able to dish out when the X360 games clearly look and play better?

 Finally there are som absolutely FUNDAMENTAL things that the PS3 does not have. When will we be able to access the console's main menu while in game? I mean you have to leave game every time you want to read a message or chat with someone. Fun times eh?

And then here comes the X360 Elite. Its better and its black, which besides being an awesome kick in the face from Microsoft to SONY but also looks cool.

 Now this is not to say that I hate my PS3. I still have some fun with it playing with my clan but I really do think that if something revolutionary doesn't happen soon this system will die.

 I am curious about a couple of things though. Which HD movie system will get the movie 300? Which version of Assasins Creed to buy? So on so forth.

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#2 XaosII
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So... You pretty much bought a PS3 to play multiplats found on the 360 and/or the PC.

Sounds great. 

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#3 the-very-best
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Personally I find the Elite unnecessary. What MS should have done is drop its core system, forget about the Elite and reduce the price of the premium.

I think Nintendo had the right idea from the start using just one SKU in the market, and I'm glad Sony went that way too. 

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#4 YouShouldRunNow
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So... You pretty much bought a PS3 to play multiplats found on the 360 and/or the PC.

Sounds great. 

XaosII

 Not at all. I also play resistance and motorstorm a lot but what good exclusive game is there besides Resistance? Motorstorm is fun but its a rent game for me.

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#5 yoshi_64
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It's not cool having three SKUs. IMHO... the Core is the joke of systems, and the Elite certainly doesn't have enough differentiating factors that make it "elite" even they break down as well... so that problem still exist.

The larger HDD should have been sold seperately, and like TVB said, the other two SKUs should have been removed.

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#6 MikeE21286
Member since 2003 • 10405 Posts

the title of this should be.............

"X360 Elite - What the 360 SHOULD have been in the first place"

Seriously, the Elite is dumb. 

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#7 jsnepo
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And then here comes the X360 Elite. Its better and its black, which besides being an awesome kick in the face from Microsoft to SONY but also looks cool.

unbiased huh?

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#8 NobuoMusicMaker
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Elite price tag isn't too far off the PS3 and yet it has no HD optical drive.  Interesting.
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#9 ironcreed
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The PS3 is fine, as other than a 120GB HDD, it still has more features than the Elite does. No, what I propose is that the Elite is the what the 'Premium' should have been to begin with, instead of isolating your installed user base by releasing it a year and a half after the initial 360 launch.;)
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#10 purplemidgets
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"X360 Elite - What the PS3 SHOULD have been"

 

What... broken?

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"X360 Elite - What the PS3 SHOULD have been"

 

What... broken?

purplemidgets

:lol: QFT!

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#12 -Renegade
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Personally I find the Elite unnecessary. What MS should have done is drop its core system, forget about the Elite and reduce the price of the premium.

I think Nintendo had the right idea from the start using just one SKU in the market, and I'm glad Sony went that way too. 

the-very-best

i agree although if ms did want to bring the hdmi to market why not just start manufacturing new 360s with hdmi ports and sell bigger hdds seperately? and like you said just kill the core. btw topic creater this thread has brutonnyc written all over it.

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#13 JiveT
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The PS3 online thing is weak. I guess cows think HOME is going to bring in all this ad revenue so Sony will be able to support gamers with all the stuff they get on XBOXLIVE. Yeah I know. WAIT MORE.

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#14 -Renegade
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The PS3 online thing is weak. I guess cows think HOME is going to bring in all this ad revenue so Sony will be able to support gamers with all the stuff they get on XBOXLIVE. Yeah I know. WAIT MORE.

JiveT

I have to ask do you have a ps3? The online  is far from weak.

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#15 chaos-SD
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Reads first statement: Glad to here your keeping an open mind.
Proceeds to read the rest of the article: Theres something wrong with your first statement
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#16 X360PS3AMD05
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Only for Home theater people, i don't care for it i'm not rich.
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#17 Amigwo
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this thread fails on so many lvls,  gonna be eating ur own words pretty soon lol.

