Xbox 360 to sell 12 million by August 2007- Peter Moore.

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#1 loco145
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"For the final quarter we'll be in and around twelve million. The Elite numbers are coming in very strong. We introduced a SKU that we don't quite have a feel on the demand but the numbers are doing very well."

http://www.gameswank.com/?p=581

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#2 hyruledweller
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Moore will say anything.
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Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.
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#4 loco145
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Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.HarlockJC

Sumarry. 

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.loco145

Sumarry. 

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

...11 Million by Jan. 2008. 

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.loco145

Sumarry.

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

Yea that sums it up the 360 is not doing as well now they have comp I could only imagine if the 360 dropped in 2006. 

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Something's wrong when Microsoft brags about hitting 10 million in Jan and then says they'll hit 12 million 8 months later.
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.hyruledweller

Sumarry. 

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

...11 Million by Jan. 2008. 

Lmao, this thread owns.

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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.BrooklynBomber

Sumarry.

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

Yea that sums it up the 360 is not doing as well now they have comp I could only imagine if the 360 dropped in 2006.

Needs a price drop soon. 

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I guess it must be easy to poke fun at sales figures when you dont have any AAA games...
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lmao

Moore Weaksauce from Peter

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We are in the "final quarter" right now.
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:| you're telling me they sold 10 million around the first week of january, and sales have slowed down so much that its going to take them 3/4 of a year to sell no 1/5 a much?

Something fishy is going on.
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If the premium drops to $300 it's lights out for the wii and ps3 imo.
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Where in the article does it say 12 million by October?  It says they will meet their target with the Elite.  The fiscal year ends June 30th.
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I guess it must be easy to poke fun at sales figures when you dont have any AAA games...Ninja-Vox

I'm confused :?

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I see MS making that goal considering Halo 3 will be out for a month by then.
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If they haven't sold that much by then with halo 3 in september, MS is pretty much screwed.
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.hyruledweller

Sumarry.

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

...11 Million by Jan. 2008.

 

Wasn't the 360 to sell one billion units under its lifespan at first? :P

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#20 loco145
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We are in the "final quarter" right now.pins_basic

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

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[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.loco145

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

The Fiscal Quarter (year) ends June 30th and that would make more since.  Since that is what they were projecting 12 million by.

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#22 loco145
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I see MS making that goal considering Halo 3 will be out for a month by then.DA_B0MB

Halo 3 for September is confirmed? 

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#23 menmau
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That number can reach 15 million, if and only IF they fix properly the hardware, maybe with the new 65nm version they will get strong and reliable hardware, and then we all can enjoy the pleasure of playing X360...
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Is it me or did they say they were going to sell 12 million by June. Now they are moving it to Oct. I guess sells are not doing so well.loco145

Sumarry. 

10 Millions by mid November 2006.

10 Millions by the End of 2006.

15 millions by the end June 2007.

12 millions by the end of June 2007.

12 Millions by the end of October 2007.

fortunately for MS they have 2 tricks up their sleeves...

no1. Halo3

no2. price cut- as soon as they have 65nm CPUs & 65nm GPUs in production they can afford to cut the price & its been estimated that they will enter production Q4 this year.

Xbox360 wasnt selling brilliantly in '06 but they managed to ship a whole lot in the run up to Xmas...

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[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.loco145

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007

Microsoft is in it's final quarter.
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If at first you don't succeed, lower your expectations.
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.rexoverbey

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

The Fiscal Quarter ends June 30th and that would make more since. Since that is what they were projecting 12 million by.

Did some more quick research, i guess you are right. Anyway, The 12 million estimate does includes the Elite.

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#28 helium_flash
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That is barely anything :|

I thought they'd be nearly 20 million by the end of '07.  Wow, how dissapointing.  Imagine the sales boost if they never released the Elite and they lowered the price a bit. 

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12 million in two years!! What a loss. I see... the lack of the big games...
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#30 iwo4life
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GS:Stuffing the channel - Bogus

Saying that MS didn't stuff the channel - Bogus

Seriously Lems were going off about how the 360 sold 10 million before the PS3/Wii even launched because some stupid site with an imaginary count said so.  Now they are projecting that they will only sell 2 million more in a whole year.

Lets face it both the 360 and Wii are selling because thier respective previous gen system was axed on the announcement of the new one.  Those gamers had no where to go but to the next console or they could replay thier old games.  Sure Ninty threw GC owners a bone and gave them LoZ:TP.  I feel Sony's strategy is to keep the PS2 alive until the actual PS3 games come out that will move systems.  They knew that the ultimate hardcores would buy it in limited quanities.  They will have manufacturing cheaper to the point where they can drop the price and open the floodgates.  I think its better than killing off the old system and leave everyone in the dirge for a year with limited games.   It was the same way with PS2 but nobody seems to remember that.

