Xbox 360 1080p. not so 1080p for real?

Hey people i am a new poster here at gamespot.

I wonted to talk about the 1080p res that is on the 360. I have a ps3 and a 360, and for some reason when i play games on my 360 in 1080p the games textures are blurry, ala nba street, and virtua tennis 3. and for some reason the games speed slows down a bit. With every game i play on my 360 in 1080p, it appears thatthe screen is just getting streched from a 720p res. upsclose it dosnt even look like the picture gets any better.

But when i play virtua tennis and nba  street on my ps3, the games look crsip, and there is no slow down, and the game actually fits to the screen like it was a 720p game. and the game actually looks beter in 1080p. the only game that dose not look quite so good in 1080p is virtua fighter 4, which dose exactly what the 360 games are doing, looks blurry, and runs a lil slow. the same happened with sonic on ps3.

 this is when  i really thought of it, the ps3 is doing games in native 1080p while the 360 is doing games upscaled to 1080p. and games like vf5,and sonic on ps3 are also upscalling while games like vt3, nba street, nba 2k7, gthd,tekken dr, are all natively 1080. this puts me atthe conclusion that the 360 can not do true 1080p, but can blow up the picture to supportthe 1080p screen, but its being upscaled. But it seems like the ps3 was built for 1080p games, and can push that res natively, with no hassel atall.

also ps, did any one notcie while playing vt3 in 480p that the cutscens runs fast, but while playing the game in 720p, or 1080p the cutscens are very slow like there going in slow motion r somthing., this happens on both system. 

Why do you people make new accounts just to post stuff like this?Sooshy

Hey people i am a new poster here at gamespot.

 

I wonted to talk about the 1080p res that is on the 360. I have a ps3 and a 360, and for some reason when i play games on my 360 in 1080p the games textures are blurry, ala nba street, and virtua tennis 3. and for some reason the games speed slows down a bit. With every game i play on my 360 in 1080p, it appears thatthe screen is just getting streched from a 720p res. upsclose it dosnt even look like the picture gets any better.

But when i play virtua tennis and nba  street on my ps3, the games look crsip, and there is no slow down, and the game actually fits to the screen like it was a 720p game. and the game actually looks beter in 1080p. the only game that dose not look quite so good in 1080p is virtua fighter 4, which dose exactly what the 360 games are doing, looks blurry, and runs a lil slow. the same happened with sonic on ps3.

 this is when  i really thought of it, the ps3 is doing games in native 1080p while the 360 is doing games upscaled to 1080p. and games like vf5,and sonic on ps3 are also upscalling while games like vt3, nba street, nba 2k7, gthd,tekken dr, are all natively 1080. this puts me atthe conclusion that the 360 can not do true 1080p, but can blow up the picture to supportthe 1080p screen, but its being upscaled. But it seems like the ps3 was built for 1080p games, and can push that res natively, with no hassel atall.

 

 

also ps, did any one notcie while playing vt3 in 480p that the cutscens runs fast, but while playing the game in 720p, or 1080p the cutscens are very slow like there going in slow motion r somthing., this happens on both system. 

MultiplateOwner

Why do you people make new accounts just to post stuff like this?Sooshy

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The 360 is perfectly capable of running 1080p through VGA or HDMI output. It's up to the developerr whether they set the 360 version at a native 720p or 1080p. If they set it at native 720p, then it would appear like you said, stretched or slightly blurry. If they code it natively at 1080p, then there would be no reason for such issues. Damare

ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.shsonline

All of my 360 games look better when i play it at 1080p, i notice no blury textures or slower framerates. but i have yet to play VT3 on my 360 and PS3 so i cant make a direct comparison, and the only games i have played on my PS3 besides demos are RFOM and Flow, i still have to get my hands on MotorstormMerek16

[QUOTE="Merek16"]All of my 360 games look better when i play it at 1080p, i notice no blury textures or slower framerates. but i have yet to play VT3 on my 360 and PS3 so i cant make a direct comparison, and the only games i have played on my PS3 besides demos are RFOM and Flow, i still have to get my hands on Motorstormdanneswegman

[QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.danneswegman

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively? 

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.shsonline

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively? 

How about Virtua Tennis 3?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12680

[QUOTE="shsonline"]

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.bdever32

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively?

How about Virtua Tennis 3?

[QUOTE="shsonline"]

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.bdever32

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively?

How about Virtua Tennis 3?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12680

Oho you are so lucky. That was the FIRST and ONLY game made thats a native 1080p game and it was only just recently made. lol. Okay, you got me on a technicality, but that's it. Theres no other native 1080p game out and that's because 720p is the standard that hd games use for now and at least for a while. I was only making a point to this TC trying to claim that ps3 games looked better than 360 games because they could magically do 1080p natively while 360 couldn't. They don't even make games in 1080p! (well except for that vt3 game and I think like one other game, but that's it). 

