Xbox 360 is dominating Amazon Japan

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#1 greg_splicer
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Eternal Sonata is #1 in top100, and 360 with ES bundle in #55 spot, Oblivion 360 is also in 15 spot Seems that as more and more games come to 360 over there, people will be turned slowly, coming up next Lost Odyssey in November http://www.amazon.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/202763011/ref=pd_ts_pg_1/249-6352209-9665969?ie=UTF8&pg=1 http://www.amazon.jp/gp/bestsellers/videogames/202763011/ref=pd_ts_pg_3/503-6350104-9613521?ie=UTF8&pg=3
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#2 Newnab
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Interesting... Japan is always going to be the hardest market for MS to crack, but I think if Microsoft keep taking the steps they've been taking, getting Japanese games on board, they could eventually become a bit more popular over there. I think when Japanese people actually give Microsoft and the 360 a chance, they enjoy the games, but they usually just dont even try it because they're not Japanese products or whatever. Which is dumb.
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I think that 360 will become bigger and bigger over there as games become more, right now it is only Blue Dragon, nowcomes Eternal Sonata, so they can geta system for 2 games, now add Naruto and Lost Odyssey by year's end, and 360 will n o longer seem a bad idea, especially when all other consoles have not even one proper next gen JRPG
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            The good thing for MS is; JP is a place where the only place they can go is up - lol - I think they will do just that.
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Dominating? 3 games in top 100 is very far away from dominating....
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#6 cakeorrdeath
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You do this every week and every week the media create sales figures show that Amazon Japan is not a refelection of Japan's overall sales.
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360 still has a bunch of games that are the style that sells in Japan. Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, Maybe Naruto and others.

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Do Japanese people really shop at Amazon like Americans do?  It seems you'd have to establish that fact or not before one could discern any reliable conclusion from the sales data.
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you do know that Sony has total control over Japan and always will have
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I think that 360 will become bigger and bigger over there as games become more, right now it is only Blue Dragon, nowcomes Eternal Sonata, so they can geta system for 2 games, now add Naruto and Lost Odyssey by year's end, and 360 will n o longer seem a bad idea, especially when all other consoles have not even one proper next gen JRPGgreg_splicer

 

I think the 360 will only get about 1.5 to 2 million for this gen. Still not real good but a hell of alot better then then what the xbox did last gen.

But on the naruto game that is being made by ubisoft is being aimed at  north american buyers. I dont even think this game will be released in japan. Its focus is mainly eps 1-80. Please dont ask me how I know this :cry:

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lol the only problem is Japanese dont really buy Videogames stuff in Amazon!
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Do Japanese people really shop at Amazon like Americans do? It seems you'd have to establish that fact or not before one could discern any reliable conclusion from the sales data.ramey70

 

They don't.

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you do know that Sony has total control over Japan and always will haveLambo2468

Except of course Nintendo entirely dominating the gaming market there now.:? 

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you do know that Sony has total control over Japan and always will haveLambo2468
ya and the PS3 sales prove that :lol: Right only Nintendo has control over there.
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I think that 360 will become bigger and bigger over there as games become more, right now it is only Blue Dragon, nowcomes Eternal Sonata, so they can geta system for 2 games, now add Naruto and Lost Odyssey by year's end, and 360 will n o longer seem a bad idea, especially when all other consoles have not even one proper next gen JRPGgreg_splicer

It will NEVER be bigger than what's already projected (3rd place).  Not only do they like home team consoles (Nintendo/SOE) but it doesn't help that the hardware is the biggest POS in the history of gaming hardware.  Maybe it's just me but I think the fact that the X360 only is lasting around a year for a good amount of customers is enough to scare that market.   Heck remember when the original Xbox released and it was scratching their discs......hell retailers actually stopped SELLING the hardware.  Japan seems it's treating the X360 just like the original Xbox......which means they are never going to have the sales they need in that market to label it as a success.

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[QUOTE="ramey70"]Do Japanese people really shop at Amazon like Americans do? It seems you'd have to establish that fact or not before one could discern any reliable conclusion from the sales data.cakeorrdeath

 

They don't.