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#18 insomnia37
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 LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I guess you weren't aware that the "elite" is a cheap version of the ps3! and it still doesn't even have a built in hd-dvd drive, I guess lemmings were glad that ms didn't "shove" a new format down their throats.

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#19 NobuoMusicMaker
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The PS3 online thing is weak. I guess cows think HOME is going to bring in all this ad revenue so Sony will be able to support gamers with all the stuff they get on XBOXLIVE. Yeah I know. WAIT MORE.

JiveT

It's non-proprietary which is appealing to devs.  MS is an ass with their Xbox Live.  It's a reason why Kojima is staying away from it.  His MGS3 online was massively better than Xbox Live. 

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#20 X360PS3AMD05
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you weren't aware that the "elite" is a cheap version of the ps3! and it still doesn't even have a built in hd-dvd drive, I guess lemmings were glad that ms didn't "shove" a new format down their throats.

insomnia37
Yah because soon you'll be able to get a great game console with a bunch of good games for $300. Then later you can buy a dual format HD-DVD/BD player.
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#21 -oG-ShAdY
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Wow this thread broke down real quick. Don't ever start a comment with "I don't want to hear from the fan boys" because that's all you're ever going to get. Topic bounced around too much. And yes, I'm going to say it. Wait! Games are just on the horizon. Does anyone remember the slim pickin's that were available when the 360 first came out? I do. Sony is just starting the engine. It takes time to become the dominant console. And btw I always perferred the fact that Sony Online was always FREE and each developer was able to customize their own games online features. JMO
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#22 Fumpa
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awesome rant.
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#23 SyinnX
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'Buying the PS3 for me was the most exciting material event in awhile and the more time goes the more dissapointed I get"

^^ Thats how I feel with my psp. it looks great, great looking games .... but I wonder why the heck did I buy it. I dont use it as I use to when I first bought it, I feel like I have it just to show it of to people. I use to be a Sony fan the last two gens, well SEGA, then Sony. But now is like Microsoft just took the rug away from Sony, or in better word the crown. No time soon will Sony catch up in sales, what is really killing them is the price. Because game wise, they have some great looking cames coming out for the system, but seriously who will pay $600 for a system? I would have mostly ran out and got the system, but sales are not that good ... I dont want to feel the pain as I did when the dreamcast died (R.I.P). So that is why this time Im waiting, Ill wait till the system reacher $400, $350, before I go get it.  
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#24 squallff8_fan
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I think the ps3 is great the way it is, I mean u cant really get a better bargain for such a system for $600 because it is well worth it, I know it does cost alot for alot of casuals, but even for a casual if u really look what the system comes with, the price is really a great price. Ppl wanna use no games as an excuse but we all know the games will be there sooner or later, its just a matter of time until the ps3 starts kicking into gear.
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#25 ReverseCycology
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The PS3 have great features but unfortunately these features also what brings the PS3 down.  Let's start with the sixaxis.  Basically tilt motion is useless.  The fact that they said rumble was so last gen, just because they didn't want to pay up at first, just makes Sony look like donkeys hypocrits.  Another great PS3 feature is blu-ray, but unfortunately that's the main reason why the price is so expensive for a gaming console.  It's great for hd-movies, but for general video gaming not so much right now.  Plus it should've came with an hdmi cable in the box to begin with.

But even if hdmi did came with the PS3, not alot of people have televisions that can support the resolution.  Another nice feature is the free online.  But I never had high hopes for it to begin with, just look how the online support for the PS2 turned out to be, there was no online support at all.  The PS3 online just feels like an updated version of the PSP.  Another good feature is the CELL but that gives game developers problems.  The PS3 is so complex to develop for, you see tons of developers turning to the 360 because it's easier to make games on that console.  If you think about it from a game developer perspective, why would you work harder to make a video game for the PS3 when you can have an easier time on the 360 plus you would sell more games on the Xbox 360.

I remember how cows were flaunting the PS3 specifications, but these specifications are what makes game exclusives not exclusive, and what makes multiplatform games better on the 360.  But the PS3 have so much potential.  I hope we'll see real progress by 2008.  But I know people are sick of waiting.  The PS3 have so much potential, so did the Dreamcast.  So yeah.