[QUOTE="bdever32"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.MultiplateOwner

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively?

How about Virtua Tennis 3?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12680

not really 

[QUOTE="bdever32"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.shsonline

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively?

How about Virtua Tennis 3?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12680

Oho you are so lucky. That was the FIRST and ONLY game made thats a native 1080p game and it was only just recently made. lol. Okay, you got me on a technicality, but that's it. Theres no other native 1080p game out and that's because 720p is the standard that hd games use for now and at least for a while. I was only making a point to this TC trying to claim that ps3 games looked better than 360 games because they could magically do 1080p natively while 360 couldn't. They don't even make games in 1080p! (well except for that vt3 game and I think like one other game, but that's it). 

[QUOTE="bdever32"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.shsonline

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively?

How about Virtua Tennis 3?

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12680

Oho you are so lucky. That was the FIRST and ONLY game made thats a native 1080p game and it was only just recently made. lol. Okay, you got me on a technicality, but that's it. Theres no other native 1080p game out and that's because 720p is the standard that hd games use for now and at least for a while. I was only making a point to this TC trying to claim that ps3 games looked better than 360 games because they could magically do 1080p natively while 360 couldn't. They don't even make games in 1080p! (well except for that vt3 game and I think like one other game, but that's it).

Yes 360 upscales, ive said this all ALONG...mrboo15

Wrong. The 360 does NOT upscale NBA street or Virtua Tennis 3 and from what I've heard (you know, from professional reviewers), the 360 runs both games smoother than the PS3.

Get your facts straight. :|

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Yes 360 upscales, ive said this all ALONG...The_Game21x

Wrong. The 360 does NOT upscale NBA street or Virtua Tennis 3 and from what I've heard (you know, from professional reviewers), the 360 runs both games smoother than the PS3.

Get your facts straight. :|

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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GermanShepard06

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]Yes 360 upscales, ive said this all ALONG...MultiplateOwner

Wrong. The 360 does NOT upscale NBA street or Virtua Tennis 3 and from what I've heard (you know, from professional reviewers), the 360 runs both games smoother than the PS3.

Get your facts straight. :|

Sorry dude, but I'd trust the word of several professional reviewers over the word of some random forumgoer. The professionals have considerable credibility when it comes to matters such as these. You, on the other hand, do not.

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="Merek16"]All of my 360 games look better when i play it at 1080p, i notice no blury textures or slower framerates. but i have yet to play VT3 on my 360 and PS3 so i cant make a direct comparison, and the only games i have played on my PS3 besides demos are RFOM and Flow, i still have to get my hands on MotorstormMultiplateOwner

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"]ALL games are upscaled to 1080p.shsonline

Why don't you give me a link or prove where a game is made in 1080 p natively? 

[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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The_Game21x

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

lol. that was pretty funny.  

[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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The_Game21x

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

not on ps3, everything stays in tack. while on 360, the games slows down and graphics geta lil blurry and streached, even the dashbourd looks streachedMultiplateOwner

Do you have a HDTV that accepts 1080p via component?  Not many do....Or are you using VGA?

BTW,  a 720p image being upscaled to 1080p does not give a performance hit,  the performance hit would come going from 720p native to 1080p native.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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danneswegman

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

lol. teh blu ray is a better format than teh hdmi 

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Why do you people make new accounts just to post stuff like this?MultiplateOwner

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Why do you people make new accounts just to post stuff like this?MultiplateOwner

Yeah i do have a problem with it,  you really expect people to believe that your new here,  and your first post is going to be about bit***** about upscaled 360 games?  you really expect us to believe you own Virtua Tennis and NBA Street for both PS3 and 360?   Be a man,  post with your original screen name..

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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danneswegman

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

it appears you two cant read what i said. I never said you cant have 1080p, but you cant have TRUE NATIVE RESOLUTION OF 1080p without HDMI.

Why you think MS is releasing x360 elite with hdmi? just to piss you off more?

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[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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shsonline

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

lol. teh blu ray is a better format than teh hdmi 

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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GermanShepard06

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

it appears you two cant read what i said. I never said you cant have 1080p, but you cant have TRUE NATIVE RESOLUTION OF 1080p without HDMI.

Why you think MS is releasing x360 elite with hdmi? just to piss you off more?

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Hey people i am a new poster here at gamespot.

