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#51 Kahuna_1
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You pay $50, we pay $0...your service should be much better.

rykaziel

 

All of the new updates he mentioned do not require the Gold subscription.  Therefore, we pay $0, you pay $0. 

Ok, if you are gonna use that argument then since we both pay 0 for updates/access to store, with my 0 I can still play games while you cannot.

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#52 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="SEAL10304"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

Uhm.. You can do anything but play games online when you backround dl stuff from PSN, not just "browse the PSN store" like you said.

Plus, 360 got this update 18 months after it came out. Whos to say that the PS3 wont have the same feature in the same amount of time?

FrenziedRaldo24

Huh? 18 months from now? And even if that happens, how far ahead do you think XBL will be in the same 18 months?

Face it, PSN is a freaking joke in comparison. Features, content, usability, you name it.

You pay $50, we pay $0...your service should be much better.

It IS much better. And XBL is free unless you want to play online, which most people don't.

Not true. There is some content that is exclusive to XBL Gold subscribers.

Nothing major. Only a few theme packs, and Gold subscribers get some map packs and expansions sooner than Silver subscribers, but nothing more.
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#53 BrownWalrus
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Hey, how long did it take for the 360 to come up with this? Let's see, 1 year about 5 months now. How long has the PS3 been out? About 6 months. I think that should end all arguments.
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#54 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="SEAL10304"][QUOTE="asdasd"]

Uhm.. You can do anything but play games online when you backround dl stuff from PSN, not just "browse the PSN store" like you said.

Plus, 360 got this update 18 months after it came out. Whos to say that the PS3 wont have the same feature in the same amount of time?

Sully28

Huh? 18 months from now? And even if that happens, how far ahead do you think XBL will be in the same 18 months?

Face it, PSN is a freaking joke in comparison. Features, content, usability, you name it.

You pay $50, we pay $0...your service should be much better.

It IS much better. And XBL is free unless you want to play online, which most people don't.[/QUOTE]

You lost all respect after that statement.

Prove me wrong. 5 million people at the end of 2005 played online. Out of 140 million online-capable consoles. The fraction hasn't much improved for the 360 or PS3. Although I'm sure a lot of people have TRIED online gaming, I'm equally certain that the majority of them do not play regularly.
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#55 SEAL10304
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[QUOTE="rykaziel"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

You pay $50, we pay $0...your service should be much better.

Kahuna_1

 

All of the new updates he mentioned do not require the Gold subscription. Therefore, we pay $0, you pay $0.

Ok, if you are gonna use that argument then since we both pay 0 for updates/access to store, with my 0 I can still play barely any games at all with PS2 like online features on crappy servers while you cannot.

Fixed.
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#56 mjarantilla
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Hey, how long did it take for the 360 to come up with this? Let's see, 1 year about 5 months now. How long has the PS3 been out? About 6 months. I think that should end all arguments.BrownWalrus
The 360 has had queued downloads and fully-supported background downloading since its spring update last year. The PS3 still has only partial background downloading.
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#57 PdIZZLE-PS3
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[QUOTE="ryder05"]But you have to pay for it on the 360. PS3 does it for freeSEAL10304

YOU PAID $600 FOR YOUR CONSOLE. THE 360 COSTS $400. ADD $50 FOR ONLINE EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS, WITH FEATUES AND SERVICES THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A YEAR AHEAD, MANAGED BY THE BEST SOFTWARE GIANTS IN THE GAMING BUSINESS.

PSN IS BLOWN INTO SMITHEREENS. IT DOES NOT STACK UP. BY THE TIMEIT FINALLY MATCHES UP THE 720 WILL BE OUT.


Oh so by the end of the year? MS seems to abandon their last consoles and rush one out pretty quickly...
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[QUOTE="ryder05"]But you have to pay for it on the 360. PS3 does it for freeSEAL10304

YOU PAID $600 FOR YOUR CONSOLE. THE 360 COSTS $400. ADD $50 FOR ONLINE EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS, WITH FEATUES AND SERVICES THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A YEAR AHEAD, MANAGED BY THE BEST SOFTWARE GIANTS IN THE GAMING BUSINESS.

PSN IS BLOWN INTO SMITHEREENS. IT DOES NOT STACK UP. BY THE TIMEIT FINALLY MATCHES UP THE 720 WILL BE OUT.

