Xbox 360 Elite hardware is completely different !!!! no more overheats and RED L

Llamma.com goes inside the new Xbox 360 Elite; Exposes New Motherboard

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/news/inside_the_xbox_360_elite.htm

look and whip PS3 fanatics ;P

It really shows that the origanal console was insanely rushed and faulty if they can improve it that much.nickmag

Agreed.

To bad your getting milked to buy the same system again, because the first one is red rings of death junk.tmac2gooden

[QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]To bad your getting milked to buy the same system again, because the first one is red rings of death junk.Cazzidy_basic

dont be surprised if SONY RELEASES ANOTHER SKU for the Panasonic 3do I MEAN Playstation 3

[QUOTE="nickmag"]It really shows that the origanal console was insanely rushed and faulty if they can improve it that much.CB4McGusto

Agreed.

And a year from now they could improve it even more if they want to. That's what happens in technology all the time - improvements are always made. 

We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.Zhengi

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.tango90101

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.tango90101

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

Sorry, HD. The Xbox 360 is the console with the high defect rate... the one with the loud fan, the overheating, and the 3 red lights of death.

The PS3 actually turned out to be a high-quality product, despite all the claims you made otherwise. :lol: 

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.Zhengi

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

the point is it's silly calling a unit "shoddy" when other consoles have problems as well.

it's weird..you sure defend the ps3 a lot for not having one.... 

odd...

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.Dire_Weasel

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

Sorry, HD. The Xbox 360 is the console with the high defect rate... the one with the loud fan, the overheating, and the 3 red lights of death.

The PS3 actually turned out to be a high-quality product, despite all the claims you made otherwise. :lol: 

not according to many ps3 owners who are experiencing overheaqting and loud whining coming from the ps3...;)

ps... 5% is not high defective rate for new consumer electronics...

it makes you wonder tho; with the 360 only at 5%, while sony was sued successfully for shoddy hardware, it seems to me the ps2 is the one to watch since sony has a HISTORY of shoddy hardware...;)

ps...i didn't make the claims... the ps3 owners did... ;)

edit: im out for the weekend... enjoy..

btw; do a google for HD DVD and Europe... see what you find...:D

have a great weekend!

Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Oemenia

 seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT 

It really shows that the origanal console was insanely rushed and faulty if they can improve it that much.nickmag

ps... 5% is not high defective rate for new consumer electronics...

it makes you wonder tho; with the 360 only at 5%, while sony was sued successfully for shoddy hardware, it seems to me the ps2 is the one to watch since sony has a HISTORY of shoddy hardware...;)

tango90101

A 5% defect rate is HUGE for the first year, HD... especially compared the the smooth launch of the PS3.

And thanks for bringing up the PS2, but we're talking about the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Try to stay on topic, Ok? 

[QUOTE="Oemenia"]Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Cazzidy_basic

seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT

You're thanking Microsoft because you have to buy a new $480 console? Congratulations, you're the perfect Microsoft consumer. :roll: 

[QUOTE="Oemenia"]Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Cazzidy_basic

seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Oemenia"]Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Dire_Weasel

seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT

You're thanking Microsoft because you have to buy a new $480 console? Congratulations, you're the perfect Microsoft consumer. :roll:

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.tango90101

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

the point is it's silly calling a unit "shoddy" when other consoles have problems as well.

it's weird..you sure defend the ps3 a lot for not having one.... 

odd...

don't listen to tango... he's the biggest XBOT alive. tango just can't accept the fact that the XBOX360 has the worst failure rate in the current gen systems, and since the hardware is practically the same in the Elite, I wouldn't blame anyone for being skeptical.

"One a side note, we all had a good belly laugh here at the shop when we saw Microsoft's most creative measures to minimize the dreaded Xbox 360 3 flashing red lights "ring of death" error caused by poor BGA connections of the CPU and GPU. It seems that that the good ol' a dab will do ya methodology applies here. Take a look at the epoxy surrounding the CPU and GPU which is intended to prevent the BGA connection from popping as the board warps. This has to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Will it do the job, I have my doubts, but it will remain to be seen. It certainly seems like taking the easy way out instead of fixing the real problem."

