Xbox 360 1080p streaming and it only takes 4MB of bandwith???

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

PublicNuisance

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

PublicNuisance

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

salxis

I mean that upscaled trash they call 1080P when it is usually a ative reoslution of 720P or lower.

Watching Transformers in low bitrate 1080p with stereo sound, I can't wait!!!

Eh, I heard it was crappy on a slower connection. Kotaku had an article up I believe.RideUrLightning

Well, Duuuuh!!

that's just awesome. *waits for ps3 fans to downplay this*Mystery_Writer

Do they need to?

Pretty evident that MS is doing this exactly because they don't have blu-ray.

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

wooooode

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]that's just awesome. *waits for ps3 fans to downplay this*Oresome

Do they need to?

Pretty evident that MS is doing this exactly because they don't have blu-ray.

Is that 4 MB correct? If so, I guess I'll have to wait for fiber-optic or the cable companies to increase their bandwith. I thought I was doing decent at 8 Mb, but if this requires 32 Mb, not many people in the US will have it...

[QUOTE="wooooode"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

mythrol

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/check-out-1080p-smooth-streaming-now

http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming1080p

Dont believe the hype.."thanks ChukD"..If you could take the video and check its "true" specs, you would see its downgraded 1080p. I dont care what im being told..You do not stream TRUE 1080p HD with consumer grade "so called" hi speed internet...period.

Obviously it'll be compressed to hell but it'll still be good enough for the majority of people.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/check-out-1080p-smooth-streaming-now

http://www.iis.net/media/experiencesmoothstreaming1080p

mirautaj

Ok, a 5Mb cap makes much more sense with current internet access.

For comparison's sake, my own SD streams encoded in H.264 with 5.1 AAC run about 1-2 Mbps with peaks at 3-4Mbps during heavy scenes.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]that's just awesome. *waits for ps3 fans to downplay this*Oresome

Do they need to?

Pretty evident that MS is doing this exactly because they don't have blu-ray.

so it's not a cool because you believe the intentions behind it related to MS not having blu-ray drive in X360?

or not cool because you believe instant digital delivery of HD movies / tv series somehow already magically available in blu ray drives?

You can encode crappy Youtube videos to 1080p. What i care about is the bit rate which i doubt would be high. I will stick to blu-ray since it offers un-parallel audio and video

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

wooooode

wow I have FIOS so watching this Native 1080P will be better than watching a blu ray that costs 35 bucks. Once again MS delivers. Its good to be a Lem. The first 1080P streaming service, oh yeahhhhhhhhhhh

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p streaming Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

HD-DVD, DL Movies, Netflix, and 360 1080p Movies! are just ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's...but if they fell they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

SolidTy

no denying that it is a good feature. I personally love it since I have Fios 35/20 connection....

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-Ray Movie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt.

PrimusGears

no denying that it is a good feature. I personally love it since I have Fios 35/20 connection....

No, it's a good thing, absolutely. It's the confused, young gamers that try to compare it to Blu-Ray that need to stop. However, as far just looking at this as a neat feature...absolutely. There is no need to compare, but if comparison's are to be made, obviously Blu-Ray wins hands down.

I see a lot of posters try to misinform, and some do it unintentionally as they were misinformed by CLEVER Marketing, so I like to bring at least some information to SW.

Is that 4 MB correct? If so, I guess I'll have to wait for fiber-optic or the cable companies to increase their bandwith. I thought I was doing decent at 8 Mb, but if this requires 32 Mb, not many people in the US will have it...

asylumni

[QUOTE="asylumni"]

Is that 4 MB correct? If so, I guess I'll have to wait for fiber-optic or the cable companies to increase their bandwith. I thought I was doing decent at 8 Mb, but if this requires 32 Mb, not many people in the US will have it...

Vadamee

The article says 4 MB (big B). Big B equals bytes, not bits. 4MB = 32Mb

"While Microsoft is not yet giving out a lot of details on how the Zune video technology makes all this possible, they have stated that it only takes about 4MB of bandwidth to be able to get 1080p streaming."

So unless you get 32 Mb on this (www.speedtest.net), you aren't fast enough.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-Ray Movie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt.

SolidTy

no denying that it is a good feature. I personally love it since I have Fios 35/20 connection....

No, it's a good thing, absolutely. It's the confused, young gamers that try to compare it to Blu-Ray that need to stop. However, as far just looking at this as a neat feature...absolutely. There is no need to compare, but if comparison's are to be made, obviously Blu-Ray wins hands down.

I see a lot of posters try to misinform, and some do it unintentionally as they were misinformed by CLEVER Marketing, so I like to bring at least some information to SW.

Honestly when you compare a full blu ray disc to a ripped blu ray mkv with a lower bitrate the difference is really small.

[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="asylumni"]

Is that 4 MB correct? If so, I guess I'll have to wait for fiber-optic or the cable companies to increase their bandwith. I thought I was doing decent at 8 Mb, but if this requires 32 Mb, not many people in the US will have it...