Yea the ps3 also has a blu-ray player standard and you can install ydl plus it's hard drive is bigger and upgradable making a better value than the 360 that just plays games imo. The fact that psn is free and lag free for free with free content is a huge bonus imo.

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#59 Ericvon71
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XBL: you can queue up to SIX (6) tasks to download, and go ahead doing ANYTHING on the 360 besides play online games (for obvious reasons). But it gets better folks! With the latest update, you can even TURN OFF YOUR 360 controller and console's main power and downloads will CONTINUE to go on (in the same fashion that the Wii is connected to the net using a miniscule amount of energy). When everything is completely downloaded, the 360 completely shuts itself off.

PSN: you can download a demo and navigate the PSN store at the same time. And that's about it.

 (note and this XBL's MINOR update vs PSN's MAJOR update.)

SEAL10304

Please.....Please, if you don't have a PS3 shut the @#$@ up! Because you are so far off base it isn't even funny. I am not saying that PSN is better because right now XBL is better, but it didn't start out that way, it had a grow to were it is now, so put the MS KOOL-AiD away and get you info together before posting!!!!!!

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#60 SEAL10304
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Hey, how long did it take for the 360 to come up with this? Let's see, 1 year about 5 months now. How long has the PS3 been out? About 6 months. I think that should end all arguments.BrownWalrus

You are a fool if you think you added anything intelligent at all. You honestly think the PS3 guys were just waiting around until November 2006 to start anything on the PS3? The fact is that the PS3 was delayed a year and was being worked on all this time while the 360 was out, then debuted with a highly INFERIOR service.

And what's this nonsense that people like you spout about giving the PS3 a break because it failed match its competitor after all this time? Are we supposed to give it a medal? If a car debuting in 2005 has a highly superior build and safety service to one that comes out 1 year later and at a much higher price, do you say "hey give the second car a chance to freaking catch up? If you download a trusted program (to burn CDs, make music) etc and it is much more fully featured than a similar program that comes out 1 year later, is more expensive and is barebones in comparison, do you go around on message boards advising people to get the 2nd or the 1st product?

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#61 PdIZZLE-PS3
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[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]Hey, how long did it take for the 360 to come up with this? Let's see, 1 year about 5 months now. How long has the PS3 been out? About 6 months. I think that should end all arguments.SEAL10304

You are a fool if you think you added anything intelligent at all. You honestly think the PS3 guys were just waiting around until November 2006 to start anything on the PS3? The fact is that the PS3 was delayed a year and was being worked on all this time while the 360 was out, then debuted with a highly INFERIOR service.

And what's this nonsense that people like you spout about giving the PS3 a break because it failed match its competitor after all this time? Are we supposed to give it a medal? If a car debuting in 2005 has a highly superior build and safety service to one that comes out 1 year later and at a much higher price, do you say "hey give the second car a chance to freaking catch up? If you download a trusted program (to burn CDs, make music) etc and it is much more fully featured than a similar program that comes out 1 year later, is more expensive and is barebones in comparison, do you go around on message boards advising people to get the 2nd or the 1st product?



HAHA your analogy is completly incorrect. It's more like saying I will buy the 2006 jaguar and be set for a long time instead of buying a cheaper Honda then have to buy add ons to make it run like the Jaguar which it still doesn't.
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#62 SEAL10304
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[QUOTE="ryder05"]But you have to pay for it on the 360. PS3 does it for freeBrooklynBomber

YOU PAID $600 FOR YOUR CONSOLE. THE 360 COSTS $400. ADD $50 FOR ONLINE EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS, WITH FEATUES AND SERVICES THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AT LEAST A YEAR AHEAD, MANAGED BY THE BEST SOFTWARE GIANTS IN THE GAMING BUSINESS.

PSN IS BLOWN INTO SMITHEREENS. IT DOES NOT STACK UP. BY THE TIMEIT FINALLY MATCHES UP THE 720 WILL BE OUT.

Yea the ps3 also has a blu-ray player standard and you can install ydl plus it's hard drive is bigger and upgradable making a better value than the 360 that just plays games imo. The fact that psn is free and lag free for free with free content is a huge bonus imo.

