Xbox 360 prototype worker switches to Sony PS3

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#1 nogginkl
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http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/07/22/xbox-360-prototype-worker-switches-to-
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#2 Adonymous
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where can I e-mail my letter telling them how I worked on the Phantom?

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#3 LagSwitch
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

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#4 Chutebox
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This isn't new at all, I think we all knew this.

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#5 Millennium_King
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Lol, can't win em all I suppose. The article did say that Microsoft is doing things right on the software front. It's almost no surprise that the Gamestop my cousin works at had tons of PS3s returned or traded after the FFXIII bomb.
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#6 Floppy_Jim
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

No-one cares about their customers. Not Ninty, not MS and not Sony.

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#7 LagSwitch
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[QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

Floppy_Jim

No-one cares about their customers. Not Ninty, not MS and not Sony.

But Sony doooooess!!

Sony makes an expensive product, but sells it so cheap.

MS makes a cheap product, but sells it relatively expensively.

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#8 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

No-one cares about their customers. Not Ninty, not MS and not Sony.

But Sony doooooess!!

Sony makes an expensive product, but sells it so cheap.

MS makes a cheap product, but sells it relatively expensively.

$400/$600 is "cheap"? I agree that MS are much worse but I still wouldn't say Sony truly care about their customers.

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#9 ovechkin08
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I thought it was a dev who worked on the game Prototype switching over to the ps3 to help the development when I read the title.
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#10 Millennium_King
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I thought it was a dev who worked on the game Prototype switching over to the ps3 to help the development when I read the title.ovechkin08

:lol:

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#11 Konxumer
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Can anyone say fake? Yawn... wake me up when you actually try to make a false piece of journalism. That said believe it or not all companies do care about their consumers end experience with their product. They just don't care if your dog died.
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#12 jazreal
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Can anyone say fake? Yawn... wake me up when you actually try to make a false piece of journalism. That said believe it or not all companies do care about their consumers end experience with their product. They just don't care if your dog died.Konxumer
agreed ;) ol i guess this is how an angry cow(NOT ALL, so dont even..) makes up for "something else" going over to another camp...with people :P silly
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#13 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="ovechkin08"]I thought it was a dev who worked on the game Prototype switching over to the ps3 to help the development when I read the title.Millennium_King

:lol:

Same here

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#14 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

No-one cares about their customers. Not Ninty, not MS and not Sony.

But Sony doooooess!!

Sony makes an expensive product, but sells it so cheap.

MS makes a cheap product, but sells it relatively expensively.

Isn't it so nice for Sony to supply you HD cables for their HD system... oh wait, they didn't. :|
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#15 DireOwl
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

Are you serious?! Please do not tell me you actually believe this. No company cares for their customers, they only care about your wallet. Not paying for exclusives? High launch price? Forcing Blu-Ray down people throats? This is cow denial at it's best.

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#16 dhjohns
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

:lol: Oh the irony. Gotta love SW where companies morph into caregivers.

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#17 Cipher92
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch
Really? Giving gamers achievments and superior online from the getgo, a new user inteface, exclusive games (they paid for) downloadable content... no what the guy means is that microsoft totally give sthe customers what they ask for. Sony lies, cheats, promises, and delays... so tell me now, how can you say they care about their customers?
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#18 -GhostMLD-
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in other news, GT5 is possibly beeen delayed to 2010.

there, now were even.

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#19 Bubblehash
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[QUOTE="LagSwitch"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

Floppy_Jim

No-one cares about their customers. Not Ninty, not MS and not Sony.

But Sony doooooess!!

Sony makes an expensive product, but sells it so cheap.

MS makes a cheap product, but sells it relatively expensively.

$400/$600 is "cheap"?

