[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="cupsta"] Hmmm $247 for something that has about a 35% chance of not working. I'll just add a $150 to that and get a ps3 that has less than 1% chance of not working. So my answer is
NO
excelR83
:| so you rather spend an extra $150 on a 40gig PS3 that has a 40% failer rating?
You see how that works...anyone can buy into media/fanboy stupidity.
Um, how bout NO, Scott?
The 360's rate of failure is really that high. I work in an electronics retailer. We get ~40 360s sent back every week, and maybe ~4 PS3s or Wii's. Everyone in my department that owns one has sent it back at least once, except the guy that bought the Elite. He says it's getting loud and will probably die on him soon. The display model in our department has died 4 separate times.
Besides that, it's still a great system, but don't try and dodge the failure rate issue. It's not Bigfoot, it's not an alien abduction, it happens all the time.
And a 3 yr warranty is not a selling point, ladies and gentleman. The turnaround can be as long as 2 months. ONLY the RROD is covered by the 3 yr warranty, otherwise you're SOL and paying for it out of your pocket. On top of that, what happens when 3 yrs are up? The system will obviously keep failing since they chose to extend the warranties in lieu of a factory recall. When 3 yrs are up, you might as well count it out, unless you're happy paying ~$100 every 5 months for a repair.
so you sell 100 360's a week?
Yeah somewhere in that range. Some weeks are higher, some are lower. This is a big retailer, we do like $200,000 worth of business on a mid-to-high Saturday.
The 360 is really that unreliable.
And NO, the new lot numbers haven't made an ounce of difference. We got a new lot no. Halo edition, set it up as a display and it died in 3 days. This is obviously not the norm, but it's just as obvious that they haven't taken any steps, aside from the warranty, to resolve this issue.
Why the damage control? It's already been widely reported and acknowledged, even by MS execs, that this is really happening, yet you still choose to live in the dark. Accept it and move on.
[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="cupsta"] Hmmm $247 for something that has about a 35% chance of not working. I'll just add a $150 to that and get a ps3 that has less than 1% chance of not working. So my answer is
NO
Sdur001
:| so you rather spend an extra $150 on a 40gig PS3 that has a 40% failer rating?
You see how that works...anyone can buy into media/fanboy stupidity.
Um, how bout NO, Scott?
The 360's rate of failure is really that high. I work in an electronics retailer. We get ~40 360s sent back every week, and maybe ~4 PS3s or Wii's. Everyone in my department that owns one has sent it back at least once, except the guy that bought the Elite. He says it's getting loud and will probably die on him soon. The display model in our department has died 4 separate times.
Besides that, it's still a great system, but don't try and dodge the failure rate issue. It's not Bigfoot, it's not an alien abduction, it happens all the time.
And a 3 yr warranty is not a selling point, ladies and gentleman. The turnaround can be as long as 2 months. ONLY the RROD is covered by the 3 yr warranty, otherwise you're SOL and paying for it out of your pocket. On top of that, what happens when 3 yrs are up? The system will obviously keep failing since they chose to extend the warranties in lieu of a factory recall. When 3 yrs are up, you might as well count it out, unless you're happy paying ~$100 every 5 months for a repair.
There is no reason you need to see my profile. 2nd, I work at Sears and unless your store is a major retail store I can't see how that many 360 are coming back a week. My friend works at Gamecrazy (the buziest one in north county) and apperentlly you see 90% more defects then we do in a month!3rd. The RROD is a hardware failure indicator. If anything else happenes to your 360 then you probably droped it on the floor.
4th. I'm glad you can see into the future and tell me that my 360 in gonna die exactly 5 months after it's RRoD warranty expires. Phew! this means I must get ready to pay $100 dollars in the Summer of 2009 :|
The only thing your post is missing is "360 sales numbers are high because they count the ones returned" and "PWNED!"
Actually the fanboy thing is part of my sig, I didn't try and click your profile, but obviously it holds true in this case as well. The only reason to hide your profile is to keep people from seeing all the 1's you gave PS3 games you've never played.
I'll address all of your points.
1. It is a big retailer. See above. We do a ton of business. I personally would say I sell 5-15 consoles on any given shift.
2. I don't have a clue where "North County" is, but it doesn't sound like a metropolitan hub to me. Your friend's experience is contrary to every retailer in our chains' return rates, and failure rates acknowledged by major media outlets and even addressed by Peter Moore ("Things break").
3. Actually a lot of failures, but definitely not most, are either disc read errors, the drive scratching the discs, or the ports becoming loose and not working (component, HDMI). None of that is covered by the extended warranty. That is how we sell our extended warranties even though MS has the 3 yr.
4. Heh. 5 months is an estimate. It could be 3 days (our store's display, Kotaku's 360), it could be 1 year, it could never happen. The fact of the matter is that the failure rate is absurdly high. It is not a "well my 360 is different than all of the others!" situation. No. It's not. They are all built with the same manufacturing defect. Whether or not it happens to you is all a matter of chance. The chances are high, so you might as well expect it.
This isn't some media biased attack on the 360, this is the truth. The 360's failure rate is absurdly high, and it should be the one area that you can put aside your fanboy blinders and just accept that it is really happening.
Are the New York Times PS3 fanboys? Kotaku? Gamespot? Peter Moore? All of them have reported or admitted to 360's failure rate being ridiculous. Believe what you want to believe, but skepticism is only skepticism until it's pigheadedness.
The 360 failure rate is higher than MS would like. This is all they stated. Anything above that is speculation.
And while you are on "the media", they also said the new chips should resolve the problem. So since you believe everything you read...
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