X360 Price Cut Will Keep Sony Behind

First off, given that the PS3 to PS2 sales ratio is 1:3, a drop of 200% and the X360 to Xbox sales ratio is 2:1, an 100% increase, regardless who is up a few million units on who when this generation ends, Sony dramatically underwhelmed expectations and Microsoft dramatically surpasses expecations.

With those truths noted, lets now talk about how the X360 will retain its 2.5M+ unit lead. The answer is the pending sales drop:

Bringing the X360 4GB down to $149, the X360 250GB to $249 and the X360 250GB Elite Bundle to $299 will do more for Xbox than dropping a PS3 to $249 or a shaved version to $199. $199 is a nice price for someone serious about buying a console but anything below that starts drawing in fence buyers and spur of the moment buyers (realistically the only people who havent jumped into this gen yet)

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and life goes on.

Price drop won't, but fact that montly sales of those consoles are near equle will make them stay as it is..... like it was whole this gen

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you again? this again?

Ok. Now what? What do we do? Do we just keep playing games? Do I just buy shiny new shoes?

First off, given that the PS3 to PS2 sales ratio is 1:3, a drop of 200% and the X360 to Xbox sales ratio is 2:1, an 100% increase, regardless who is up a few million units on who when this generation ends, Sony dramatically underwhelmed expectations and Microsoft dramatically surpasses expecations.

With those truths noted, lets now talk about how the X360 will retain its 2.5M+ unit lead. The answer is the pending sales drop:

Bringing the X360 4GB down to $149, the X360 250GB to $249 and the X360 250GB Elite Bundle to $299 will do more for Xbox than dropping a PS3 to $249 or a shaved version to $199. $199 is a nice price for someone serious about buying a console but anything below that starts drawing in fence buyers and spur of the moment buyers (realistically the only people who havent jumped into this gen yet)

shadow8585

Your PS2 to PS3 comparrison is very flawed and here's why,

The PS2 took over 10 years to reach the 150 million you refer to. It launched at $299 and most of those sales were after it dropped to $199.

The PS3 took 4.5 years to reach 50 million and it finally came down to $299.

Comparing 10 years to 4.5 years is nonsense. The PS3 has been selling well at $299 and continues to close the gap on 360 which is already at $199. At some point the PS3 will drop to $199 and you know sales will soar when it does.

It's been pretty much shown that most of the sales of any console occur at the $199 price and below. 360 is already there, yet every week the $299 PS3 outsells it.

When PS3 drops to $199 it is GAME OVER8)

Your PS2 to PS3 comparrison is very flawed and here's why,

The PS2 took over 10 years to reach the 150 million you refer to. It launched at $299 and most of those sales were after it dropped to $199.

The PS3 took 4.5 years to reach 50 million and it finally came down to $299.

Comparing 10 years to 4.5 years is nonsense. The PS3 has been selling well at $299 and continues to close the gap on 360 which is already at $199. At some point the PS3 will drop to $199 and you know sales will soar when it does.

It's been pretty much shown that most of the sales of any console occur at the $199 price and below. 360 is already there, yet every week the $299 PS3 outsells it.

When PS3 drops to $199 it is GAME OVER8)

mztazmz

When PS3 drops to $199 it is GAME OVER8)mztazmz

[QUOTE="mztazmz"]When PS3 drops to $199 it is GAME OVER8)Doolz2024

That's not happening any time soon.

Especially when Sony has just started making a profit off of each PS3 sold back in Spring or Summer last year. I doubt that they will risk going back into the red again by dropping the price of the PS3 to $200 at the wrong time. Plus there's the PS Vita to think about, as they'll probably take losses off of each Vita being sold.

[QUOTE="mztazmz"]

Your PS2 to PS3 comparrison is very flawed and here's why,

The PS2 took over 10 years to reach the 150 million you refer to. It launched at $299 and most of those sales were after it dropped to $199.

The PS3 took 4.5 years to reach 50 million and it finally came down to $299.

Comparing 10 years to 4.5 years is nonsense. The PS3 has been selling well at $299 and continues to close the gap on 360 which is already at $199. At some point the PS3 will drop to $199 and you know sales will soar when it does.

It's been pretty much shown that most of the sales of any console occur at the $199 price and below. 360 is already there, yet every week the $299 PS3 outsells it.

