xbox 1 is a beast.....it world linky inside..

http://m.itworld.com/hardware/371478/microsoft-emerges-cpu-force-xbox-one-and-kinect?mm_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fn4g.com%2Fnews%2F1353354%2Fmicrosoft-emerges-as-a-cpu-force-with-xbox-one-and-kinect

Good article

The chip will be manufactured by TSMC, not AMD's regular foundry partner Globalfoundaries. John Sell, the Xbox One's chip architect, said that the chance of defects was high because the chip was so complex, but Microsoft had designed in redundancies into the chip so that if one section was inoperable, it doesnt kill the whole chip and we don't have a return of the dreaded Red Ring of Death.

Still, it won't be easy for TSMC to crank out millions of these chips, and it has a similarly complex chip to make for Sony's PlayStation 4. The one good thing TSMC has going for it is it routinely makes chips this size for Nvidia, so it's worked out some of the bugs. But boy is that company going to be busy. TSMC makes the GPUs for Nvidia and AMD and is picking up Apple's business, plus these two consoles. That is going to be one seriously overloaded company. I'm not predicting a shortage of Xbox One and PlayStation 4 consoles this fall, but it wouldn't surprise me, either.

That bit is especially interesting. Tiawanese sweat shops working overtime to pump out all those chips!

http://m.itworld.com/hardware/371478/microsoft-emerges-cpu-force-xbox-one-and-kinect?mm_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fn4g.com%2Fnews%2F1353354%2Fmicrosoft-emerges-as-a-cpu-force-with-xbox-one-and-kinect

granddogg

It looks like a beast, if that's what you mean

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="granddogg"]

http://m.itworld.com/hardware/371478/microsoft-emerges-cpu-force-xbox-one-and-kinect?mm_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fn4g.com%2Fnews%2F1353354%2Fmicrosoft-emerges-as-a-cpu-force-with-xbox-one-and-kinect

delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="granddogg"]

http://m.itworld.com/hardware/371478/microsoft-emerges-cpu-force-xbox-one-and-kinect?mm_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fn4g.com%2Fnews%2F1353354%2Fmicrosoft-emerges-as-a-cpu-force-with-xbox-one-and-kinect

granddogg

inb4 tormentos :P

Not aiming this at the PS4, but in a way I think i'd rather have a balance shift edging towards cpu rather than gpu.

If you have a decent gpu and lower performance cpu you end up with something like the original Xbox or the Wii U. I don't just want games to look great, but I want them to have those awesome physics and smart ai, because that's where gameplay comes from and that's why I game.

XBone is a.........."meh"

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

:lol:Elegant use of a gif. I applaud you.

The one is like a fat kid who gets picked on all the time in school. The PS4 is like an all-star football player who's getting a free ride at a Ivy League school on a football scholarship. Yeah, not even comparable. Kjranu

The last time sony tried to design anything they almost went brankrupt lol

im glad they learnt their lesson and do what they do best...... copy others and build products with off the shelf parts.

XBOX ONE, a BEAST? lol, agree w/ Davekeeh:lol:

inb4 tormentos :P

HalcyonScarlet

inb4 tormentos :P

HalcyonScarlet

I got a warning for posting something like this,don't do it..

Yeah this forum has become this sensitive.

Not aiming this at the PS4, but in a way I think i'd rather have a balance shift edging towards cpu rather than gpu.

If you have a decent gpu and lower performance cpu you end up with something like the original Xbox or the Wii U. I don't just want games to look great, but I want them to have those awesome physics and smart ai, because that's where gameplay comes from and that's why I game.

HalcyonScarlet

And there is where the PS4 8 Aces,64 commands,volatile bit and compute customization kick in.

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU,in fact Physics on the GPU will run better than on the CPU while helping the CPU to have an esier time,and have more resources abailable.

Also on PS4 you can get the physics inside the frame in time.

Is  not been done now because launch games hardly ever go deep into hardware.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Not aiming this at the PS4, but in a way I think i'd rather have a balance shift edging towards cpu rather than gpu.

If you have a decent gpu and lower performance cpu you end up with something like the original Xbox or the Wii U. I don't just want games to look great, but I want them to have those awesome physics and smart ai, because that's where gameplay comes from and that's why I game.

tormentos

And there is where the PS4 8 Aces,64 commands,volatile bit and compute customization kick in.

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU,in fact Physics on the GPU will run better than on the CPU while helping the CPU to have an esier time,and have more resources abailable.

Also on PS4 you can get the physics inside the frame in time.

Is  not been done now because launch games hardly ever go deep into hardware.

I don't think anyone expected Sony would put a weak CPU in.

Although they're putting the option in to offload, I don't think they'll need to use it. Maybe just to add extra effects like PhysX, but they have enough cpu otherwise.