The article says 4 MB (big B). Big B equals bytes, not bits. 4MB = 32Mb

"While Microsoft is not yet giving out a lot of details on how the Zune video technology makes all this possible, they have stated that it only takes about 4MB of bandwidth to be able to get 1080p streaming."

So unless you get 32 Mb on this (www.speedtest.net), you aren't fast enough.

[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="asylumni"]

Is that 4 MB correct? If so, I guess I'll have to wait for fiber-optic or the cable companies to increase their bandwith. I thought I was doing decent at 8 Mb, but if this requires 32 Mb, not many people in the US will have it...

SageJMP

The article says 4 MB (big B). Big B equals bytes, not bits. 4MB = 32Mb

"While Microsoft is not yet giving out a lot of details on how the Zune video technology makes all this possible, they have stated that it only takes about 4MB of bandwidth to be able to get 1080p streaming."

So unless you get 32 Mb on this (www.speedtest.net), you aren't fast enough.

[QUOTE="wooooode"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Is this the same 1080P that most of their games use ?

PrimusGears

wow I have FIOS so watching this Native 1080P will be better than watching a blu ray that costs 35 bucks. Once again MS delivers. Its good to be a Lem. The first 1080P streaming service, oh yeahhhhhhhhhhh

Thats cool but blu-ray is better still

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

HD-DVD, DL Movies, Netflix, and 360 1080p Movies! are just ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's...but if they fell they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

PrimusGears

no denying that it is a good feature. I personally love it since I have Fios 35/20 connection....

You mean mom & dad have that service that you enjoy right?

Yeah it is most likely upscaled through the console and you will not get true HD audio, I am sure it is good but not the true HD experience.wooooode

wow I have FIOS so watching this Native 1080P will be better than watching a blu ray that costs 35 bucks. Once again MS delivers. Its good to be a Lem. The first 1080P streaming service, oh yeahhhhhhhhhhh

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

wow I have FIOS so watching this Native 1080P will be better than watching a blu ray that costs 35 bucks. Once again MS delivers. Its good to be a Lem. The first 1080P streaming service, oh yeahhhhhhhhhhh

Shattered007

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]Who said it was native 1080p? It has less bitrate than a dvd and with 1080p resolution. It's a trick!!! Yeeey, we're going back in time. Back to crappy picture with stereo sound. Remember that a nice looking 1080p movie rip range from 8GB and up, mostly it's around 12GB. Try streaming that with 4Mb.Martin_G_N

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]Who said it was native 1080p? It has less bitrate than a dvd and with 1080p resolution. It's a trick!!! Yeeey, we're going back in time. Back to crappy picture with stereo sound. Remember that a nice looking 1080p movie rip range from 8GB and up, mostly it's around 12GB. Try streaming that with 4Mb.Martin_G_N

YES it is native 1080p which means the video resolution is 1920x1080. However it probably doesn't have 5.1 audio and the bitrate is lower, just like a ripped blu ray mkv.

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

WilliamRLBaker

You are speaking the truth here. Whether M$ can deliver this or not is irrelevant at this time. Most users cannot enjoy this with their TV's or surround sound. Or should I say lack of proper TV's & surround sound.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

anarchist4eva

You are speaking the truth here. Whether M$ can deliver this or not is irrelevant at this time. Most users cannot enjoy this with their TV's or surround sound. Or should I say lack of proper TV's & surround sound.

Speak for yourself everyone I know owns a 1080p tv. In Europe the HD craze came in pretty late and by then 1080p tv's were really cheap.

and now 360 1080p Movies!SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is just marketing to get snappy soundbites to the consumer like 1080p, negating the need for Blu-Ray to the average joe.

It's cool feature, but anyone actually thinking that 360 1080p streaming = Blu-RayMovie Quality needs to do some research. That's just funny.

We've seen M$ respond to Blu-Ray this entire generation :

HD-DVD,

DL Movies,

Netflix,

and now 360 1080p streaming Movies!

These are all ways of distracting the consumer away from Blu-Ray Movie Market.

All of these were just incomplete ways of letting the consumer feel like they are NOT missing out on their HDTV's. It does the job, but their HDTV's are being underused.

If these consumers feel they can use 1080p streaming on their 1080p HDTV's...then they need to actually look into Blu-Ray.

This will be great way to sell some machines, and it's a cool feature for folks that buy movies anyways, no doubt. :)

DonPerian

I hope you didn't lose the context of my entire post, because I was referring to the TITLE of this thread, which is about the "Streaming aspect".

I was talking about streaming the whole time. ;) I actually simplified my response to keep it short.

Every other point you made I covered in the deleted portion of my original post. For fear of REDUNDANCY, yes this is a good thing, No it's not better than Blu-Ray. We shouldn't compare the two. Posters here are comparing, so that's where I came in.;)