1) Most people who buy movies do not give a crap about Blu Ray. DVDs crush it completely, and when it subsides in a few years downloadable content will take over. Lauding Blu Ray or HD-DVD for ANY victory is laughable. As far as games development goes, it's more of a hindrance so far.

2) YDL and other forms of Linux have long since proven to run TERRIBLY on the PS3. It is a CHORE. Hell even loading it up takes long, and even then you can't really use it for anything much than surfing the net, which you can do on the PS3 browser anyway. It's a useless gimmick that no one uses seriously. PLEASE stop quoting it as an actual benefit of buying a $600 console.

3) The 360 has upgradable HD and the Elite has a 120G HD

4) PSN is lag free right now because there's barely any content and barely anyone using it. Remember how the servers crashed badly when the GT demo came out? The 360 runs on a much better service with at least 5 million multiplayer online users (not counting the silver users who download content as well). You better cross your fingers and hope that the PSN holds up when the traffic grows in a few years.

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XBL: you can queue up to SIX (6) tasks to download, and go ahead doing ANYTHING on the 360 besides play online games (for obvious reasons). But it gets better folks! With the latest update, you can even TURN OFF YOUR 360 controller and console's main power and downloads will CONTINUE to go on (in the same fashion that the Wii is connected to the net using a miniscule amount of energy). When everything is completely downloaded, the 360 completely shuts itself off.

PSN: you can download a demo and navigate the PSN store at the same time. And that's about it.

(note and this XBL's MINOR update vs PSN's MAJOR update.)

SEAL10304

It's official... the Xbox fanboys have officially run out of things to brag about. :roll: 

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#64 bkslayer
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What type of "fully-featured" background downloading the 360 had, that the PS3 dont, before this Spring update? If u think on the PS3 you cant queue 6 downloads and play games while downloading, then you need to do some research. XBL is better but dont make ridiculous claims without facts to back up.
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#65 SEAL10304
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[QUOTE="SEAL10304"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]Hey, how long did it take for the 360 to come up with this? Let's see, 1 year about 5 months now. How long has the PS3 been out? About 6 months. I think that should end all arguments.PdIZZLE-PS3

You are a fool if you think you added anything intelligent at all. You honestly think the PS3 guys were just waiting around until November 2006 to start anything on the PS3? The fact is that the PS3 was delayed a year and was being worked on all this time while the 360 was out, then debuted with a highly INFERIOR service.

And what's this nonsense that people like you spout about giving the PS3 a break because it failed match its competitor after all this time? Are we supposed to give it a medal? If a car debuting in 2005 has a highly superior build and safety service to one that comes out 1 year later and at a much higher price, do you say "hey give the second car a chance to freaking catch up? If you download a trusted program (to burn CDs, make music) etc and it is much more fully featured than a similar program that comes out 1 year later, is more expensive and is barebones in comparison, do you go around on message boards advising people to get the 2nd or the 1st product?



HAHA your analogy is completly incorrect. It's more like saying I will buy the 2006 jaguar and be set for a long time instead of buying a cheaper Honda then have to buy add ons to make it run like the Jaguar which it still doesn't.

Just about every dev has confirmed that the PS3 and 360 are comparable machines. They each have their advantages and disadvantages, but the machines are very similar. They are even closer than the PS2 and Xbox were in their time. You cows have this foolish notion that the PS3 is leagues beyond the 360 when it ISN'T in any tangable measure to the consumer, and it cetainly isn't $200 better. So no, you're the one who embarassed himself with the PS3 = posh Jaguar, 360 = cheap Honda analogy. Think before you post.

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#66 PdIZZLE-PS3
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[QUOTE="PdIZZLE-PS3"][QUOTE="SEAL10304"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]Hey, how long did it take for the 360 to come up with this? Let's see, 1 year about 5 months now. How long has the PS3 been out? About 6 months. I think that should end all arguments.SEAL10304

You are a fool if you think you added anything intelligent at all. You honestly think the PS3 guys were just waiting around until November 2006 to start anything on the PS3? The fact is that the PS3 was delayed a year and was being worked on all this time while the 360 was out, then debuted with a highly INFERIOR service.