Us in teh know, don't call it teh MonsterBox for nothin ya know. :P

It says that Xbox will rival the likes of Intel and Texas Instruments...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

Man, is that a marketing piece, or what?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

Good article

The chip will be manufactured by TSMC, not AMD's regular foundry partner Globalfoundaries. John Sell, the Xbox One's chip architect, said that the chance of defects was high because the chip was so complex, but Microsoft had designed in redundancies into the chip so that if one section was inoperable, it doesnt kill the whole chip and we don't have a return of the dreaded Red Ring of Death.

Still, it won't be easy for TSMC to crank out millions of these chips, and it has a similarly complex chip to make for Sony's PlayStation 4. The one good thing TSMC has going for it is it routinely makes chips this size for Nvidia, so it's worked out some of the bugs. But boy is that company going to be busy. TSMC makes the GPUs for Nvidia and AMD and is picking up Apple's business, plus these two consoles. That is going to be one seriously overloaded company. I'm not predicting a shortage of Xbox One and PlayStation 4 consoles this fall, but it wouldn't surprise me, either.

That bit is especially interesting. Tiawanese sweat shops working overtime to pump out all those chips!

R3FURBISHED

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Not aiming this at the PS4, but in a way I think i'd rather have a balance shift edging towards cpu rather than gpu.

If you have a decent gpu and lower performance cpu you end up with something like the original Xbox or the Wii U. I don't just want games to look great, but I want them to have those awesome physics and smart ai, because that's where gameplay comes from and that's why I game.

tormentos

And there is where the PS4 8 Aces,64 commands,volatile bit and compute customization kick in.

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU,in fact Physics on the GPU will run better than on the CPU while helping the CPU to have an esier time,and have more resources abailable.

Also on PS4 you can get the physics inside the frame in time.

Is  not been done now because launch games hardly ever go deep into hardware.

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Heil68

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

ronvalencia

Hmm, I wonder how Kinect is able to beam form audio and how that will affect the quality of the mic, cause kinect 1 had a craptastic mic that had nothign but room and game echo.

[QUOTE="Kjranu"]The one is like a fat kid who gets picked on all the time in school. The PS4 is like an all-star football player who's getting a free ride at a Ivy League school on a football scholarship. Yeah, not even comparable. MBirdy88

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

OK, I don't agree with you, but that was a pretty damn awesome response...

It says that Xbox will rival the likes of Intel and Texas Instruments...

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

 

Man, is that a marketing piece, or what?

Kinthalis

[QUOTE="Kjranu"]The one is like a fat kid who gets picked on all the time in school. The PS4 is like an all-star football player who's getting a free ride at a Ivy League school on a football scholarship. Yeah, not even comparable. MBirdy88

You must non-American or ignorant and maybe both if you don't know what an Ivy League school is.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

trying to hard just let it go..PS4 is more powerful..M$ need to stop talkin it makes them  too desperate ..Developers got the real say on it and many come out already telling everyone PS4 have a lot of raw power and its faster..

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

LOL!! Stupid cows.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

inb4 tormentos :P

tormentos

I got a warning for posting something like this,don't do it..

Yeah this forum has become this sensitive.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Not aiming this at the PS4, but in a way I think i'd rather have a balance shift edging towards cpu rather than gpu.

If you have a decent gpu and lower performance cpu you end up with something like the original Xbox or the Wii U. I don't just want games to look great, but I want them to have those awesome physics and smart ai, because that's where gameplay comes from and that's why I game.

tormentos

And there is where the PS4 8 Aces,64 commands,volatile bit and compute customization kick in.

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU,in fact Physics on the GPU will run better than on the CPU while helping the CPU to have an esier time,and have more resources abailable.

Also on PS4 you can get the physics inside the frame in time.

Is  not been done now because launch games hardly ever go deep into hardware.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Not aiming this at the PS4, but in a way I think i'd rather have a balance shift edging towards cpu rather than gpu.

If you have a decent gpu and lower performance cpu you end up with something like the original Xbox or the Wii U. I don't just want games to look great, but I want them to have those awesome physics and smart ai, because that's where gameplay comes from and that's why I game.

Tighaman

And there is where the PS4 8 Aces,64 commands,volatile bit and compute customization kick in.

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU,in fact Physics on the GPU will run better than on the CPU while helping the CPU to have an esier time,and have more resources abailable.

Also on PS4 you can get the physics inside the frame in time.

Is  not been done now because launch games hardly ever go deep into hardware.

link please? when did he say this? 

and okay, ps4 is a beast at synchronous compute compared to Xbox One, ps4 will be much better at compute then the One... 

the Xbox One will have less then one teraflop of graphics rendering power if it wants to ever try and match ps4 in Compute

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

PS4 will slay the beast with relative ease

Davekeeh

 

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU

tormentos

What several other tasks?  There are some tasks for which a GPU will NOT do a better job vs a CPU. 

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

The PS4 can use compute to run physics and several other task done by CPU

Kinthalis

What several other tasks?  There are some tasks for which a GPU will NOT do a better job vs a CPU. 

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Wow, just wow.SexyJazzCat

:lol:Elegant use of a gif. I applaud you.