 

I wonted to talk about the 1080p res that is on the 360. I have a ps3 and a 360, and for some reason when i play games on my 360 in 1080p the games textures are blurry, ala nba street, and virtua tennis 3. and for some reason the games speed slows down a bit. With every game i play on my 360 in 1080p, it appears thatthe screen is just getting streched from a 720p res. upsclose it dosnt even look like the picture gets any better.

But when i play virtua tennis and nba  street on my ps3, the games look crsip, and there is no slow down, and the game actually fits to the screen like it was a 720p game. and the game actually looks beter in 1080p. the only game that dose not look quite so good in 1080p is virtua fighter 4, which dose exactly what the 360 games are doing, looks blurry, and runs a lil slow. the same happened with sonic on ps3.

 this is when  i really thought of it, the ps3 is doing games in native 1080p while the 360 is doing games upscaled to 1080p. and games like vf5,and sonic on ps3 are also upscalling while games like vt3, nba street, nba 2k7, gthd,tekken dr, are all natively 1080. this puts me atthe conclusion that the 360 can not do true 1080p, but can blow up the picture to supportthe 1080p screen, but its being upscaled. But it seems like the ps3 was built for 1080p games, and can push that res natively, with no hassel atall.

 

 

also ps, did any one notcie while playing vt3 in 480p that the cutscens runs fast, but while playing the game in 720p, or 1080p the cutscens are very slow like there going in slow motion r somthing., this happens on both system. 

MultiplateOwner

I love how you try and come off as being unbiased, but so far you have only posted in threads that have bashed the 360, including creating this one.

Very convincing.

[QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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danneswegman

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

lol. teh blu ray is a better format than teh hdmi 

im going shopping today and ill be looking for 1080p movies on a dvd format, wish me luck.

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="shsonline"][QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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GermanShepard06

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

lol. teh blu ray is a better format than teh hdmi 

im going shopping today and ill be looking for 1080p movies on a dvd format, wish me luck.

Why don't you treat yourself to a good AAA Ps3 exclusive game while you are at the store?  Why not?  You deserve it.

oh wait...

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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GermanShepard06

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

it appears you two cant read what i said. I never said you cant have 1080p, but you cant have TRUE NATIVE RESOLUTION OF 1080p without HDMI.

Why you think MS is releasing x360 elite with hdmi? just to piss you off more?

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Dude...you have no idea what your talking about,  so long as the HDTV can do 1080p via component,  then the game will play in 1080p via component.  Alot of new HDTV's can do 1080p via component,  but not many people have brand spankin new HDTV's.

im going shopping today and ill be looking for 1080p movies on a dvd format, wish me luck.GermanShepard06

You see this Samsung 1080p does not accept 1080p via component.

http://www.shentech.com/hlr5078wdh.html

But this Samsung 1080p HDTV does accept 1080p via component.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-jx6fpDaxdNa/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=305HLS5088

Ahh yes,  now you can STFU German

[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]im going shopping today and ill be looking for 1080p movies on a dvd format, wish me luck.danneswegman

what im trying to say? ill tell you what im trying to say. You can have a Tennis game on x360 at 1080p or any small type of game like that but you will never have a real big game at 1080p cuz you got a ten year old dvd format inside ur x360. Like what TC has said, even the tennis game looks bad still without the hdmi.

 accept the facts...

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

u cant have true native 1080p without hdmi.

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GermanShepard06

And this post shows that you have no idea what you're taling about. :|

it appears you two cant read what i said. I never said you cant have 1080p, but you cant have TRUE NATIVE RESOLUTION OF 1080p without HDMI.

Why you think MS is releasing x360 elite with hdmi? just to piss you off more?

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It's amazing how people talk about 1080p so much and absolutely have no idea what it actually is. It's just a resolution. It's not even the most important factor in having a good picture on your TV.

You see this Samsung 1080p does not accept 1080p via component.

http://www.shentech.com/hlr5078wdh.html

But this Samsung 1080p HDTV does accept 1080p via component.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-jx6fpDaxdNa/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=305HLS5088

 

Ahh yes,  now you can STFU German

m3Boarder32

rofl, rofl. wow. This is not about TV's. sooo now all of a sudden u saying that you can watch 1080p movies on ur dvd player from that Samsung via compnent?

you people in here are trully lost, i dont even know why i even bother talking to u, its like talking to a brick wall. I dont care if ur tv does 3080p so what? ur using a dvd format and the real 1080p material eats up gigs like a hungry lion.

why do some of you think HDMI is the best way to go?

a) it's been proven through and through that VGA/DVI can produce better images.

b) in some situations and with the right cables you can get a better image with component.

c) HDMI is built for content protection and will eventually screw you down the road if you ever try to watch a burned / archived disc.

lots of misinformation on these boards, and misconceptions.