Xbox 360 Guitar Hero II patch causes the infamous "Rings of Death"

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#1 Game13a13y
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i found this news on this article

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-35250.aspx

*sigh*... just when i thought about getting the Xbox360 Elite....

 

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#2 GsSanAndreas
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Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?
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#3 foxhound_fox
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Old. Not Microsoft's fault.
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#4 whitetiger3521
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Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?GsSanAndreas

It only dies 3% of the time :lol:  

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#5 onewiththegame
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I haven't got the red lights yet, but my 360 is far from working perfect

 

 

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#6 DSgamer64
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OLD

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Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?GsSanAndreas
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.
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#8 elementz28
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yeah its really sad ..you dont even have to do anythin and it give you the red lights of death..the 360 is build to fail .cant the 360 do anythin without breakin down.
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#9 Game13a13y
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Old. Not Microsoft's fault.foxhound_fox

it might be, or it might not... nobody knows yet.

and i think this article is only 1 day old or something, and you call that OLD?

 

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#10 -Daddy-
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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?whitetiger3521

It only dies 3% of the time according to MS  




 
[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

oh so know its the devs fault that MS put crap hardware in the box ? wow just wow
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#11 onewiththegame
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yeah its really sad ..you dont even have to do anythin and it give you the red lights of death..the 360 is build to fail .cant the 360 do anythin without breakin down.elementz28

yeah beat the PS3 in sales

 

 

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#12 ColoradoKindBud
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[QUOTE="whitetiger3521"]

[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?-Daddy-

It only dies 3% of the time according to MS  




 
[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

oh so know its the devs fault that MS put crap hardware in the box ? wow just wow

Um, that "crap hardware" is putting the PS3 to shame at every turn so I wouldn't say too much about it.

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#13 GsSanAndreas
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Lemmings come up with the worst excuses:lol:

Have you not seen the limitless ammount of hardware failures, and yes its Microsofts fault for the shoty hardware, they are the ones making it
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Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?GsSanAndreas

Do you know a company that makes perfect hardware? no, didn't think so.

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#15 foxhound_fox
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it might be, or it might not... nobody knows yet.

and i think this article is only 1 day old or something, and you call that OLD?Game13a13y



A patch released by Red Octane causing hardware failure is not Microsoft's fault.

Have you heard of Starforce? If Starforce ruins your disc drive is it your disc drive's manufacturer's fault it failed?

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#16 elementz28
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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

just how microsoft blames all the people that the disk scratches is their fault and the 360 have nothin to do with it...which is bs because they finally admit that it was their faulty hardware that  causes all the scratches..lol..seriouly the 360 is a piece of junk right now. it cant do nothin right...its like all 360 will soon be curse with the dreadful red lights.

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#17 Fruity_Fantasy
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Lemmings come up with the worst excuses:lol:

Have you not seen the limitless ammount of hardware failures, and yes its Microsofts fault for the shoty hardware, they are the ones making itGsSanAndreas

I haven't had a problem with my Xbox 360 and don't care. I had more faulty Sony hardware(not just game consoles) than faulty MS hardware as you call it.

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Lemmings come up with the worst excuses:lol:

Have you not seen the limitless ammount of hardware failures, and yes its Microsofts fault for the shoty hardware, they are the ones making itGsSanAndreas

Yeah I think the failure rate is higher than 3% 

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#19 elementz28
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Lemmings come up with the worst excuses:lol:

Have you not seen the limitless ammount of hardware failures, and yes its Microsofts fault for the shoty hardware, they are the ones making itGsSanAndreas

 

Exactly if it was build better the 360 woudlnt be in this position.. 

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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

I noticed that, why are the cows so annoying and dumb? They share like one sig between them with the sinking boat that has Xbox 360 love you on it which isn't even funny - oh wow a sinking boat - derrrrrrr!

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    Where does that say it causes the Ring of Death?

    It says some systems are having issues. Red Ring of Death is hardware failure. When was the last time a software update busted up your motherboard?

    It probably bricks some systems, which happens to a few systems with each update. Just look at Nintendo's first update on the Wii. 

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but way is the devs falt. why should an a patch creat this proplem in the first place. have you seen a patch killll your pc no. it is the 360 falt.
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Just look at Nintendo's first update on the Wii. SpruceCaboose


I believe that was caused by the end user not using the update disc that came with their unit before updating it online.

Again, more end-user error.
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    Where does that say it causes the Ring of Death?

    It says some systems are having issues. Red Ring of Death is hardware failure. When was the last time a software update busted up your motherboard?

    It probably bricks some systems, which happens to a few systems with each update. Just look at Nintendo's first update on the Wii. 

SpruceCaboose

exactly here in the article, "However forum threads quickly sprang up on Xbox.com and the official Guitar Hero website complaining that the patch was followed immediately by system freezes and, in some cases, the dreaded ring of death - the only answer to which is returning the console to Microsoft."

 *edit* change the color of font, I made it easier for you.

 

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#26 SpruceCaboose
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Where does that say it causes the Ring of Death?

It says some systems are having issues. Red Ring of Death is hardware failure. When was the last time a software update busted up your motherboard?

