Xbox 360 wins again when it comes to high quality Multiplat games.

In truth, these issues barely registered on the radar for me; they had zero impact on the game experience. What matters is that the brilliantly realised city of Rapture is diminished on PS3 - first of all with a reduction in resolution - a drop from 720p to 680p, and secondly by the inclusion of an utterly useless, detail-destroying blur effect that kills fine detail. Yup, the dreaded Vaseline effect is back, once again lowering picture quality for PS3 owners with absolutely zero benefit whatsoever.

2K says on its forum that the blur is there to improve performance, but fails to explain how an additional post-processing effect that must require additional CPU or GPU cycles can actually speed up a game that is already running slower than its Xbox 360 equivalent. In the like-for-like sections captured for this feature, the PS3 version was far more prone to dropping down to 20fps at any given moment, even on the undersea voyage intro sequence, whereas the 360 game does a pretty good job of staying at the requisite 30 frames per second.

good for X360.

does not stop a PS3 owner from enjoying the game(s).

Technicalities that the majority of gamers don't give a crap about. All i know is that Bioshock on PS3 looks great, runs great and is fun as hell.

If this stuff makes anyone happy, i say good for them.:)

No, they don't.

Is the PC suddenly not a platform now?

I'm not even hiding behind the PC, you're just blatantly ignoring it.

Besides, most of the time the difference between PS3/360 multiplats is very minimal... It isn't even enough for GS to score one higher or lower than the other. Most people don't care about very, very slightly superior multiplat graphics when they buy a system, they look at its exclusives.

good for X360.

does not stop a PS3 owner from enjoying the game(s).

xxThyLordxx

Actually in this case it does make Bioshock much less enjoyable. I played and finished it on the 360 then stupidly sold it to a friend and not long after I found myself longing to play it again. So, when I heard about the PS3 version I though I would hold off for that version. What I found appals me. The graphics are much worse and there are many noticeable frame rate drops that get very annoying after a while. From what I have played of both, the PS3 version is terrible compared to the 360 version which disappoints me because I thought it would be able to run exactly the same on both.

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

good for X360.

does not stop a PS3 owner from enjoying the game(s).

_Pinbot_

Actually in this case it does make Bioshock much less enjoyable. I played and finished it on the 360 then stupidly sold it to a friend and not long after I found myself longing to play it again. So, when I heard about the PS3 version I though I would hold off for that version. What I found appals me. The graphics are much worse and there are many noticeable frame rate drops that get very annoying after a while. From what I have played of both, the PS3 version is terrible compared to the 360 version which disappoints me because I thought it would be able to run exactly the same on both.

thats because you've played both. people who have not, wont know the difference.

so you use bioshock to prove this?

when dead space and other multiplats have been identical on both platforms?

guess it helps you sleep at night

ALSO it scored AAA for ps3....so who cares? it obviously affects you somehow

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

good for X360.

does not stop a PS3 owner from enjoying the game(s).

_Pinbot_

Actually in this case it does make Bioshock much less enjoyable. I played and finished it on the 360 then stupidly sold it to a friend and not long after I found myself longing to play it again. So, when I heard about the PS3 version I though I would hold off for that version. What I found appals me. The graphics are much worse and there are many noticeable frame rate drops that get very annoying after a while. From what I have played of both, the PS3 version is terrible compared to the 360 version which disappoints me because I thought it would be able to run exactly the same on both.

I didnt think decreased load times and decreased graphics could hurt someone so much.

I Bought bioshock (look at my sig) its amazing! even the 360 version is better,i still like (plus the new diffiuclty and challenge rooms of some sort)

Wow i don't think PS3 owners could care less lol, i own both consoles and let me tell you the PS3 overall is the better console. End of discussion.daftdog

[QUOTE="daftdog"]Wow i don't think PS3 owners could care less lol, i own both consoles and let me tell you the PS3 overall is the better console. End of discussion.Eyezonmii

so he prefers his ps3 over his xbox360 and that = him being a cow?

gotchya

[QUOTE="mbrockway"]Unreal Engine 3 hates PS3. It likes lots of video ram, ports from 360 to PS3 using it just don't fit in the 256mb vram without cutting down. Simple as that.
Eyezonmii

PS3 has 512, just split and harder to access, plus the OS takes up more than the 360's. It can be worked around, depends on the devs.

Not really within the confines of the UE3 engine though. Maybe if both were being made simultaneously they'd take the ram into account with the textures, but the engine itself is not flexible enough to allow the devs to do that kind of optimisation. Its why I hate it, personally. There are just much better engines out there for multiplats (EA's, Ubi's, Capcom's, and Criterion's for example).

