I am really dissapointed in both consoles, especially 360, it should have been a powerhouse like the original xbox, while sony was focused at ps3 multimedia crap and all the add ons MS just had one goal was to make the 360 a powerful gaming machine, it doesnt have a blu ray no wifi launch consoles didnt have hdmi ports, so it was stripped bare, they should have equiped it with a 1gb of memory and xenos should have been a 256 bit gpu, it would have done wonders in todays games, devs would be laughing at 720p resolutions instead of months of painstaking optimizations, while idiots in sony camp put stickers on ps3 and how it can do 1080p, and morons put 256mb of actual memory, it just pisses me off that all these little gadgest are included yet the gpu and the memory took a shaft, but 360 has no excuses it didnt include anything special yet it only made a adequate gaming machine, going from 128bit to 256bit is a big leap in graphics, more bandwith, and now we are in sub HD era where the greatest devs cant even squezze 720p resolutions without FPS taking a hit.
umm it is a powerhouse. It came out in 2005 dude. Technology catches up quickly. Also it easliy goes toe to toe with PS3 if not in some areas exceed it and some behind it.
Its nowhere near a powerhouse, such a powerhouse would do 720p easy, it has 48 shaders going for it, but all that is useless with that 128 bit, at the time there were cards even a lowly 6800GS was putting 256bit interface, having a 128bit gpu is a very big bottleneck, and a 1gb of memory in 2005 sounded right, but the costs wanted to be keept in check, yet in a year all that extra i mentioned is dirt cheap, graphics sells consoles, just having a reputation of being the most powerful console sells product, this would have made sony go with a better GPU based on the 8 series and it would have had more ram, thats why this gen is a fake HD era.
If anything I would say the consoles that came out a full year later should have been more powerful, given the obvious time frame advantage.dru26
This I've said many times myself. The TC really should be saying the PS3 should be more powerful as I think most of us expected it to blow away the 360 since it came out a full year later and cost almost twice as much.
I feel that these "Modern Day Console's" are "OK". It's the game's coming out recently that make me laugh. I guess the N64, PS1 and PS2 days where the best for me. I think the Dev's. are running out of Idea's honestly. Playing a game I basically played years ago for $60 bucks is a no no.....
Well then they shouldnt put HD on them, I look at it like Upscaling to HD era, thats why these games take soo long to finish. thats why Killzone2 is taking this long to complete GT5 MGS4, numerous devs have expressed that these next gen consoles are really weak.
actually i agree with TC.. they should've at least increased the embedded 10mb EDRAM of the GPU to a level that could allow developers to do HDR + 4xAA at 720p without tiling.
the ps3 is even worse in terms of power... all multiplats seems to be getting downgraded due to it's poor performing rsx compared to xenos.
I'm too busy enjoying the games to care about what "could or should" have been. And fake HD or not, it's making a huge difference over last gen's game resolution. Especially if you're lucky enough to be playing on an HDTV.
Everyone that knows GPUs knows 128-256 is like night and day, thats why a 7900GS will beat out a 8600GT oh yea and the GT has 32 shaders, who ever was creating the PS3 was a big moron, it takes a lot of objects to fill that 1080P picture, and everything takes memory, its really dissapointing the games look fine but I would say both consoles are pushing 80-90% of what they are capable of, thats why textures look so washed out especially on ps3, GT5P looks amazing but when u notice the crowd and everything else, it looks like something from a PS2 game.
I am really dissapointed in both consoles, especially 360, it should have been a powerhouse like the original xbox, while sony was focused at ps3 multimedia crap and all the add ons MS just had one goal was to make the 360 a powerful gaming machine, it doesnt have a blu ray no wifi launch consoles didnt have hdmi ports, so it was stripped bare, they should have equiped it with a 1gb of memory and xenos should have been a 256 bit gpu, it would have done wonders in todays games, devs would be laughing at 720p resolutions instead of months of painstaking optimizations, while idiots in sony camp put stickers on ps3 and how it can do 1080p, and morons put 256mb of actual memory, it just pisses me off that all these little gadgest are included yet the gpu and the memory took a shaft, but 360 has no excuses it didnt include anything special yet it only made a adequate gaming machine, going from 128bit to 256bit is a big leap in graphics, more bandwith, and now we are in sub HD era where the greatest devs cant even squezze 720p resolutions without FPS taking a hit.deniiiii21
FYI...Many Xbox 360 games are 1080P. There are debates on which are native, and which are upconverting, but there have been titles verified with 1080P Native output. It does have the power for it. And remember it was released in 2005. Things change quickly. If it was released today then your argument would have marit, but as it stands it is still great technology when you think about it being 3 years old (that is 66 in technology years).
I would like to see more 1080P titles for my PS3 though. And my Wii....Oh never mind 720 and 1080 isn't in its vocab.
The thing is this technology was available in 2005, PC's have been doing these resolutions way before 2005, its dissapointing that visuals really wont be that better than what they are right now, because ps3 is supposed to last 10 years.
Devs are having troubles with this 'weak' hardware... amazing that there was plenty of really fun games on hardware much weaker, I miss those days. When devs were actually creative and didn't use the FPS' are awesomess engine for all their games.
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