Doesn't sound too great to me, though I'll still get the elite, but this will definitely make me wait and see what happens...

[QUOTE="nickmag"]It really shows that the origanal console was insanely rushed and faulty if they can improve it that much.CB4McGusto

Agreed.

[QUOTE="nickmag"]It really shows that the origanal console was insanely rushed and faulty if they can improve it that much.Oemenia

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

ps... 5% is not high defective rate for new consumer electronics...

it makes you wonder tho; with the 360 only at 5%, while sony was sued successfully for shoddy hardware, it seems to me the ps2 is the one to watch since sony has a HISTORY of shoddy hardware...;)

Dire_Weasel

A 5% defect rate is HUGE for the first year, HD... especially compared the the smooth launch of the PS3.

And thanks for bringing up the PS2, but we're talking about the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Try to stay on topic, Ok? 

5% of 10,000,000 units is 500,000 defective units.

That's a lot of bad units.

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Oemenia"]Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Dire_Weasel

seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT

You're thanking Microsoft because you have to buy a new $480 console? Congratulations, you're the perfect Microsoft consumer. :roll:

He doesn't have to buy a new console. What about the DS Lite? I don't remember any complaints from DS Heavy owners. 

"One a side note, we all had a good belly laugh here at the shop when we saw Microsoft's most creative measures to minimize the dreaded Xbox 360 3 flashing red lights "ring of death" error caused by poor BGA connections of the CPU and GPU. It seems that that the good ol' a dab will do ya methodology applies here. Take a look at the epoxy surrounding the CPU and GPU which is intended to prevent the BGA connection from popping as the board warps. This has to be one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Will it do the job, I have my doubts, but it will remain to be seen. It certainly seems like taking the easy way out instead of fixing the real problem."

Doesn't sound too great to me, though I'll still get the elite, but this will definitely make me wait and see what happens...

munu9

yep. 

It's almost identical to the old 360...

I don't know how this llama site could even count a 65nm CPU as a possibility, its clear as day in their picture that the die size is the same.
Teufelhuhn

Not really, a single capacitor out of place can make a huge difference. And it seems like they rearranged some of the capacitors... 

 

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Zhengi"]We'll see how it is when it's been out for a while. Remember the disc scratching 360s? Most of those were not launch units and thus shouldn't have been there in the first place. I'll wait and see just how good this new one is before I can trust this shoddy console.tango90101

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/some-new-ps3-models-whining-251671.php

Sorry, HD. The Xbox 360 is the console with the high defect rate... the one with the loud fan, the overheating, and the 3 red lights of death.

The PS3 actually turned out to be a high-quality product, despite all the claims you made otherwise. :lol: 

not according to many ps3 owners who are experiencing overheaqting and loud whining coming from the ps3...;)

ps... 5% is not high defective rate for new consumer electronics...

it makes you wonder tho; with the 360 only at 5%, while sony was sued successfully for shoddy hardware, it seems to me the ps2 is the one to watch since sony has a HISTORY of shoddy hardware...;)

ps...i didn't make the claims... the ps3 owners did... ;)

edit: im out for the weekend... enjoy..

btw; do a google for HD DVD and Europe... see what you find...:D

have a great weekend!

5%!!!?? It's actually less than 1% 

1.3 > 1.2.

They sounded very hateful against Sony, and biast in favor of Microsoft. They shouldn't do that. 

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"][QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Oemenia"]Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Berserker_2

seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT

You're thanking Microsoft because you have to buy a new $480 console? Congratulations, you're the perfect Microsoft consumer. :roll:

He doesn't have to buy a new console. What about the DS Lite? I don't remember any complaints from DS Heavy owners.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]It's almost identical to the old 360...