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="daftdog"]Wow i don't think PS3 owners could care less lol, i own both consoles and let me tell you the PS3 overall is the better console. End of discussion.superjim42

so he prefers his ps3 over his xbox360 and that = him being a cow?

gotchya

his reply came of as ignorant and fanboyish, he could have said it nicely with an IMO...but decided to state it like it was some fact.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="mbrockway"]Unreal Engine 3 hates PS3. It likes lots of video ram, ports from 360 to PS3 using it just don't fit in the 256mb vram without cutting down. Simple as that.
mbrockway

PS3 has 512, just split and harder to access, plus the OS takes up more than the 360's. It can be worked around, depends on the devs.

Not really within the confines of the UE3 engine though. Maybe if both were being made simultaneously they'd take the ram into account with the textures, but the engine itself is not flexible enough to allow the devs to do that kind of optimisation. Its why I hate it, personally. There are just much better engines out there for multiplats (EA's, Ubi's, Capcom's, and Criterion's for example).

this!

unreal engine 3 was made with the pc in mind. that means the xbox360 fits into the structure cos it programs like a pc does.

other engines such as far cry 2's dunia engine, EA's engine, Ubisofts ngines all prove the ps3 can run just fine

the ps3 is built completely differently.

since 360 has a more powerful GPU than PS3

the multi-platform games will always looks better on 360, especailly when it comes normal mapping

I think it's a known fact by now

I bought my 60gb PS3 at launch, and thought it was a superior console, but after 2 years of inspection ....

the final verdict is clearly here, when it comes to graphic, 360 is the king !!

and I still keep my PS3 of course, for Blu-ray and exclusive titles

since 360 has a more powerful GPU than PS3

the multi-platform games will always looks better on 360, especailly when it comes normal mapping

I think it's a known fact by now

I bought my 60gb PS3 at launch, and thought it was a superior console, but after 2 years of inspection ....

the final verdict is clearly here, when it comes to graphic, 360 is the king !!

and I still keep my PS3 of course, for Blu-ray and exclusive titles

amourkiss

you don't understand.

only reason 360 muliplats end up being a bit better is due to easier hardware and its overall PC-like structure. Most game also have the 360 as lead platform, being another reason.

you also forget about Cell, when programmed right with the RSX, Cell can help the unit and take some of its work load with operrations when needed, some say when combined it somwhat does more than the 360's GPU. but we rarley see anything, due to its different design, that many devs aren't used too, and the ones are, need to throw in serious money to work it out. Its why PS3 exclusive always look better.

since 360 has a more powerful GPU than PS3

the multi-platform games will always looks better on 360, especailly when it comes normal mapping

I think it's a known fact by now

I bought my 60gb PS3 at launch, and thought it was a superior console, but after 2 years of inspection ....

the final verdict is clearly here, when it comes to graphic, 360 is the king !!

and I still keep my PS3 of course, for Blu-ray and exclusive titles

amourkiss

Because of course DMC4 on PS3 had worse normal mapping than the 360 version. :roll: Its up to the game engine more than the hardware this gen, they're that close. Of course an engine favoring one platform will outperform a port to a platform its not made for. NFS2 (?) back on the PS2 was better than the GC version even though it was the weaker platform.

[QUOTE="amourkiss"]

since 360 has a more powerful GPU than PS3

the multi-platform games will always looks better on 360, especailly when it comes normal mapping

I think it's a known fact by now

I bought my 60gb PS3 at launch, and thought it was a superior console, but after 2 years of inspection ....

the final verdict is clearly here, when it comes to graphic, 360 is the king !!

and I still keep my PS3 of course, for Blu-ray and exclusive titles

mbrockway

Because of course DMC4 on PS3 had worse normal mapping than the 360 version. :roll: Its up to the game engine more than the hardware this gen, they're that close. Of course an engine favoring one platform will outperform a port to a platform its not made for. NFS2 (?) back on the PS2 was better than the GC version even though it was the weaker platform.

if a game engine can help that much, SONY needs a strong one quick

it's been 2 years, and PS3 version of multi-platform still having inferior graphics, and often loaded with bugs

since I own both console, with the same money spend, of course I will go with the better version

I think PS3's last chance to demostrate its graphical power is next year's Killzone2

hope it will be good

No, they don't.

Is the PC suddenly not a platform now?

I'm not even hiding behind the PC, you're just blatantly ignoring it.

WAIW

Guys let the 360 guys have the multiplates geez. They got to have something to gloat about besides Geow lol. Ps3 owners know quite well what we have and what kind of games we get with exclusives and how great they look, time and time again. Drakes fortune, Mgs4, GTp5, R&C:tod and so on.

Bottom line is that the slight diff. between ps3 and 360 in graphics isn't nearly as big of a difference as pc to 360. So 360 guys you play a inferior version aswell, did that stop your enjoyment of those games? Think not. But once again if it makes you happy to think yall have this HUGE advantage in multiplates then so be it. I will only be concerned when I see a huge difference in exclusives go to the 360. And as of right now that is not the case, exclusives on the ps3 kill the 360's exclusives graphically and we can brag about more than 1 game.