And what's this nonsense that people like you spout about giving the PS3 a break because it failed match its competitor after all this time? Are we supposed to give it a medal? If a car debuting in 2005 has a highly superior build and safety service to one that comes out 1 year later and at a much higher price, do you say "hey give the second car a chance to freaking catch up? If you download a trusted program (to burn CDs, make music) etc and it is much more fully featured than a similar program that comes out 1 year later, is more expensive and is barebones in comparison, do you go around on message boards advising people to get the 2nd or the 1st product?



HAHA your analogy is completly incorrect. It's more like saying I will buy the 2006 jaguar and be set for a long time instead of buying a cheaper Honda then have to buy add ons to make it run like the Jaguar which it still doesn't.

Just about every dev has confirmed that the PS3 and 360 are comparable machines. They each have their advantages and disadvantages, but the machines are very similar. They are even closer than the PS2 and Xbox were in their time. You cows have this foolish notion that the PS3 is leagues beyond the 360 when it ISN'T in any tangable measure to the consumer, and it cetainly isn't $200 better. So no, you're the one who embarassed himself with the PS3 = posh Jaguar, 360 = cheap Honda analogy. Think before you post.


Yes they are almost exactly the same graphics wise. I'm talking hardware wise: I get a great system with standard hdd a built in blu-ray player wifi card readers  rechargeable controllers access to the web and the option of installing my own os. With the 360 i have to buy everything seperate: Wifi $$ bigger hdd $$ controller recharger $$ card reader $$ hd-dvd add $$ on... the list goes on. Im not saying you need everyone of these things but from a hardware point ps3 is just much better not to mention more reliable.
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i think it's funny that ps3 owners are saying things liek "we pay 0$ and you pay 50$ for the same thing, hahaha", but in actuality it is better as the interface is better, for example the whole friends thing. BUt ps3 people payed 600$ for a console with maybe 3 good game(idk give or take depending on your style) and that is compared to the 360 which is 400$ and has a multitude of great games, some even hailed as some of the best. cough..oblivion..cough...gears of war...cough..cough.  sorry, i have a cold
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#68 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"][QUOTE="rykaziel"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

You pay $50, we pay $0...your service should be much better.

SEAL10304

 

All of the new updates he mentioned do not require the Gold subscription. Therefore, we pay $0, you pay $0.

Ok, if you are gonna use that argument then since we both pay 0 for updates/access to store, with my 0 I can still play barely any games at all with PS2 like online features on crappy servers while you cannot.

Fixed.

WOw fanboy wow, RFOM Motorstorm and Socom all work fine...lame fanboy..

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is there any point in this, i mean we all know home isnt out yet, can it beat xbl, sure it can why cant it, who said you need to use the avitar for everything like you claim, and just cause xbl is out longer doesnt make it unbeatable, there is no logic in that. but on the other hand it can fail too, but we cant say it will and then POOF it fails, its not up to us. the only thing i see here is xbox fanboys that are afraid that it might be better and wont admit it, like it matters anyways, the online sevice shouldnt be a selling point for a gaming system. people the war hasnt started yet, get over it.
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#70 daveg1
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another great feature xbl has.....

sony need to take note.

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XBL: you can queue up to SIX (6) tasks to download, and go ahead doing ANYTHING on the 360 besides play online games (for obvious reasons). But it gets better folks! With the latest update, you can even TURN OFF YOUR 360 controller and console's main power and downloads will CONTINUE to go on (in the same fashion that the Wii is connected to the net using a miniscule amount of energy). When everything is completely downloaded, the 360 completely shuts itself off.

PSN: you can download a demo and navigate the PSN store at the same time. And that's about it.

(note and this XBL's MINOR update vs PSN's MAJOR update.)

SEAL10304

 

That is a sweet new update.  Can't wait to give it a shot. Any word on Forza 2 Demo?

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#72 druggyjoe3000
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you sony fanboys stop saying it took 18 months to get some features. well your damn consloe copyed them and at least are good consloe as good updates unlike a firewall update because they suck. if you really think about it the xbox live service is better and is getting better. in one year from now we will know that xbox live is better
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#73 TheSystemLord1
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[QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itmjarantilla

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there?  Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

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#74 helium_flash
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Uhm.. You can do anything but play games online when you backround dl stuff from PSN, not just "browse the PSN store" like you said.

Plus, 360 got this update 18 months after it came out. Whos to say that the PS3 wont have the same feature in the same amount of time?

