Xbox 360 - Proprietary Hard Drive Not That Bad

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#1 erglesmergle
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Ive been seeing a lot of people saying that Microsoft is ripping customers off by charging them more for their proprietary hard drives. I myself actually perfer the 360s hard drive over the standard boring laptop hard drives.

1. Its easier to remove. No having to find a screw driver and taking the console apart to get to the hard drive.

2. You get better hard drive cooling than with the PS3 since the hard drive is getting cool air directly. Hard drive cooling is important people.

3. Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality and support Microsoft is known for. If anything happens to the drive, Microsoft will have one sent to you within weeks. No frustrating processes that other hard drive companies put you through. And please no RROD jokes. Its 2010 people.

So yeah, paying more per GB isnt that big of a deal here, especially considering the benefits that Microsofts specially designed hard drive give you. Mine cost around $120 + tax a while back. You can probably find them now for a few bucks cheaper.

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#2 gamer-adam1
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I kinda thought its to help stop people from pirating

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#3 thelastguy
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Yeah, keep thinking that buddy

360 Drive

Laptop Drive

You can get twice the capacity for half the price, how is that even remotely acceptable?

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#4 ActicEdge
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I have a 320GB external hardrive I got for less than $100. Why would I want to pay stupid amounts of money for one that is completely bound to that system instead of using my own that is far more convient to me? Its a terrible thing.

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#5 gamecubepad
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If I had the choice, I'd prefer the support Sony offers with PS3.

To be honest, I've never had the need for more than the 20GB my H3 360 came with, so I don't care, but here's hoping MS changes things up next gen.

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#6 HavocV3
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at least they've improved the pricing models. the current $30 span certainly beats the old $60-80 difference in what you'd get from an official site for the exact same mode. not ripping people off QUITE as badly, all there is to say really.:?

I might make and format my own 120- 250gb if I decide I need a 7200 RPM HDDthough:)

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Sorry, but untill i can rip the HDD out of my sisters broken computer and effectivly quadruple the space my console came with than this will always be one feature the PS3 will have better. who removes there hard drive that often anyways? you want a save, grab a USB drive.
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Ive been seeing a lot of people saying that Microsoft is ripping customers off by charging them more for their proprietary hard drives. I myself actually perfer the 360s hard drive over the standard boring laptop hard drives.

1. Its easier to remove. No having to find a screw driver and taking the console apart to get to the hard drive.

True, I agree with you here, but you only have to do it once and its not hard or time consuming at all.

2. You get better hard drive cooling than with the PS3 since the hard drive is getting cool air directly. Hard drive cooling is important people.

And the PS3s HDD cage is right next to is HSF. Would you rather have static air over your inclosed platic casing or a big fan next to your HDD?

3. Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality and support Microsoft is known for. If anything happens to the drive, Microsoft will have one sent to you within weeks. No frustrating processes that other hard drive companies put you through. And please no RROD jokes. Its 2010 people.

MS use Western Digital HDD, anyone who knows anything about HDDs is going to be buying a WD hdd for their ps3.

erglesmergle

And thats all I have to say about that.

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Price is the most important factor.
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#10 Cherokee_Jack
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None of that means anything in real life. If you gave someone the choice between an HDD that's somewhat easier to install/remove (even though this could be done with 3rd-party HDDs as well) and has somewhat better support, and an HDD that's much less expensive and has much higher capacity, they would choose the latter 10 times out of 10.
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#11 shinrabanshou
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Are you going to make these "Not that bad" threads for any and every criticism levelled against the 360?

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#12 gamer-adam1
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has anyone even tired to put a different harddrive in the 360's?

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I'd much rather have a WD with a 5 year warranty... but its mainly for portability and stopping people from being able to hack saves easily
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#14 Foliage-King
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http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=683

WD 620gb harddrive 119.99

640 GB, SATA 3 Gb/s, 8 MB Cache, 5400 RPM

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#15 Foliage-King
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Whats the highest transfer speed ps3 and 360 hardrives can support. Cn a ps3 take advantage of a laptop hdd that transfers at 3gb/s

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#16 dxmcat
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sorry, but a laptop drive does not transfer at 3gb/s. The interface its hooked up to can support that, but no hard drive can output date at that rate. As for the rest, its the same ol s ame ol. Microsoft could easily provide you a 250GB+ drive for the same price, but they instead decide to maximize profit and shortchange the consumer by selling you old refurb drives. And sure, they will keep doing it because people will still buy it.

Suckers will be suckers.

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First of all, when has cooling ever been a problem with the PS3? Second of all, I don't know of anyone that has had a ps3 hard drive break, and if they do, it is like 20-30 bucks on ebay for a 100gb+ laptop hard drive.

You can get the xbox 360 hard drive for much less (120gb for less than $50 and 250 for $20 more), if you know what you are doing, and are willing to break the user license agreement. I did... I mean no one should ever do that and it isn't possible :roll:.

The Xbox 360 hard drive is terrible. It is another way for Microsoft to charge 3x more for a product than they should (wifi, rechargeable batter...)

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#18 Foliage-King
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sorry, but a laptop drive does not transfer at 3gb/s. The interface its hooked up to can support that, but no hard drive can output date at that rate. As for the rest, its the same ol s ame ol. Microsoft could easily provide you a 250GB+ drive for the same price, but they instead decide to maximize profit and shortchange the consumer by selling you old refurb drives. And sure, they will keep doing it because people will still buy it.

Suckers will be suckers.