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[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.loco145

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

Although September seems to be the most popular ending month, it must be understood that the end date varies between businesses and countries.

ms's final quarter ends june 30....

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/759/759228p1.html

 

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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.InfamousC

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

Although September seems to be the most popular ending month, it must be understood that the end date varies between businesses and countries.

ms's final quarter ends june 30....

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/759/759228p1.html

 

Did I just read that wrong or are you correcting a 360 basher and giving MS a chance?

YOU?

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#34 GloverD
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hahaha December 10 million 8 months later 12 million isnt that just gravy.... guess theres not all that demand.... stop picking on PS3 when in 8 months your system cant sell a measley 2 mill units Buh buh buh Teh GAMESSS!!!
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.fatzombiepigeon

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

Although September seems to be the most popular ending month, it must be understood that the end date varies between businesses and countries.

ms's final quarter ends june 30....

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/759/759228p1.html

 

Did I just read that wrong or are you correcting a 360 basher and giving MS a chance?

YOU?

by now this should be common knowledge ms readjusted their estimates back in jan..

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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="pins_basic"]We are in the "final quarter" right now.InfamousC

1st Quarter: October 1, 2006 to December 31, 2006
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2007 to March 31, 2007
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2007 to June 30, 2007
4th Quarter: July 1, 2007 to September 30, 2007


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_quarter

Although September seems to be the most popular ending month, it must be understood that the end date varies between businesses and countries.

ms's final quarter ends june 30....

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/759/759228p1.html

 

Did I just read that wrong or are you correcting a 360 basher and giving MS a chance?

YOU?

by now this should be common knowledge ms readjusted their estimates back in jan..

I know, I was just saying....

Nevermind.

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he wish :lol:, X360 has not yet 10 million, how much more 12 million. just like the original Xbox, X360 sales will stop at 25 million, 30 million tops.
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#38 psycotictaratua
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Dosen't Peter Moore mean ship when he says sell?  So in reality, MS will be lucky to sell 11 million by then.
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#39 fatzombiepigeon
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he wish :lol:, X360 has not yet 10 million, how much more 12 million. just like the original Xbox, X360 sales will stop at 25 million, 30 million tops.xxThyLordxx

Actually, I think there was just a misunderstanding with MS's fiscal year.

I may be wrong however.

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"For the final quarter we'll be in and around twelve million. The Elite numbers are coming in very strong. We introduced a SKU that we don't quite have a feel on the demand but the numbers are doing very well."

http://www.gameswank.com/?p=581

loco145

It's pretty funny how few units Microsoft has managed to move this year. I wonder if they'll dump another huge load of them on retailers this november and then claim "16 million sold" or some other line of ****. 

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#41 pins_basic
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Why is this thread still around?  It's not by October, it's by the end of June.
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I hate to say this, because I'm not a fan of Halo...but when Halo 3 launches, the number of 360s sold will skyrocket.  It will be ridiculous.  If Wii surpasses 360 b4 Halo 3 launches, then 360 will surpass Wii again after Halo 3 launches.  We can debate 360 sales all we want, but the fact of the matter is that when Halo 3 launches, the holiday 360 console sales season could TRIPLE in sales of the previous holiday season.
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#43 slyydevil
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Are we even sure about the 10 mil? When was the parade in the streets? Okay, let's be realistic here: The 360 is clearly the leader in the States, I'll say about 6.5 mil sold here but isn't it being beat up in other territories? That would mean that ther's at least 3 to 4 mil more around the world and that's where it gets hazy. You can't trust anyones numbers and that includes all of the console makers as well. Numbers get skewed all the time and is a waste of time debating over....
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:| you're telling me they sold 10 million around the first week of january, and sales have slowed down so much that its going to take them 3/4 of a year to sell no 1/5 a much?

Something fishy is going on.
Adrian_Cloud
No, something fishy happened.
How do you think MS hit 10 million by the end of 2006? By overshipping. They sold too many units to retailers and now retailers aren't buying that many more. That's why, despite relatively strong and stable sales at retail, MS is only going to ship 2 million units for more than half a year.

It's called channel stuffing, it's an underhanded method to make a company look better than it is, and it's what MS did with the 360.

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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]:| you're telling me they sold 10 million around the first week of january, and sales have slowed down so much that its going to take them 3/4 of a year to sell no 1/5 a much?

