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#1 PS3_3DO
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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

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What?! This thread is sad.  

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#3 PS3_3DO
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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

-Reggaeton-

What?! This thread is sad.  

Didn't you hear Sony fanboys believe everyone with a 360 will have it break on them in a year or less. :o

 

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#4 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

PS3_3DO

What?! This thread is sad.

Didn't you hear Sony fanboys believe everyone with a 360 will have it break on them in a year or less. :o

 

Why would they cry when its not braking anymore(hopefully) i dont get the logic. This thread failed bad. 

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#5 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

-Reggaeton-

What?! This thread is sad.

Didn't you hear Sony fanboys believe everyone with a 360 will have it break on them in a year or less. :o

 

Why would they cry when its not braking anymore(hopefully) i dont get the logic. This thread failed bad. 

They will cry when they can't use that excuse anymore and the X360 will sell more than the PS3 next winter.

 

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Yea, I'm still waiting for that, I thought Elite would introduce it but they blow it.
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#7 Dualshockin
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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

PS3_3DO
Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?
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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

PS3_3DO
I wouldn't be bragging if it took my console over a year to fix a serious design flaw that has caused many to have terrible experiences and overheating issues.
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#9 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

WheresMyChippy
I wouldn't be bragging if it took my console over a year to fix a serious design flaw that has caused many to have terrible experiences and overheating issues.

he hasnt got a link, the problem is not fixed.
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#10 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

Dualshockin

Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?

LOL funny picture. Anyway like the PS2 that got better over time that had less DREs the 360 will have less heat issues meaning less breaking down. Oh and how is that milking when people buy a new console in the fall that has the new CPU in it. I guess Sony is milking all the Cows when it comes out with their 65nm Cell CPU too.

 

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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

PS3_3DO
So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

Dualshockin
Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?

I don't think the l33t is ''totally'' milkage but still LMAO.
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#13 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

Hadoken_Kid

So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?

There's the calculation behind 10mil 

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#14 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

Hadoken_Kid

So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?

Yeah technology gets better over time that's usually how it happens. If you want to have the best electronics you have to wait a few revisions to get it. I guess people forgot how bad the PS2 was until Sony fixed it over a few years.

 

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[QUOTE="Hadoken_Kid"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

-Reggaeton-

So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?

There's the calculation behind 10mil

lol.
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#16 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="Hadoken_Kid"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

Hadoken_Kid

So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?

There's the calculation behind 10mil

lol.

Is that the same thing as Sony releasing different PS2s over the last 5 years. I remember all the PS2s breaking down. :lol:

 

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The new black ones don't use the 65nm yet so when exactly is it going to be used? So since MS said they'll eventually have the HD-DVD internal...... there's a guarunteed FIVE versions of the 360. Core, Premium, Black, 65nm, HD-DVD (and I still don't think they've started using the quieter DVD drives as planned).

 I'll buy one as soon as the hideous power supply brick is internal,  use quieter drives, and have finalized features.

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The new black ones don't use the 65nm yet so when exactly is it going to be used? So since MS said they'll eventually have the HD-DVD internal...... there's a guarunteed FIVE versions of the 360. Core, Premium, Black, 65nm, HD-DVD (and I still don't think they've started using the quieter DVD drives as planned).

I'll buy one as soon as the hideous power supply brick is internal, use quieter drives, and have finalized features.

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Power brick internaL? you know that its 1/2 the size of the box right? i dont want the box to be as big as my tv 

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[QUOTE="Hadoken_Kid"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="Hadoken_Kid"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

PS3_3DO

So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?

There's the calculation behind 10mil

lol.

Is that the same thing as Sony releasing different PS2s over the last 5 years. I remember all the PS2s breaking down. :lol:

 

PS2 did have its fair share of break downs. Thankfully that's not the case with the PS3. 360 on the other hand...as you pointed out what the 360 is doing as the PS2 did with releasing a Slim version later. Isn't the price suppose to remain same, or go down? Elite just proves that MS is milking the consumer with their "options". "Hey, look at us. It's MS with a NEW 360. Come and get it!" DS proved this point rather well with their reversions of the DS to DSLite. Milked. If Sony goes about this trend to released a new PS3 that's priced more, I have no more faith in the console makers anymore. I rather just see the games start flowing in, instead of a piss fest contest of hardware. "Ours can now do more!". I don't care anymore. Just give me my Gears of War content! Give me my Halo 3! Give me my MGS4!

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Is that the same thing as Sony releasing different PS2s over the last 5 years. I remember all the PS2s breaking down. :lol:PS3_3DO
And here ladies and gentlemen,we have a form of damage control which is still existent in SW: "The last gen Vs this gen" type. The Xbox 360 is as you unknowingly admitted,a faulty piece of hardware.With 3 Xbox's out before May,it makes you wonder,just how many 360's are MS planning on releasing lol?
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

Dualshockin
Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?