It is when you look at the cost of production. It cost more to make a PS3 than what Sony is selling it for. What parts of that is hard for you to understand?
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It is when you look at the cost of production. It cost more to make a PS3 than what Sony is selling it for. What parts of that is hard for you to understand?Bubblehash
Is Sony still selling at a loss on each unit - production costs greatly reduce over time - so I highly doubt Sony would still be losing money on each PS3 sold; if they are, that really tells you how they truly messed up like no other when developing the technology for the PS3.
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#21 Lyphe2k
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Ohhhhh I thought a guy working on the game Prototype switched over to PS3. I was like wha?

Smart move, Chris. Welcome to the dark side.

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#23 MyopicCanadian
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The Xbox 360 hardware design is so inferior to the PS3 it's not even funny. Switching between the two, I almost get annoyed at using my Xbox.. so loud, so clunky, even down to the crappy buttons you use to power it on and the stupid disc tray.

I find it interesting how this guy mentioned that Microsoft was making a profit off their 360's from the get-go. Microsoft's been saying that for the first year or two they were taking a hit on each console sold...

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#24 Fusible
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch
You must be really blind if you think they put you first over their profit. Without hype, without PR, without YOUR money, they don't care for you as an individual. They only care about the number you represent to them nothing else.
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#25 sleepingzzz
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http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/07/22/xbox-360-prototype-worker-switches-to-nogginkl

You do realize that anyone can make a review of a product and post it on that site. That article is written by a regular fan boy. Anyone can post a review on that site about a product. If they kept a stat tracker for every stupid post in System Wars....sigh..

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#26 Swift_Boss_A
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I thought it was about prototype the game, lol.
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This seems fake. I'm pretty sure that at launch MS sold the 360 for a loss.
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#28 Bubblehash
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[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]It is when you look at the cost of production. It cost more to make a PS3 than what Sony is selling it for. What parts of that is hard for you to understand?Stevo_the_gamer
Is Sony still selling at a loss on each unit - production costs greatly reduce over time - so I highly doubt Sony would still be losing money on each PS3 sold; if they are, that really tells you how they truly messed up like no other when developing the technology for the PS3.

I believe they still are selling at a lost, but I am not sure. You can twist it how ever you wish and say it was a mess up, I really don't care. Again, they care more about their costumers. I am sorry that is so hard for you to swallow.
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#29 heretrix
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I remember when I worked on the PSP and decided to switch over to DS development.

You see the problem was I knew squat about engineering and somehow figured sending PSPs with lots of dead pixels would be an interesting experiment in customer tolerance.

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#30 Burnsmiesta
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The "joke" comment and his 4th RRoD statement lead me to believe this is fake.

Really, is this the level we've fallen too? I get it, "Chris" doesn't like the 360. Get over it.
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#31 WeaponX295
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The Article may be genuine but it certainly seems fake.

Anyway, I'm really tired about people complaining about the PS3 being so much more expensive then the 360. At launch the PS# was $600 which seems high in comparison to the $400 launch price of the 360, but once you add the $100 Wi-Fi adapter, $30 Play and Charge Kit, and $50 XBox live subscription there about equal.

In essence it comes down to value, and up until recently the PS3 didn't have the games to compete with the 360.

Further more anyone who thinks that either Sony or Microsoft care about there customers is kidding themselves. Both companies only care about the money. That's why Microsoft Charges for XBox Live, and the only reason Sony was selling there console at a loss was because they had no choice. They took a gamble that selling the Console for less then its development cost would be beneficial in the long run and as of yet that hasn't paid off.

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I believe they still are selling at a lost, but I am not sure. You can twist it how ever you wish and say it was a mess up, I really don't care. Again, they care more about their costumers. I am sorry that is so hard for you to swallow.Bubblehash
So, they care about their consumers because they sell their product at a loss? Hmm. I would say that because their research team made quite the mistake while developing the technology for the PS3 without gaming in mind, Sony is paying for it right now. The games show that - the PS3 is not a developer friendly console, and the sales show that as well. Not to mention Sony couldn't even do a world-wide launch with the PS3 because of it's technology. I guess if they really cared about you, and I - they would have given us the HD cables necessary for watching Blu-Ray movies in high definition or for playing Resistance in HD. After all, they go about touting their console as the supreme HD option - "Next Generation doesn't start till we say it does" ect. and yet, what's that Sony? No High-Definition cables?