 

Link ? Numbers ?? anything to back that up at all ?

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#17 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="ramey70"]Do Japanese people really shop at Amazon like Americans do? It seems you'd have to establish that fact or not before one could discern any reliable conclusion from the sales data.greg_splicer

 

They don't.

 

Link ? Numbers ?? anything to back that up at all ?

How about your thread on virtually this topic last week followed by Japanese 360 sales of around 2,000?

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there is an area in Tokyo that full of nothing but games, electroics and hobbies stuff. Thats where most Japanese shop their games at. Did you ever see the launch video of PS3 and Wii? THats where the area is!
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Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

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Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

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Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

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Wow, that's quite something, even if for a brief time.

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[QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

greg_splicer

Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

360s weekly sales in japan debunk your whole theory sorry thread failed try harder next time.

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#23 DanBal76
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you do know that Sony has total control over Japan and always will haveLambo2468

Someone is not very well informed.

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Huzzah for repeat threads!
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Well that just goes to show you how reliable amazon is in representing the total population interest and sales...
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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

-Renegade

Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

360s weekly sales in japan debunk your whole theory sorry thread failed try harder next time.

Do you have numbers from the ...future ? Because Eternal Sonata is not released until 15 June there, just wait and see numbers at that time, now 360 moved to 29 spot, its HDD to 38, and the game itself is in #1 spot, i wonder how many gamers over there will still resist the only console to have the first next gen JRPG's, like ES and Blue Dragon so far, and soon Naruto, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Circle of Doom and Infinite Undiscovery, plus Last Remnant

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

greg_splicer

Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

360s weekly sales in japan debunk your whole theory sorry thread failed try harder next time.

Do you have numbers from the ...future ? Because Eternal Sonata is not released until 15 June there, just wait and see numbers at that time, now 360 moved to 29 spot, its HDD to 38, and the game itself is in #1 spot, i wonder how many gamers over there iwll stil lresist the only console to have the first next gen JRPG's, like ES and Blue Dragon so far, and soon Naruto, Lost oDyssey, Cry On, Circle of Doom and Infinite Undiscovery, plus Last Remnant

And yet after a week Trusty Bell is released, it won't even exist on that list.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

hotdaisy18

Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

360s weekly sales in japan debunk your whole theory sorry thread failed try harder next time.

Do you have numbers from the ...future ? Because Eternal Sonata is not released until 15 June there, just wait and see numbers at that time, now 360 moved to 29 spot, its HDD to 38, and the game itself is in #1 spot, i wonder how many gamers over there iwll stil lresist the only console to have the first next gen JRPG's, like ES and Blue Dragon so far, and soon Naruto, Lost oDyssey, Cry On, Circle of Doom and Infinite Undiscovery, plus Last Remnant

And yet after a week Trusty Bell is released, it won't even exist on that list.

Forza 2 is there for months now, same with Oblivion

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

greg_splicer

Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

360s weekly sales in japan debunk your whole theory sorry thread failed try harder next time.

Do you have numbers from the ...future ? Because Eternal Sonata is not released until 15 June there, just wait and see numbers at that time, now 360 moved to 29 spot, its HDD to 38, and the game itself is in #1 spot, i wonder how many gamers over there will still resist the only console to have the first next gen JRPG's, like ES and Blue Dragon so far, and soon Naruto, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Circle of Doom and Infinite Undiscovery, plus Last Remnant

when the numbers come in for that week could you please post them for us.. because i know it will be no different then any other week in japan and you are just self owning yourself with these weekly topics posting amazon numbers. everyone here knows that online shopping in japan is almost non existent. how about you show us some lines of people lined up to buy these 360s like they did ds for many months? no wait why dont you keep wasting everyones time with these worthless threads. or better yet why dont you just quit with the denial dude.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg do you remember few weeks back when you posted some of these Amazon Top 100 things about X360/PS3/Wii sales in Europe? Do you remember how fast they changed? In just 4 hours some positions changed up to 10 places +/- on the Top 100. Amazon Top 100 are not very credible.

