xbox 360 supports SHADER MODEL 3.5!!!

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#1 rakee999
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos

hey I didnt know that!!

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ok...?
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yup, it has 3.0+, while ps3 has just 3.0
 
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#6 coolguy1111
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yup, it has 3.0+, while ps3 has just 3.0
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So? I doubt theyll be able to use it, theres not enough pipelines.
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#7 hydrophoboe
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Not enough pipelines? Have you ever owned a computer? I could run SM 3.0 on my 6800GT, which IIRC had about 16 pixel pipes.
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#8 coolguy1111
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Not enough pipelines? Have you ever owned a computer? I could run SM 3.0 on my 6800GT, which IIRC had about 16 pixel pipes.hydrophoboe
Yea then run oblivion? With full shaders?
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OMG!!!!! .... what does that mean?
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[QUOTE="jahnee"]yup, it has 3.0+, while ps3 has just 3.0
coolguy1111
So? I doubt theyll be able to use it, theres not enough pipelines.

there actually is, and expect the impossible with both systems though in their end of generation. I remember how the ps2 was so much weaker than the most pc's a year later, and how the hardware never and i mean absolutely never could've had graphics that it has now.
What now is impossible for developers to do on xbox 360, will be easy to program in about 4 years. Expect the unexpected.
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Nope, I have my x1900xt for that which I run 1680x1050 6X AA, adaptive anti-aliasing, 16X anistropic filtering (okay, pretty much all those extra "AA and AF" settings that run about double of whatever the PS3 and Xbox 360 run at) at the highest settings (full draw-distance, with those 2056x2056meg textures in the bg) -- 50FPS average. Dun forget HDR.

I think the x1900xt has about 24 pixel pipelines, in comparison to the Xenos' 48 (which is not a simple comparison--the Xenos somewhere equivalent to my video card).

Also, increases in SM model versions does not always mean a performance drop. The differences between SM 2.0 and SM 3.0 in Farcry were about a 10-15FPS difference. Not a huge difference there. Sometimes the SM model increase actually runs more efficiently than the previous model.


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#12 Rex4842
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And a PC has up to 4

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150205
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And a PC has up to 4

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150205
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we know.
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With Vista, yeah the PC has shader and vertex models 4.0. IIRC, games run pretty crappily on Vista, mostly due to the drivers.
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Yay?
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With Vista, yeah the PC has shader and vertex models 4.0. IIRC, games run pretty crappily on Vista, mostly due to the drivers.hydrophoboe
You don't have to have Vista to install that graphics card...almost all computer gamers don't want Vista cause of the damn glitches it have.
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With Vista, yeah the PC has shader and vertex models 4.0. IIRC, games run pretty crappily on Vista, mostly due to the drivers.hydrophoboe


Yeah, they do right now. Mostly on Nvidia cards though. They need to come out with some drivers fast. It should all be fixed though.
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#18 REX3453
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[QUOTE="hydrophoboe"]With Vista, yeah the PC has shader and vertex models 4.0. IIRC, games run pretty crappily on Vista, mostly due to the drivers.trix5817


Yeah, they do right now. Mostly on Nvidia cards though. They need to come out with some drivers fast. It should all be fixed though.

Yep
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#20 hydrophoboe
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You don't have to have Vista to install that graphics card...almost all computer gamers don't want Vista cause of the damn glitches it have. REX3453
Correct, but you need Vista to run DX10 shader models.
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#21 tricyclon123
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[QUOTE="jahnee"]yup, it has 3.0+, while ps3 has just 3.0
coolguy1111
So? I doubt theyll be able to use it, theres not enough pipelines.

It is not about how many pipilines there are, but what they can do, and that i think is what SM3.5 does better in 360