Something fishy is going on.
Hoffgod

No, something fishy happened.
How do you think MS hit 10 million by the end of 2006? By overshipping. They sold too many units to retailers and now retailers aren't buying that many more. That's why, despite relatively strong and stable sales at retail, MS is only going to ship 2 million units for more than half a year.

It's called channel stuffing, it's an underhanded method to make a company look better than it is, and it's what MS did with the 360.

 

100% true.

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Something's wrong when Microsoft brags about hitting 10 million in Jan and then says they'll hit 12 million 8 months later.nnavidson

 

Indeed, that means they only expect to sell 250k worldwide per month.  If that's what they expect.  Wii is going to crush them. 

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I hate to say this, because I'm not a fan of Halo...but when Halo 3 launches, the number of 360s sold will skyrocket.  It will be ridiculous.  If Wii surpasses 360 b4 Halo 3 launches, then 360 will surpass Wii again after Halo 3 launches.  We can debate 360 sales all we want, but the fact of the matter is that when Halo 3 launches, the holiday 360 console sales season could TRIPLE in sales of the previous holiday season. AvIdGaMeR444

I think people over estimate this franchise, it has awsome critical acclaim and it does sell well but it did not help the first xbox sell anymore units than 20% of what the PS2 managed to shift.  I would imagine the majority of people waiting for Halo3 already own a 360 and play GoW on it.

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]I hate to say this, because I'm not a fan of Halo...but when Halo 3 launches, the number of 360s sold will skyrocket.  It will be ridiculous.  If Wii surpasses 360 b4 Halo 3 launches, then 360 will surpass Wii again after Halo 3 launches.  We can debate 360 sales all we want, but the fact of the matter is that when Halo 3 launches, the holiday 360 console sales season could TRIPLE in sales of the previous holiday season. csliney

I think people over estimate this franchise, it has awsome critical acclaim and it does sell well but it did not help the first xbox sell anymore units than 20% of what the PS2 managed to shift.  I would imagine the majority of people waiting for Halo3 already own a 360 and play GoW on it.

Actually, MS recently stated that roughly 40% of 360 owners owned an original Xbox.

40% of roughly 10,000,000 is 4,000,000.

Meaning 20,000,000 Xbox owners haven't bought an Xbox 360 yet.

Many are waiting for Halo.

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[QUOTE="csliney"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]I hate to say this, because I'm not a fan of Halo...but when Halo 3 launches, the number of 360s sold will skyrocket.  It will be ridiculous.  If Wii surpasses 360 b4 Halo 3 launches, then 360 will surpass Wii again after Halo 3 launches.  We can debate 360 sales all we want, but the fact of the matter is that when Halo 3 launches, the holiday 360 console sales season could TRIPLE in sales of the previous holiday season. fatzombiepigeon

I think people over estimate this franchise, it has awsome critical acclaim and it does sell well but it did not help the first xbox sell anymore units than 20% of what the PS2 managed to shift.  I would imagine the majority of people waiting for Halo3 already own a 360 and play GoW on it.

Actually, MS recently stated that roughly 40% of 360 owners owned an original Xbox.

40% of roughly 10,000,000 is 4,000,000.

Meaning 20,000,000 Xbox owners haven't bought an Xbox 360 yet.

Many are waiting for Halo.

 

By this logic, there are 100 mil PS2 owners that are waiting for MGS4 and FFXII to buy a PS3...right?

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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"][QUOTE="csliney"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]I hate to say this, because I'm not a fan of Halo...but when Halo 3 launches, the number of 360s sold will skyrocket.  It will be ridiculous.  If Wii surpasses 360 b4 Halo 3 launches, then 360 will surpass Wii again after Halo 3 launches.  We can debate 360 sales all we want, but the fact of the matter is that when Halo 3 launches, the holiday 360 console sales season could TRIPLE in sales of the previous holiday season. el_rika

I think people over estimate this franchise, it has awsome critical acclaim and it does sell well but it did not help the first xbox sell anymore units than 20% of what the PS2 managed to shift.  I would imagine the majority of people waiting for Halo3 already own a 360 and play GoW on it.

Actually, MS recently stated that roughly 40% of 360 owners owned an original Xbox.

40% of roughly 10,000,000 is 4,000,000.

Meaning 20,000,000 Xbox owners haven't bought an Xbox 360 yet.

Many are waiting for Halo.

 

By this logic, there are 100 mil PS2 owners that are waiting for MGS4 and FFXII to buy a PS3...right?

No.

Amazng assumption n your part, Mr.Logic, but I was showing that many who had an original xbox hadn't boughta new one.

Dosn't mean they all will.

Again, outstanding assumption you made about me on your part.