It probably bricks some systems, which happens to a few systems with each update. Just look at Nintendo's first update on the Wii.

Game13a13y

exactly here in the article, "However forum threads quickly sprang up on Xbox.com and the official Guitar Hero website complaining that the patch was followed immediately by system freezes and, in some cases, the dreaded ring of death - the only answer to which is returning the console to Microsoft."

*edit* change the color of font, I made it easier for you.

 

    Actually, that was in the link inside the original story you posted, so you linked incorrectly, I did not fail to read it right.

    And I am still suprised that a software update would cause hardware failure, as that seems against all logic.

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but way is the devs falt. why should an a patch creat this proplem in the first place. have you seen a patch killll your pc no. it is the 360 falt.GARRYTH

um if its the 360's fault then how come no one was complaining about this until after this new patch? its clearly a problem with the patch and thats why redoctane has come out and said they are woeking on in.

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#28 LoG-Sacrament
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lemmings just werent meant to play guitar hero :P
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]but way is the devs falt. why should an a patch creat this proplem in the first place. have you seen a patch killll your pc no. it is the 360 falt.jxditu

um if its the 360's fault then how come no one was complaining about this until after this new patch? its clearly a problem with the patch and thats why redoctane has come out and said they are woeking on in.

Since when have you EVER heard of simple game patches killing the machines those games play on? NEVER Until the 360. That right there is sign enough that it's MS's fault with this SHODDY POORLY BUILT CRAPTASTIC hardware. I have a right to complain about this too, the same crap happened to my first 360 within a couple months of purchasing it. Xbots defending this just show how big your fanboyism is and how your opinion should never be taken seriously. Xbots = the real true cows this generation.

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#30 Cobra1237
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I have have the 3 lights of death on my launch xbox 360, it happened last week when the power went off for a second during a snow storm, i turned the xbox back on, and the 3 red lights of "death" were on. I turned it off, and then back on, and it worked fine and has since. It was the first time i have had any problem at all, and you cant blame microsoft for a power failure. Red lights do not exactly mean your system is dead, as my system still works after i have had them once.
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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Fruity_Fantasy

Do you know a company that makes perfect hardware? no, didn't think so.

 

Actually I'm pretty sure the Gamecubes failure rate is vurtually non existent.

 

And most of the Wii's failure problems have been from their owners own stupidity, which I imagine attributes to more of the Xbox failures than people will admit.

 

The worst hardware is Sony. My PS1 I had to play upside down or the damn thing wouldn't work, and my FIRST PS2 worked for a few years until the infamous Disc Red Error Saga. I sent it off got it back where it worked for a year and then did it agin. I finally put the girl out of her misery. Bought a slim PS2 off a friend for $20 just to play Guitar Hero. I will never pay for another Sony Consle again. 

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Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?GsSanAndreas

Well conseduring dat da nentindo wee iz a 1000 timez betta den da crapstation 3....

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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

I find it very odd that you would look at it like that.....fact is a software update shouldn't be putting rings around your disks thereby making them unplayable again.

Yep there was a problem with the software....guess what, the problem became when you have bad hardware to boot.  Both bad hardware/software = bad business. 

When I update windows on my computer I'm certainly not worried about it turning my dvd player into the ring of death.  Lockups, I understand that....actually damaging your game disk is totally the responsiblity of Microsofts poor designs for the console.  It's amazing they still have yet to fix this issue......maybe they have in newer models but can't announce it because it would leave them open to litigation?

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#34 tegovoltio
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It sucks for 360 owners with the game, to buy it and after the patch getting screwed.

It could be MS' fault because of the 360 not supporting the patch correctly and it could just be red octane. 

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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

uhh... it shouldnt be so easy to "muck it up", period. this is ridiculous that people wont admit that theres hardware flaws, even when a patch for a game is causing it.

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#36 FFVII_Madness55
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Damn, the 360's hardware is increasingly dying.

I would say the hardware can last for 2 years then it will just die. LOL. Poor Lemmings.

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#37 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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You would think A patch from red octane would just affect their game itself. It shouldn't be doing anything to the hardware, that should come from MS itself.

 

But if there is a coding error in the patch, then god knows what damage it can do.

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#38 heretrix
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I wish cows would shut the hell up about faulty hardware. You suffered through 2 generations of it. Practically every person I know that had the original Playstation were playing them upside down. And I still have the paper letting me know that If I wanted I could be part of a class action lawsuit because of the issues with the PS2.

People that lived in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

This is not a defense of MS's problems but cows really can't talk. Once again, hypocrisy is king on the dairy farm.

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#39 Game13a13y
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[QUOTE="Game13a13y"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Where does that say it causes the Ring of Death?

It says some systems are having issues. Red Ring of Death is hardware failure. When was the last time a software update busted up your motherboard?

It probably bricks some systems, which happens to a few systems with each update. Just look at Nintendo's first update on the Wii.

SpruceCaboose

exactly here in the article, "However forum threads quickly sprang up on Xbox.com and the official Guitar Hero website complaining that the patch was followed immediately by system freezes and, in some cases, the dreaded ring of death - the only answer to which is returning the console to Microsoft."