HEY LOOK! IT'S THE 360 ELITE!
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The new black ones don't use the 65nm yet so when exactly is it going to be used? So since MS said they'll eventually have the HD-DVD internal...... there's a guarunteed FIVE versions of the 360. Core, Premium, Black, 65nm, HD-DVD (and I still don't think they've started using the quieter DVD drives as planned).

 I'll buy one as soon as the hideous power supply brick is internal,  use quieter drives, and have finalized features.

Lazy_Boy88

I believe for the last few months they have been using the quieter DVD drives. I read some where that they have been. If you got a new 360 in the last few months it should make less noise from the DVD drive. This fall they will use the 65nm chips in all 360s so if they are still making a core it will be using one too. As far as the external power supply goes I would rather have it outside if you can make the 360 even smaller say kind of like what Sony did with the PS2 except I doubt it could ever be that small.

 

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#23 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

ddldave

Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?

HEY LOOK! IT'S THE 360 ELITE!

Look MS is copying Sony! :o

Anyone know if Sony is going to release a white or silver PS3 anytime soon? :D

 

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[QUOTE="ddldave"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

PS3_3DO

Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?

HEY LOOK! IT'S THE 360 ELITE!

Look MS is copying Sony! :o

Anyone know if Sony is going to release a white or silver PS3 anytime soon? :D

 

Gotta love those cosmetic changes that give an option or colour with no extra cost compared with hardware upgrades :roll:

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="ddldave"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

CalmityDaunt

Wait,you mean there's yet another 360 on the way?

HEY LOOK! IT'S THE 360 ELITE!

Look MS is copying Sony! :o

Anyone know if Sony is going to release a white or silver PS3 anytime soon? :D

 

Gotta love those cosmetic changes that give an option or colour with no extra cost compared with hardware upgrades :roll:

Didn't you hear Sony is making a 80gb PS3. I guess most Console gamers don't know how to install a HDD. ;)

 

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Didn't you hear Sony is making a 80gb PS3. I guess most Console gamers don't know how to install a HDD.

guess what? you heard about sony making a 80 gb sony playstation 3 yet? april fools!
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#27 Kreean
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Why should Sony put a 80GB into a new PS3? You can exchange the drive by yourself, there is no need for a new model.
Only exception is the 65nm CPU, but in this point MS and Sony screwed it up.
The new 65nm means lesser heat, lesser power consumption and lesser price.
So every early adopters who have bought the 360 or PS3 are the ones who pay.
But hey that's the price for being a early adopter!
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

WheresMyChippy
I wouldn't be bragging if it took my console over a year to fix a serious design flaw that has caused many to have terrible experiences and overheating issues.

LMAO, I can't stop laughing. So true!
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Oh and how is that milking when people buy a new console in the fall that has the new CPU in it. I guess Sony is milking all the Cows when it comes out with their 65nm Cell CPU too. PS3_3DO
that's how.
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I heard the first set of "elites" won't have the new chip. Is this true?
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]

The new black ones don't use the 65nm yet so when exactly is it going to be used? So since MS said they'll eventually have the HD-DVD internal...... there's a guarunteed FIVE versions of the 360. Core, Premium, Black, 65nm, HD-DVD (and I still don't think they've started using the quieter DVD drives as planned).

I'll buy one as soon as the hideous power supply brick is internal, use quieter drives, and have finalized features.

'

PS3_3DO

I believe for the last few months they have been using the quieter DVD drives. I read some where that they have been. If you got a new 360 in the last few months it should make less noise from the DVD drive. This fall they will use the 65nm chips in all 360s so if they are still making a core it will be using one too. As far as the external power supply goes I would rather have it outside if you can make the 360 even smaller say kind of like what Sony did with the PS2 except I doubt it could ever be that small.

 

My friend got a 360 last month. Its still loud as !@ck. 

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That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

PS3_3DO
Taking 2 years to iron out a problem. I guess this does call for celebration. Who wants to open the bubbly?
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[QUOTE="Hadoken_Kid"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

That is the day all the Sony fanboys cry since it means no more 360s breaking. I wonder what the Sony fanboys will come up with next to try and bash the Xbox 360. :lol:

 

PS3_3DO

So you admit all 360s break down then right now ? also you know the ellite models wont have the chips. So typical MS fanboy buys console at launch 3 months later it breaks then buys ellite model 1 year later. 6 months later buys another ellite model with the chips in it. Now who is the Cow being milked. ?

Yeah technology gets better over time that's usually how it happens. If you want to have the best electronics you have to wait a few revisions to get it. I guess people forgot how bad the PS2 was until Sony fixed it over a few years.