SEAL10304

Huh? 18 months from now? And even if that happens, how far ahead do you think XBL will be in the same 18 months?

 

Face it, PSN is a freaking joke in comparison. Features, content, usability, you name it.

um... price????

That's where PSN has XBL beat, and i bet that when more people by PS3s, more people will play online also. 

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#75 Smakkjoo
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Honestly, all I ask for is to be able to play online and to have fun with no lag. I got it for free. Thats all I ask for lol.

 

I really don't care about features. 

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Ummm...PSN can queue downloads too..Kahuna_1
you obviously only read the first sentence. we can turn our 360's off and it downloads :P ahahah you lose again.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itTheSystemLord1

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there?  Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better
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#78 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itriver_rat3117

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?
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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itmjarantilla

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?

No, to come in to System Wars and argue about how awesome it is to Lems who will more than likely have a similar service by then (crazier things have happened *cough Resident Evil 5, GTA 4, Assassins Creed, Ace Combat 6, Devil May Cry 4, Virtua Fighter 5 going multi-plat and the 360 retaining 9/10 of its exclusives cough*.) When in reality cows don't even use it because its a game in and of itself and nobody should have to play 1 game in order to play others.

People also forget about this.  PSN is a free service right?  Where are the dedicated servers?  For Sony games yeah there will be servers, but where is the online for Virtua Tennis 3?  It isn't there?  No WAY! How could this HAPPEN!?  Oh that's right...Microsoft usues the monthly subscription to pay for dedicated gaming servers so that EVERY game has an online element of some kind, I can't name 1 game on the 360 that has no online multi-player where the genre would promote it.  I just named 1 on the PS3 within its first 8 months.

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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itmjarantilla

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?

but see thats the thing people are missing. you can get trophies, talk to people with your bluetooth headset, or join someones online game through it, but since it has people in it all you hear is that its a sims rip off or ohh wow i can walk around. i have used xbox live at a friends house and i still dont know much about but i would like to know why its better than home, but sadly i never get a good response since its from an xbox fanboy point of view and they refuse to point out anything good in home
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itriver_rat3117

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?

but see thats the thing people are missing. you can get trophies, talk to people with your bluetooth headset, or join someones online game through it, but since it has people in it all you hear is that its a sims rip off or ohh wow i can walk around. i have used xbox live at a friends house and i still dont know much about but i would like to know why its better than home, but sadly i never get a good response since its from an xbox fanboy point of view and they refuse to point out anything good in home

In other words: it's still no better than Xbox Live. And XBL still has the better Marketplace and Arcade, integrated IM service with Windows Messenger, and TV/movie downloads.
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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itmjarantilla

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?

but see thats the thing people are missing. you can get trophies, talk to people with your bluetooth headset, or join someones online game through it, but since it has people in it all you hear is that its a sims rip off or ohh wow i can walk around. i have used xbox live at a friends house and i still dont know much about but i would like to know why its better than home, but sadly i never get a good response since its from an xbox fanboy point of view and they refuse to point out anything good in home

In other words: it's still no better than Xbox Live. And XBL still has the better Marketplace and Arcade, integrated IM service with Windows Messenger, and TV/movie downloads.

but we dont know if home will have a good IM service or what kind of downloadable content they will have. i wish these topics would just die until home came out
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itriver_rat3117

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?

but see thats the thing people are missing. you can get trophies, talk to people with your bluetooth headset, or join someones online game through it, but since it has people in it all you hear is that its a sims rip off or ohh wow i can walk around. i have used xbox live at a friends house and i still dont know much about but i would like to know why its better than home, but sadly i never get a good response since its from an xbox fanboy point of view and they refuse to point out anything good in home

In other words: it's still no better than Xbox Live. And XBL still has the better Marketplace and Arcade, integrated IM service with Windows Messenger, and TV/movie downloads.

but we dont know if home will have a good IM service or what kind of downloadable content they will have. i wish these topics would just die until home came out

Who said Home will have ANY IM service or DL content at all? Home is supposed to be just a graphical extension of PSN; it's not supposed to have ITS OWN marketplace and whatnot. And I can pretty much guarantee you that Home will not integrate with any PC IM services like AIM or Yahoo the way the XBL does. Unless Sony's recently come out with a "Sony Messenger" and become one of the top 3 IM services without me knowing about it.
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xbox live is so much better than psn it's not even funny.
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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]

[QUOTE="Acenso"]Only Fanboys say PSN is better then XBL. That does not mean they can not prefer PSN since it is free over XBL. But to say PSN is better then XBL. Is kind of like saying Wii is more powerful then the PS3. Or PC costs 2000. Only blind fanboys say itmjarantilla

No, PSN owns XBL becuase of being free (it's a factor for sure) and because of Home. 3D world >>>>>>>>>>>> boring walls of text.