I don't know how this llama site could even count a 65nm CPU as a possibility, its clear as day in their picture that the die size is the same.
munu9

Not really, a single capacitor out of place can make a huge difference. And it seems like they rearranged some of the capacitors...

Are you being serious? 

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"][QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]To bad your getting milked to buy the same system again, because the first one is red rings of death junk.Cazzidy_basic

dont be surprised if SONY RELEASES ANOTHER SKU for the Panasonic 3do I MEAN Playstation 3

Don't be surprised if the crapbox I MEAN xbox360 "elite" still makes lots of noise, over heats and u end up seeing the red lights of death in a few months. 

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Oemenia"]Nice preview. Hmm how quiet is the thing though?Dire_Weasel

seems like they UPDATED THE NOISY DRIVES AS WELL :) THANKS MICROSFT

You're thanking Microsoft because you have to buy a new $480 console? Congratulations, you're the perfect Microsoft consumer. :roll: 

Or he's an MS rep sent out to gaming forums to perform damage control.

It really shows that the origanal console was insanely rushed and faulty if they can improve it that much.nickmag

That's what I'm thinking too. I wonder if and when the rest of the 360s will start to get decent hardware. 

[QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]It's almost identical to the old 360...

I don't know how this llama site could even count a 65nm CPU as a possibility, its clear as day in their picture that the die size is the same.
Teufelhuhn

Not really, a single capacitor out of place can make a huge difference. And it seems like they rearranged some of the capacitors...

Are you being serious?

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"][QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]To bad your getting milked to buy the same system again, because the first one is red rings of death junk.Cazzidy_basic

dont be surprised if SONY RELEASES ANOTHER SKU for the Panasonic 3do I MEAN Playstation 3

If sony is smart and want to blow this elite out of the water, I say they come with a new SKU with a larger hard drive and replace the price of the 60 gb version at $599 and drop the 60gb version price to $499. If sony does this, say goodbye to the elite, because more people would go for the ps3 60gb version since it comes with the complete package for only 20 dollars more.

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"][QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]To bad your getting milked to buy the same system again, because the first one is red rings of death junk.squallff8_fan

dont be surprised if SONY RELEASES ANOTHER SKU for the Panasonic 3do I MEAN Playstation 3

If sony is smart and want to blow this elite out of the water, I say they come with a new SKU with a larger hard drive and replace the price of the 60 gb version at $599 and drop the 60gb version price to $499. If sony does this, say goodbye to the elite, because more people would go for the ps3 60gb version since it comes with the complete package for only 20 dollars more.

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"]

[QUOTE="Cazzidy_basic"][QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]To bad your getting milked to buy the same system again, because the first one is red rings of death junk.heretrix

dont be surprised if SONY RELEASES ANOTHER SKU for the Panasonic 3do I MEAN Playstation 3

If sony is smart and want to blow this elite out of the water, I say they come with a new SKU with a larger hard drive and replace the price of the 60 gb version at $599 and drop the 60gb version price to $499. If sony does this, say goodbye to the elite, because more people would go for the ps3 60gb version since it comes with the complete package for only 20 dollars more.

LMAO so u telling me if sony did do this, people would still buy the elite at $480 which doesnt have a hd-dvd or bluray and doesnt have wifi which for 20 dollars more they can buy a ps3 which has everything u need in it? Anyone who says there wont be any games, is just lying to them selves, because like the ps1 and ps2 at its launches people were saying they both were going to fail with the slow start of no games in its launch, and looked what happened, they both went on to be the best consoles of its times.

Llamma.com goes inside the new Xbox 360 Elite; Exposes New Motherboard

 

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/news/inside_the_xbox_360_elite.htm

 

look and whip PS3 fanatics ;P

Cazzidy_basic

Fool, nobody knows if it will cut down on ROL errors. The hardware is not completely different...stop spinning.