-Renegade

Eternal Sonata is in top100 for 5 month now, never got of the top 100 at all, i have checked nerly every week, now 360 bundle made to top100 too

360s weekly sales in japan debunk your whole theory sorry thread failed try harder next time.

Do you have numbers from the ...future ? Because Eternal Sonata is not released until 15 June there, just wait and see numbers at that time, now 360 moved to 29 spot, its HDD to 38, and the game itself is in #1 spot, i wonder how many gamers over there will still resist the only console to have the first next gen JRPG's, like ES and Blue Dragon so far, and soon Naruto, Lost Odyssey, Cry On, Circle of Doom and Infinite Undiscovery, plus Last Remnant

when the numbers come in for that week could you please post them for us.. because i know it will be no different then any other week in japan and you are just self owning yourself with these weekly topics posting amazon numbers. everyone here knows that online shopping in japan is almost non existent. how about you show us some lines of people lined up to buy these 360s like they did ds for many months? no wait why dont you keep wasting everyones time with these worthless threads. or better yet why dont you just quit with the denial dude.

Then since you are so sure amazon in japan sells 1-2 things per/year, why don;t you provide the link that you gt your info from, just to let us know, how the hell are you sure those Eternal Sonata copies sold are below 100 per month, or below 10 as you might suggest

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Greg's posts never get old.

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Lol well all that really means is Japanese stores don't carry 360 games.
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Lol well all that really means is Japanese stores don't carry 360 games.Lazy_Boy88

Right, then they definatly stores have ZERo Wii consoles too and Wii games, since a week ago Wii was FAR ahead of 360 and Wii games first in top100

So, no Wii's in japan stores ?

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Greg... please check the European Amazon sites

Amazon UK

Amazon France

Amazon Germany

and tell me if you can find any X360 bundle in the Top 100. No, there is not a single one. Does that mean that X360 is dead in Europe? I doubt that!

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#36 greg_splicer
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Greg... please check the European Amazon sites

Amazon UK

Amazon France

Amazon Germany

and tell me if you can find any X360 bundle in the Top 100. No, there is not a single one. Does that mean that X360 is dead in Europe? I doubt that!

Kreean

See now, PS3 outsells 360 in germany and france, and i can clearly see that in those amazon sites, it IS an indication, and in UK it IS an indication that 360 sells well, not that it sels better than PS3 as is the reality, but again it is an indication

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#37 Kreean
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[QUOTE="Kreean"]

Greg... please check the European Amazon sites

Amazon UK

Amazon France

Amazon Germany

and tell me if you can find any X360 bundle in the Top 100. No, there is not a single one. Does that mean that X360 is dead in Europe? I doubt that!

greg_splicer

See now, PS3 outsells 360 in germany and france, and i can clearly see that in those amazon sites, it IS an indication, and in UK it IS an indication that 360 sells well, not that it sels better than PS3 as is the reality, but again it is an indication

Um, I understand what you mean, but I would never use Amazon Top 100 charts for analysing a consoles market growth.

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360 still has a bunch of games that are the style that sells in Japan. Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, Maybe Naruto and others.

Eltroz

im suprised to see they havnt pushed viva pinata over there. its got that animal crossing like element which seems to be pretty popular in japan. also if rare do a good enough job of banjo IMO inroads can be made into the nintendo fanbase aswell

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Greg it is true that many people use the amazon website for buying because they dont have the time to go out or the oppurtunity to buy them in person but just because these consoles rank a certain way doesnt mean that it indicates its success in the current region, and no there are no threads its just common sense, unless you can get me a link to show the correlation between amazon figures and the overall sales of a region, and then and only then will your words mean anything.
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Greg it is true that many people use the amazon website for buying because they dont have the time to go out or the oppurtunity to buy them in person but just because these consoles rank a certain way doesnt mean that it indicates its success in the current region, and no there are no threads its just common sense, unless you can get me a link to show the correlation between amazon figures and the overall sales of a region, and then and only then will your words mean anything.Strongman98

Even if what you suggest is true indeed, i think that the fact that 360 has even ot in top100, and top100 #1 is Eternal Sonata, is a strong indication that games would move 360 like hell, it IS an indication, even if i could not translate it to real numbers