Why are you so excited for Home? Let's put it another way: Do YOU want to browse the internet using a 3D avatar all of the time? Or do you MAYBE think that it would get really annoying to have to control an avatar after a while just to do the most menial tasks? And XBL is free unless you want to play online, and let's face it, most people don't like to and don't want to play online.

No fanboys think of that little fact, they only think Home = ZOMG mine savior! Mine Furor!...No.

Say you are in the movie theater and want to show your friend your trophies...well let's hike ALL the way back to the apartment and go through my trophies...and then he wants to go to the arcade or whatever it is they have there? Let's hike ALL the way to the arcade...but he gets bored quick, lets hike ALL the way home and then select the game you want to play.

Home should be optional, its a cool idea, but so poorly thought out it astounds me.

WOW thanks for telling me exactly how it is before it even came out. no one knows whats its going to be like you dont know if you have to use the avitar for eveything. wow. get over it people, you can whine about it when it comes out but until then why spread lame rumors about it... unless your scared it might be better

If you don't use the avatar, then what's the point of Home? To walk around and look at stuff?

but see thats the thing people are missing. you can get trophies, talk to people with your bluetooth headset, or join someones online game through it, but since it has people in it all you hear is that its a sims rip off or ohh wow i can walk around. i have used xbox live at a friends house and i still dont know much about but i would like to know why its better than home, but sadly i never get a good response since its from an xbox fanboy point of view and they refuse to point out anything good in home

In other words: it's still no better than Xbox Live. And XBL still has the better Marketplace and Arcade, integrated IM service with Windows Messenger, and TV/movie downloads.

but we dont know if home will have a good IM service or what kind of downloadable content they will have. i wish these topics would just die until home came out

Who said Home will have ANY IM service or DL content at all? Home is supposed to be just a graphical extension of PSN; it's not supposed to have ITS OWN marketplace and whatnot. And I can pretty much guarantee you that Home will not integrate with any PC IM services like AIM or Yahoo the way the XBL does. Unless Sony's recently come out with a "Sony Messenger" and become one of the top 3 IM services without me knowing about it.

THATS MY POINT we dont know, so why say it will or it wont
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PSN queue is better than Live's but xbl is more polished but PSN is getting more powerful every update.
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and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be  acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.
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XBL: you can queue up to SIX (6) tasks to download, and go ahead doing ANYTHING on the 360 besides play online games (for obvious reasons). But it gets better folks! With the latest update, you can even TURN OFF YOUR 360 controller and console's main power and downloads will CONTINUE to go on (in the same fashion that the Wii is connected to the net using a miniscule amount of energy). When everything is completely downloaded, the 360 completely shuts itself off.

PSN: you can download a demo and navigate the PSN store at the same time. And that's about it.

 (note and this XBL's MINOR update vs PSN's MAJOR update.)

SEAL10304
Well with the PSN you can quene as many downloads as you want as well as play a game offline while you download. Also, you can help cure caner and various other diseases while you download :)
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and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.xboxps2cube
You don't watch anything for free on TV. You're bombarded by commercials and low quality OTA broadcasts, and/or you're paying for cable or satellite.
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#90 krp008
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i own both the 360 and PS3 and i love Live, but i dont get why Live costs money and PSN doesnt. All Live has over PSN is a universal friend's list... THATS IT! I dont get it. But then again Live has Halo 3 so i wont complain THAT much

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XBL is great and all but PSN is more than enough for me. All I want to do is play online, download demos, trailers and additional content for games. PSN does all of those just fine and I dont have to throw down 60 dollars a year for features I will never use. I rather have an online service that suits my needs for free so I can spend that extra $60 on something I find useful.
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[QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.mjarantilla
You don't watch anything for free on TV. You're bombarded by commercials and low quality OTA broadcasts, and/or you're paying for cable or satellite.