Believe me kiddo, Sony does not care about you or me. They never did, and they never will.

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#33 C4_yourself
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

This has to be the most stupid thing ive ever heard anyone say on SW

congratz

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#34 C4_yourself
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[QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

Cipher92
Really? Giving gamers achievments and superior online from the getgo, a new user inteface, exclusive games (they paid for) downloadable content... no what the guy means is that microsoft totally give sthe customers what they ask for. Sony lies, cheats, promises, and delays... so tell me now, how can you say they care about their customers?

100% agreed
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[QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

C4_yourself

This has to be the most stupid thing ive ever heard anyone say on SW

congratz

That is saying a lot, because I have read much worse. Also, you meant "read" not "heard"

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#36 masori
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He makes a very good point.

Sony cares about its customers.

Microsoft doesnt.

LagSwitch

.

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[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]I believe they still are selling at a lost, but I am not sure. You can twist it how ever you wish and say it was a mess up, I really don't care. Again, they care more about their costumers. I am sorry that is so hard for you to swallow.Stevo_the_gamer

So, they care about their consumers because they sell their product at a loss? Hmm. I would say that because their research team made quite the mistake while developing the technology for the PS3 without gaming in mind, Sony is paying for it right now. The games show that - the PS3 is not a developer friendly console, and the sales show that as well. Not to mention Sony couldn't even do a world-wide launch with the PS3 because of it's technology. I guess if they really cared about you, and I - they would have given us the HD cables necessary for watching Blu-Ray movies in high definition or for playing Resistance in HD. After all, they go about touting their console as the supreme HD option - "Next Generation doesn't start till we say it does" ect. and yet, what's that Sony? No High-Definition cables?

Believe me kiddo, Sony does not care about you or me. They never did, and they never will.

+1

Not only that but doesn anyone remember back when the PS2 had all those problems what Sony did to fix it??? Nope I don't remember either because Sony did NOTHING to fix any of it's multitude of problems. All they did was tell you to send it in and pay for the repairs. Yep Sony really cares for it's customers.

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I thought it was a dev who worked on the game Prototype switching over to the ps3 to help the development when I read the title.ovechkin08

exactly what i thought

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+1

Not only that but doesn anyone remember back when the PS2 had all those problems what Sony did to fix it??? Nope I don't remember either because Sony did NOTHING to fix any of it's multitude of problems. All they did was tell you to send it in and pay for the repairs. Yep Sony really cares for it's customers.

kingtito
Watching DVDs on your PS2 basically shortened its lifespan; not to mention it was plagued with desk-reading problems, the first production line models especially. Some people took Sony to court with a Class-Action lawsuit over all this, Sony later agreed to settle the lawsuit and then fix PS2s free of charge, a problem in which they knowingly shipped their console with. I had to pay 100 bucks to fix my PS2 back in 2001. Here's a link to the settlement.
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#40 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

+1

Not only that but doesn anyone remember back when the PS2 had all those problems what Sony did to fix it??? Nope I don't remember either because Sony did NOTHING to fix any of it's multitude of problems. All they did was tell you to send it in and pay for the repairs. Yep Sony really cares for it's customers.

Stevo_the_gamer

Watching DVDs on your PS2 basically shortened its lifespan; not to mention it was plagued with desk-reading problems, the first production line models especially. Some people took Sony to court with a Class-Action lawsuit over all this, Sony later agreed to settle the lawsuit and then fix PS2s free of charge, a problem in which they knowingly shipped their console with. I had to pay 100 bucks to fix my PS2 back in 2001. Here's a link to the settlement.

I find it funny how most cows conveniently forget these facts.

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#41 IIJuggaNottII
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Guys need to learn how to be Media Literate.
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#42 SSCyborg
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Devs care about their customers(or should)

Mega corporations do not.