 

If it is the same techonology. It doesn't get better.
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#35 CalmityDaunt
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I heard the first set of "elites" won't have the new chip. Is this true?CalmityDaunt
Anyone? The reason i ask is because my nephew is wanting a new system and i would let him have my 360 and get the elite, but only if the chip was upgraded etc.
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#36 asmallchild
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[QUOTE="CalmityDaunt"]I heard the first set of "elites" won't have the new chip. Is this true?CalmityDaunt
Anyone? The reason i ask is because my nephew is wanting a new system and i would let him have my 360 and get the elite, but only if the chip was upgraded etc.

the 65nm chip is planned for the fall of 2007. The Elites will not have them yet. That being said, there is no guarantee the 65nm chips will eliminate all the hardware problems the Xbox360 (at least the launch units) have had. I've heard reports of disc read errors and scratching. I'm pretty sure chips don't do that. All in all, if your nephew wants a new system, I'd go with the Elite. I think after 1.5 years, MS would have ironed out all hardware woes. (I seriously doubt this new batch of Elites is as errorprone as the original batch of launch units)
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You guys are pathetic. Just because some people use that as an excuse doesn't mean every ps3-fanboy use it as an excuse. Lemmings...
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Great, another SKU... lol
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#39 Kreean
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Why does the 360 overheat?
The explanation is easy. Due to the normal DVD drive it has to spin fast to read the data.
This generates loud noise (4,4 Sone) and heat. It comes to a heat congestion in the console which leads to overheating of the GPU/CPU and to the known issue (hang-up). If this happens several times it will damage the GPU or CPU and the 360 will die.
The change to the 65nm spec is the right step in the right direction, but they need to think something about the DVD-Drive.

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i would have thought the Xbox360 would have had 65nm by now- afterall they've replaced the DVD drives in them with new faster & quieter ones- but there's no point in rushing out to get an X360 with faster & quieter drives because u gotta wait for 65nm to be available- so thats reducing the demand right now.
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#41 asmallchild
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i would have thought the Xbox360 would have had 65nm by now- afterall they've replaced the DVD drives in them with new faster & quieter ones- but there's no point in rushing out to get an X360 with faster & quieter drives because u gotta wait for 65nm to be available- so thats reducing the demand right now.CwlHeddwyn
I think most casual consumers don't know that. All in all, I think the 65nm process will probably help with the heat problem but there's got to be something else MS can do to alleviate issues. Perhaps enhancing the cooling system? the 65nm process wasn't designed with the intent of enhancing reliability. It was designed with the intent to reduce manufacturing costs so if one waits until Fall 2007, there's a good chance you can get the Xbox360 at a price cut. I do believe the chip is planned for insertion into all models of the Xbox360 (not just the Elite)
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#42 jackassultima
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Finally Microsoft have a possible fix for a major flaw that has senn them shell out millions for the repair and replacement of consoles and the major incovenience cause to its user base. How long did that take then?

 

By the way, this isn't a sad day for cows, it's a happy day for all true gamers.

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#43 HazeNPopes
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Wow you are one annoying fanboy, how old are you? Seriously, who dedicates their life into worshipping m$ and the 360?
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#44 Kreean
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@ asmallchild
"It was designed with the intent to reduce manufacturing costs so if one waits until Fall 2007, there's a good chance you can get the Xbox360 at a price cut. I do believe the chip is planned for insertion into all models of the Xbox360 (not just the Elite)"

You're right.
If I would want to buy one I would wait.
The same goes with the PS3.
I won't buy any of them till they have 65nm...

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#45 asmallchild
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@ asmallchild
"It was designed with the intent to reduce manufacturing costs so if one waits until Fall 2007, there's a good chance you can get the Xbox360 at a price cut. I do believe the chip is planned for insertion into all models of the Xbox360 (not just the Elite)"

You're right.
If I would want to buy one I would wait.
The same goes with the PS3.
I won't buy any of them till they have 65nm...

Kreean
That's certainly one way to go about it. If price isn't a concern though, I wouldn't hold off on purchasing a console just because it doesn't have the cooler running 65nm chip in it. Incidentally, any word on when the PS3 is getting its 65nm chip?
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#46 Ryusuken
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The new 65nm CPU is a natural evolution to processors. IBM, INTEL and AMD are all going 65nm, and soon even 45 and 30nm. This is no news whatsoever. ANd as another already said, its more about prodution costs reduction than anything else, even if those new processors use less power and generates less heat.
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#47 Kreean
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No. The production started beginning this year.
But I have no clue when the first PS3 with 65nm will ship. For me the purchase price doesn't matter.
But the power consumption of the consoles does.
360s 160W and PS3s 180W are much for a gaming console,
and with the new chip they will reduce it, and lower my bill ;)

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#48 blacktorn
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MMM they don't break anymore,or at least not as much as they did.

I wish people would stop going on about it,it's started to get really boring now. 

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#49 asmallchild
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@ asmallchild

No. The production started beginning this year.
But I have no clue when the first PS3 with 65nm will ship. For me the purchase price doesn't matter.
But the power consumption of the consoles does.
360s 160W and PS3s 180W are much for a gaming console,
and with the new chip they will reduce it, and lower my bill ;)

Kreean
ahhh I see I don't run my consoles as long as I used to with my older ones (I think I fried out my Xbox from abusive gameplay :)) so I haven't noticed how they affect the electric bill
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#50 A2D
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I skipped over the responses, but I hope you know that the Elite 360's won't have the CPU on the 65nm scale :P Wonder when they plan to do it...