*edit* change the color of font, I made it easier for you.

 

    Actually, that was in the link inside the original story you posted, so you linked incorrectly, I did not fail to read it right.

    And I am still suprised that a software update would cause hardware failure, as that seems against all logic.

 

ok, so by your logic, its the software's fault, right? and its all because Red Octane put it there ON PURPOSE to muck up those Xboxes...

why you lemmings completely blame the problem on the dev and think that MS is perfect and all-powerful?

 

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#40 OldParr
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wait it makes sense. I AM ON SECOND 360 IT ONLY TOOK 3 DAYS FOR THE SUCKER TO HAVE THE 3 RINGS AND NOW IM BEGINING TO THINK THAT IS A CONSPIRACY FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER THE ELITE!!! OH NOES
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#41 heretrix
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Where does that say it causes the Ring of Death?

It says some systems are having issues. Red Ring of Death is hardware failure. When was the last time a software update busted up your motherboard?

It probably bricks some systems, which happens to a few systems with each update. Just look at Nintendo's first update on the Wii.

Game13a13y

exactly here in the article, "However forum threads quickly sprang up on Xbox.com and the official Guitar Hero website complaining that the patch was followed immediately by system freezes and, in some cases, the dreaded ring of death - the only answer to which is returning the console to Microsoft."

*edit* change the color of font, I made it easier for you.

 

    Actually, that was in the link inside the original story you posted, so you linked incorrectly, I did not fail to read it right.

    And I am still suprised that a software update would cause hardware failure, as that seems against all logic.

 

ok, so by your logic, its the software's fault, right? and its all because Red Octane put it there ON PURPOSE to muck up those Xboxes...

why you lemmings completely blame the problem on the dev and think that MS is perfect and all-powerful?

 

Have you ever thought that maybe Red Octane screwed up? Activision completely screwed up their Marvel Ultimate Alliance update, is that MS's fault too? How about the fact that this happened after the Red Octane patch was applied? That should tell you something also...

At this point they are investigating what is happening. why don't you let them do that before you make stupid accusations? If there wasn't a possiblity that Red Octane's software could be causing issues they wouldn't be looking into it.

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Lemmings come up with the worst excuses:lol:

Have you not seen the limitless ammount of hardware failures, and yes its Microsofts fault for the shoty hardware, they are the ones making itGsSanAndreas
LOL!  You really need to read a book or something and stop spouting non-sensical comments.  Software broke the hardware.  Hmm.  Sounds like the software was the problem.
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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Lemmings come up with the worst excuses:lol:

Have you not seen the limitless amount of hardware failures, and yes its Microsofts fault for the shoty hardware, they are the ones making itnobeaner
LOL!  You really need to read a book or something and stop spouting non-sensical comments.  Software broke the hardware.  Hmm.  Sounds like the software was the problem.

This is the first time I've heard a software update can physically damage the hardware (game disks).  Would it be surprising to find that a screwy software update makes the X360 overheat?  Maybe not, it shouldn't but I guess that is at least possible.  What you should have with a software problem is hangups/freezing, system crashes, ect...  I think everyone would agree the "ring of death" is nothing new to the X360 hardware but it is surprising that software can trigger it that easily....don't you think?  At least admit that much.....I don't remember X360 specs saying it can burn DVD discs so I doubt the "ring of death" is a feature.

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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]but way is the devs falt. why should an a patch creat this proplem in the first place. have you seen a patch killll your pc no. it is the 360 falt.Amnesiacx

um if its the 360's fault then how come no one was complaining about this until after this new patch? its clearly a problem with the patch and thats why redoctane has come out and said they are woeking on in.

Since when have you EVER heard of simple game patches killing the machines those games play on? NEVER Until the 360. That right there is sign enough that it's MS's fault with this SHODDY POORLY BUILT CRAPTASTIC hardware. I have a right to complain about this too, the same crap happened to my first 360 within a couple months of purchasing it. Xbots defending this just show how big your fanboyism is and how your opinion should never be taken seriously. Xbots = the real true cows this generation.

 and you dont find it alittle odd that this report comes out as soon as the new patch was released? and yes software updates can cause hardware problems. just ask nvidia. there nforce 3 drivers were known for crashing systems. i have GH2 and updated it and i dont have any problems at all. so i cant say it happens with everyone, nore can i blame this on MS. they didnt make the patch.

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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Fruity_Fantasy

Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

I noticed that, why are the cows so annoying and dumb? They share like one sig between them with the sinking boat that has Xbox 360 love you on it which isn't even funny - oh wow a sinking boat - derrrrrrr!

Why are you such a whiner, my grandma whines less than you:shock:

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[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?ColoradoKindBud

It only dies 3% of the time according to MS  




 
[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Why does the 360 hardware suck so bad?Duckyindiana
Why is it ms fault the makers of guitar hero are the ones that mucked up. Man you cows get on my nerves at times.

oh so know its the devs fault that MS put crap hardware in the box ? wow just wow

Um, that "crap hardware" is putting the PS3 to shame at every turn so I wouldn't say too much about it.

Deja Vu: Ps2 Vs Xbox. :P