When PS3 drops to $199 it is GAME OVER8)

7suarez7

[QUOTE="7suarez7"][QUOTE="mztazmz"]

Your PS2 to PS3 comparrison is very flawed and here's why,

The PS2 took over 10 years to reach the 150 million you refer to. It launched at $299 and most of those sales were after it dropped to $199.

The PS3 took 4.5 years to reach 50 million and it finally came down to $299.

Comparing 10 years to 4.5 years is nonsense. The PS3 has been selling well at $299 and continues to close the gap on 360 which is already at $199. At some point the PS3 will drop to $199 and you know sales will soar when it does.

It's been pretty much shown that most of the sales of any console occur at the $199 price and below. 360 is already there, yet every week the $299 PS3 outsells it.

When PS3 drops to $199 it is GAME OVER8)

Nonstop-Madness

And what if Nintendo & Microsoft's next gen consoles have Blu-Ray installed on their next gen consoles? Then Sony won't have that advantage anymore. Plus they'll most likely charge to play online for next gen.

And what if Nintendo & Microsoft's next gen consoles have Blu-Ray installed on their next gen consoles? Then Sony won't have that advantage anymore. Plus they'll most likely charge to play online for next gen.

garland51

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="7suarez7"] When PS3 drops to 199 it will be too late and Microsoft will have their next machine out. Nintendo would have won the next gen by then whilst Sony will still be milking the PS3.garland51

And what if Nintendo & Microsoft's next gen consoles have Blu-Ray installed on their next gen consoles? Then Sony won't have that advantage anymore. Plus they'll most likely charge to play online for next gen.

I'm starting to get tired of OMG Sony didn't sell as many PS3s as PS2s and MS sold way more 360s than Xboxs. Not hard for MS considering it would be a real shame if they couldn't outsell the original Xbox. Also the PS2 has sold 150 million. I can't say I'm too surprised that the PS3 won't sell as much as the PS2. But we get it. The PS3 didn't sell as much as the PS2 and the 360 has done better than the Xbox. We get it. Also wasn't this said when the 360 slim came out? I guess it didn't come true if its having to be said again.

I found an interesting article from last year's March, where an analyst said that the PS3 will one day surpass the Wii's sales. Hmmm...give it another 4-5 years, and it should happen, especially with the Wii's sales dramatically declining. Maybe Nintendo will end up second or last place by the end of the ten-year console generation.

http://beefjack.com/news/ps3-surpass-wii-sales-2013-predicts-analyst/

http://www.1up.com/news/analyst-ps3-outsell-wii-2013

One other article says that the PS3 will win this console war in terms of sales, once its ten-year cycle is up.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/playstation/strategy-analytics-ps3-will-win-console-war-18688

I found an interesting article from last year's March, where an analyst said that the PS3 will one day surpass the Wii's sales. Hmmm...give it another 4-5 years, and it should happen, especially with the Wii's sales dramatically declining. Maybe Nintendo will end up second or last place by the end of the ten-year console generation.

http://beefjack.com/news/ps3-surpass-wii-sales-2013-predicts-analyst/

http://www.1up.com/news/analyst-ps3-outsell-wii-2013

One other article says that the PS3 will win this console war in terms of sales, once its ten-year cycle is up.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/playstation/strategy-analytics-ps3-will-win-console-war-18688Mawy_Golomb

It won't even matter, because no one will care about that, & by then, consumers will be paying more attention to Project Cafe & the next Xbox system than towards the PS3 once they're out. Nintendo have already succeeded.

well good for your stocks in microsoft

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="7suarez7"] When PS3 drops to 199 it will be too late and Microsoft will have their next machine out. Nintendo would have won the next gen by then whilst Sony will still be milking the PS3.garland51

And what if Nintendo & Microsoft's next gen consoles have Blu-Ray installed on their next gen consoles? Then Sony won't have that advantage anymore. Plus they'll most likely charge to play online for next gen.

If we're not going to include total sales over the course of a console's lifetime, then what's the point of caring how either console sells in the first place? Realistically-speaking, unless the Kinect gets some killer apps and the 360 sees an increase in exclusives over the last remaining years of its time, the PS3 will win in the end.