 

excuse to give M$ more money, I rather pay 40 a month for tv than 2-5 dollars here and there for a episode.... ill always get more for my money and I dont have to wait on a download.

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.xboxps2cube

You don't watch anything for free on TV. You're bombarded by commercials and low quality OTA broadcasts, and/or you're paying for cable or satellite.

 

excuse to give M$ more money, I rather pay 40 a month for tv than 2-5 dollars here and there for a episode.... ill always get more for my money and I dont have to wait on a download.

have fun waiting for a certain episode of South Park to air again!

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XBL is great and all but PSN is more than enough for me. All I want to do is play online, download demos, trailers and additional content for games. PSN does all of those just fine and I dont have to throw down 60 dollars a year for features I will never use. I rather have an online service that suits my needs for free so I can spend that extra $60 on something I find useful.MGS9150

lol have fun missing out when Halo 3 releases

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.xboxps2cube

You don't watch anything for free on TV. You're bombarded by commercials and low quality OTA broadcasts, and/or you're paying for cable or satellite.

excuse to give M$ more money, I rather pay 40 a month for tv than 2-5 dollars here and there for a episode.... ill always get more for my money and I dont have to wait on a download.

You realize that if that were the case, you'd probably be paying more per year than I would if I relied entirely on XBL? At least, for me, personally, I only watch a small handful of TV series (only about six or seven). And since a full TV season, or about 25 episodes, would cost only about $50-75 on XBL, I'd actually be paying only about 1/3 to 2/3 of what I normally pay for cable, since cable for me is about $50/month. The only downside is that XBL doesn't have all the series I watch yet (no Heroes, House, Lost, or Scrubs), but it's only a matter of time before it gets them.
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[QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.krp008

You don't watch anything for free on TV. You're bombarded by commercials and low quality OTA broadcasts, and/or you're paying for cable or satellite.

 

excuse to give M$ more money, I rather pay 40 a month for tv than 2-5 dollars here and there for a episode.... ill always get more for my money and I dont have to wait on a download.

have fun waiting for a certain episode of South Park to air again!

 Lmao, ill be fine TV is not mandatory all these features in the whole thread is not mandatory I got  a system to play games, not watch movies, aint this is what the whole blu ray argument is about? M$ is sneaky they micro trans you for the the movie or episode, this is very funny and fanboys are blind

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lol, have fun with the text.

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Uhm.. You can do anything but play games online when you backround dl stuff from PSN, not just "browse the PSN store" like you said.

Plus, 360 got this update 18 months after it came out. Whos to say that the PS3 wont have the same feature in the same amount of time?

asdasd

That's a bad argument. Both companies had the exact same amount of time to develop online features. The console release date does not impact features. For example, if Sony released the PS3 in 2008, would you excuse them for not having Xbox Live features? No. (Not to mention that the PS2 was released a year before Xbox 1, so Sony had an extra year to develop the PS3.) 

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[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"]and you jokers on live taunting that you get all these tv/ movie downloads, it'll be acold day in hell before I pay for something I can watch for free on tv.xboxps2cube

You don't watch anything for free on TV. You're bombarded by commercials and low quality OTA broadcasts, and/or you're paying for cable or satellite.

 

excuse to give M$ more money, I rather pay 40 a month for tv than 2-5 dollars here and there for a episode.... ill always get more for my money and I dont have to wait on a download.

have fun waiting for a certain episode of South Park to air again!

 Lmao, ill be fine TV is not mandatory all these features in the whole thread is not mandatory I got  a system to play games, not watch movies, aint this is what the whole blu ray argument is about? M$ is sneaky they micro trans you for the the movie or episode, this is very funny and fanboys are blind

dude, its an OPTIONAL feature! You DONT have to pay to own an episode or rent an HD movie... Why b*tch and moan about an optional feature?

And this isnt like the Blu-Ray argument. Sony is FORCING you to purchase a BR player, MS isnt

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#100 Ace_WondersX
Member since 2003 • 4455 Posts

PSN is so Genericbilling

True, and your sig is true too. It's good Microsoft knows who the real threat is.Â