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so what does this link mean by 3gb/s http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=683 Fast and efficient - Ultra-fast 3 Gb/s SATA interface speed yields performance fit for demanding mobile applications.
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#19 Jacobistheman
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[QUOTE="dxmcat"]

sorry, but a laptop drive does not transfer at 3gb/s. The interface its hooked up to can support that, but no hard drive can output date at that rate. As for the rest, its the same ol s ame ol. Microsoft could easily provide you a 250GB+ drive for the same price, but they instead decide to maximize profit and shortchange the consumer by selling you old refurb drives. And sure, they will keep doing it because people will still buy it.

Suckers will be suckers.

Foliage-King
so what does this link mean by 3gb/s http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?DriveID=683 Fast and efficient - Ultra-fast 3 Gb/s SATA interface speed yields performance fit for demanding mobile applications.

SATA (the connector) supports 3 gb/s, but almost all hard disk drives can't read or write close to that fast. Solid State drives can (which you could put in the PS3 if you wanted).
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Ive been seeing a lot of people saying that Microsoft is ripping customers off by charging them more for their proprietary hard drives. I myself actually perfer the 360s hard drive over the standard boring laptop hard drives.

1. Its easier to remove. No having to find a screw driver and taking the console apart to get to the hard drive.

2. You get better hard drive cooling than with the PS3 since the hard drive is getting cool air directly. Hard drive cooling is important people.

3. Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality and support Microsoft is known for. If anything happens to the drive, Microsoft will have one sent to you within weeks. No frustrating processes that other hard drive companies put you through. And please no RROD jokes. Its 2010 people.

So yeah, paying more per GB isnt that big of a deal here, especially considering the benefits that Microsofts specially designed hard drive give you. Mine cost around $120 + tax a while back. You can probably find them now for a few bucks cheaper.

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"Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality Microsoft is known for" Oh and look http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533, at 1TB hdd for $94.
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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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has anyone even tired to put a different harddrive in the 360's?

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#22 battalionwars13
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Proprietary HDD = more money for them.

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#23 Gxgear
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Less is more?

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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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Now while I wouldn't say that, I all so don't see the rip off claims.
yes its expensive, but if you dont wanna spend the money get the more expensive 360 with the bigger hard drive so your not getting gipped on the harddrive.

as for that there ARE options, options which are perfectly legal, and you wont get caught at now.

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"Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality Microsoft is known for"

This is exactly the problem.

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#26 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

Yeah, keep thinking that buddy

360 Drive

Laptop Drive

You can get twice the capacity for half the price, how is that even remotely acceptable?

Took the words out of my mouth.
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#27 WilliamRLBaker
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"Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality Microsoft is known for"

This is exactly the problem.

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#28 MetroidPrimePwn
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For less than $100 I could get a half terabyte hard drive, and I wouldn't ever have to take it out of the PS3 because I would run out of money for games before I ran out of install space.

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#29 TehNubTuber
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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

"Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality Microsoft is known for"

This is exactly the problem.

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System wars fact #667 all microsoft products fail, Nothing they have ever made has worked, EVER. Lets forget the high score numbers they get on mice, and keyboards they make, lets forget the original xbox, lets forget the high quality high scoring webcams, lets forget the high quality controllers without even counting the 360 one.. I could post scores on the hardware side let alone the software side but we'll stick with hardware here...we'll just forget all those things that show the majority of mircosoft hardware actually works... with the 360 being in the minority of hardware products the company that produced that have failed in terms of reliablity.

They've been terrible in the console space though, really don't have any good experience with MS hardware... ever. And these hard drives are some of the biggest rip offs in the history of this planet.
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#30 racing1750
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Sorry, but one area you can't defend the 360, is the HDD. With the PS3 you can upgrade to a 500GB HDD for less than a brand new 120GB HDD MS forces you to buy! Even the 20GB is overpriced. Sony at least gives you freedom to upgrade your HDD without charging you through the roof.
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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

"Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality Microsoft is known for"

This is exactly the problem.

System wars fact #667 all microsoft products fail, Nothing they have ever made has worked, EVER. Lets forget the high score numbers they get on mice, and keyboards they make, lets forget the original xbox, lets forget the high quality high scoring webcams, lets forget the high quality controllers without even counting the 360 one.. I could post scores on the hardware side let alone the software side but we'll stick with hardware here...we'll just forget all those things that show the majority of mircosoft hardware actually works... with the 360 being in the minority of hardware products the company that produced that have failed in terms of reliablity.

They've been terrible in the console space though, really don't have any good experience with MS hardware... ever. And these hard drives are some of the biggest rip offs in the history of this planet.

The hdds are ripoffs. The Hardware now in 2010 is nothing like it was in 2005. I recently asked someone in my local Game store how often 360s are returned broken to the store, and he replied "only two in the last 9 months" MS rushed the 360 out to get a lead on Sony. The original Xbox was unbreakable!
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

Ive been seeing a lot of people saying that Microsoft is ripping customers off by charging them more for their proprietary hard drives. I myself actually perfer the 360s hard drive over the standard boring laptop hard drives.

1. Its easier to remove. No having to find a screw driver and taking the console apart to get to the hard drive.

2. You get better hard drive cooling than with the PS3 since the hard drive is getting cool air directly. Hard drive cooling is important people.

3. Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality and support Microsoft is known for. If anything happens to the drive, Microsoft will have one sent to you within weeks. No frustrating processes that other hard drive companies put you through. And please no RROD jokes. Its 2010 people.

So yeah, paying more per GB isnt that big of a deal here, especially considering the benefits that Microsofts specially designed hard drive give you. Mine cost around $120 + tax a while back. You can probably find them now for a few bucks cheaper.

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"Its made by Microsoft so that means you get the quality Microsoft is known for" Oh and look http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533, at 1TB hdd for $94.

I laughed at that as well :P How soon we forget...