Multiplatform-wise, I can see a more even distribution of games on each console than during this gen, but I still don't see how Microsoft can catch up to Sony with its exclusives. And a significant amount of exclusives will likely be multiplayer and/or co-op enabled by then, so this will play greatly to Sony's advantage, even if Sony's online service is still not as great as Microsoft's.

seeing how the PS brand has been known for it's nostalgia, im pretty sure when it hits 199 it will skyrocket...and still sell when ps4 comes out

What makes you think the price of the PS3 won't drop? Its been 2 years...

and i'll still be buying all my games for my ps3 while my 360 collects dust lol.

What makes you think the price of the PS3 won't drop? Its been 2 years...RandomWinner

Because they just turned profitable last Spring or Summer, & needs to make a profit as much as possible? They can't afford to make a huge price drop to $200 as of yet.

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

What makes you think the price of the PS3 won't drop? Its been 2 years...garland51

Because they just turned profitable last Spring & Summer, & needs to make a profit as much as possible? They can't afford to make a huge price drop to $200 as of yet.

But the games are what matters, which the 360 is lacking. Heil68

Ummm...no. In spite of the next consoles being released during the time of the current ones, the winner is the one who at the very end sells the most units. Otherwise, there's really no point in debating console wars. Besides, each new console gen should be treated as something unrelated to the current one, so it's wrong logic to say that Nintendo will automatically succeed again, just because the Wii is selling the most units right now.Mawy_Golomb

Good observation;)

Those who think Nintendo can claim an automatic victory with Cafe should look back at how, by that logic, N64 should have had an automatic victory.

Nintendo(and maybe MS) using Bluray in their next consoles only catches them up to the current gen PS3. And as the specs go, Cafe will have better graphics than PS3, but it certainly won't be night and day. Cafe launching next year gives both MS and especially Sony a big advantage as they will both have the chance to release consoles quite a bit more powerful. This reminds me of Dreamcast coming out early giving the other 3 the chance to overpower it.

Just think, when Cafe launches, PS3 will most likely be $199 as costs drop alot in a year's time. If Cafe launches at $399 as many have guessed, it will cost twice as much, have Bluray(no advantage), have somewhat better graphics, and a small games library. On the other hand, PS3 will be cheap, have Bluray as well, and have a huge library of AAA games(many that are exclusive).

As far as I can see, PS3 will probably have at least another 3 years to thrive.

why do lemmings keep pointing out last gen and the ps2? if the winner from the previous gen always won the next gen then atari would still be in first place now. nobody is saying that the 360 didn't perform much better then the original xbox but at the end of the day ps3 closing the gap coming out a year later and being more expensive is an achivement no matter how you spin it. the real story of this gen was nintendo going from the sure loser to the far and away winner. In a real way both sony and ms got owned by nintendo.

First off, given that the PS3 to PS2 sales ratio is 1:3, a drop of 200% and the X360 to Xbox sales ratio is 2:1, an 100% increase, regardless who is up a few million units on who when this generation ends, Sony dramatically underwhelmed expectations and Microsoft dramatically surpasses expecations.With those truths noted, lets now talk about how the X360 will retain its 2.5M+ unit lead. The answer is the pending sales drop: Bringing the X360 4GB down to $149 , the X360 250GB to $249 and the X360 250GB Elite Bundle to $299 will do more for Xbox than dropping a PS3 to $249 or a shaved version to $199. $199 is a nice price for someone serious about buying a console but anything below that starts drawing in fence buyers and spur of the moment buyers (realistically the only people who havent jumped into this gen yet)shadow8585

Because they just turned profitable last Spring or Summer, & needs to make a profit as much as possible? They can't afford to make a huge price drop to $200 as of yet.garland51

why do lemmings keep pointing out last gen and the ps2? if the winner from the previous gen always won the next gen then atari would still be in first place now. nobody is saying that the 360 didn't perform much better then the original xbox but at the end of the day ps3 closing the gap coming out a year later and being more expensive is an achivement no matter how you spin it. the real story of this gen was nintendo going from the sure loser to the far and away winner. In a real way both sony and ms got owned by nintendo.

Pray_to_me

What's amazing is the fact that the PS3 was a pretty expensive console at the time of its launch, yet, unlike the 3DO, it hasn't been a complete failure. Mawy_Golomb

If the PS1 & the PS2 weren't hugely successful, it would've been a complete failure.

I hope the price cut does happen. I'd like to replace my elite with a slim because I hear they actually are much silenter (especially with games installed). Might get one for my birthday at the end of August (and give my elite to my brother I suppose).