Xbox 720 2013

Fall launch 2013 seems just about right MS will not let project cafe get to far ahead and they want to get out of the gate before PS4. I think this is going to end up being fairly accurate. I predict 8 core CPU 6 gigs ram 1TB hard drive custom built ATI DX12 8 series GPU. And here is the kicker I'm expecting some type of upgraded GPU either by advanced cloud technology to help boost graphics in the future or a port for a mod chip to be added to give the system a graphics boost to truly make the 720 go for 10+ yearsSpunkDust

Ya except I'm not paying $1000 for it. And I'm sure most people wouldn't either.

[QUOTE="SpunkDust"]Fall launch 2013 seems just about right MS will not let project cafe get to far ahead and they want to get out of the gate before PS4. I think this is going to end up being fairly accurate. I predict 8 core CPU 6 gigs ram 1TB hard drive custom built ATI DX12 8 series GPU. And here is the kicker I'm expecting some type of upgraded GPU either by advanced cloud technology to help boost graphics in the future or a port for a mod chip to be added to give the system a graphics boost to truly make the 720 go for 10+ yearsEliteM0nk3y

Ya except I'm not paying $1000 for it. And I'm sure most people wouldn't either.

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

magnax1

Developers have been screaming for next gen to have 8 gigs to be safe for years I'm betting MS and Sony settle for 6 gigs.

proof? or its false

based on claims already made by microsoft " and i quote kenict is the half way point for 360 go speak to microsoft lol

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

magnax1

Are you talking about GPU ram or just ram in general. Because I think 4Gb is actually min for system ram anymore or at least mid.

proof? or its false

based on claims already made by microsoft " and i quote kenict is the half way point for 360 go speak to microsoft lol

mariokart64fan

Do you really think MS and Sony will sit back for many years why Project Cafe just sells millions? Heck no they will join in. Besides why would MS tip off the compitition as to when they are launching this soon.

Fall launch 2013 seems just about right MS will not let project cafe get to far ahead and they want to get out of the gate before PS4. I think this is going to end up being fairly accurate. I predict 8 core CPU 6 gigs ram 1TB hard drive custom built ATI DX12 8 series GPU. And here is the kicker I'm expecting some type of upgraded GPU either by advanced cloud technology to help boost graphics in the future or a port for a mod chip to be added to give the system a graphics boost to truly make the 720 go for 10+ yearsSpunkDust

This just in!

Based on factual claims made by the weed induced demons in my mind, the 360 is going to die next year and M$ is going to focus on casual games for handhelds. They also told me that i may become the God of Clowns, named Pooky the Mighty.

Those specs are way off the mark. Maybe you should go look at previous consoles and compare them to their PC counterparts of the time.

Those specs are way off the mark. Maybe you should go look at previous consoles and compare them to their PC counterparts of the time.

wolverine4262

I think these specs will hold fairly accurate.

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

AutoPilotOn

Are you talking about GPU ram or just ram in general. Because I think 4Gb is actually min for system ram anymore or at least mid.

Why would you need more then 4 gigs of ram (excluding the GPU, which would probably be another gig) I think the PS4 and 360 will go for 2-4 gig main, and 512 for GPU, or just do a combined system ram like 360 (I don't know if there is any advantage to that or not though) Consoles always get really gimpy on ram for whatever reason.

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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

magnax1

Are you talking about GPU ram or just ram in general. Because I think 4Gb is actually min for system ram anymore or at least mid.

Why would you need more then 4 gigs of ram (excluding the GPU, which would probably be another gig) I think the PS4 and 360 will go for 2-4 gig main, and 512 for GPU, or just do a combined system ram like 360 (I don't know if there is any advantage to that or not though) Consoles always get really gimpy on ram for whatever reason.

I'm no tech expert but isn't that expensive

proof? or its false

based on claims already made by microsoft " and i quote kenict is the half way point for 360 go speak to microsoft lol

mariokart64fan

So? Just because the Xbox 3 releases doesn't make the Xbox 360 dead. Hell, there are still people making PS2 games and it's been almost an entire two generations.

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

proof? or its false

based on claims already made by microsoft " and i quote kenict is the half way point for 360 go speak to microsoft lol

Do you really think MS and Sony will sit back for many years why Project Cafe just sells millions? Heck no they will join in. Besides why would MS tip off the compitition as to when they are launching this soon.

im guessing

intel quad core (wolfdale varient)/ibm quad core

4gb ram

nvidia 8800series

there wont be a dx11 console this gen its going to be dx10 and therefore basedf on vista.. ahaahha the hits keep on coming!

xbox .. vista WHATS THE DIFFERENCE!

[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="SpunkDust"]Fall launch 2013 seems just about right MS will not let project cafe get to far ahead and they want to get out of the gate before PS4. I think this is going to end up being fairly accurate. I predict 8 core CPU 6 gigs ram 1TB hard drive custom built ATI DX12 8 series GPU. And here is the kicker I'm expecting some type of upgraded GPU either by advanced cloud technology to help boost graphics in the future or a port for a mod chip to be added to give the system a graphics boost to truly make the 720 go for 10+ yearsSpunkDust

Ya except I'm not paying $1000 for it. And I'm sure most people wouldn't either.

That for $400? :| what kind of world do you live in dude, cause I want to be in that world. I'd love everything to be magically cheap :D In fact lets sell polar bears for $5 too, I'm sure they're fantastic almost-extinct pets. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but a good 8 core CPU + DX12 8 series GPU is over $500 alone yet alone the costs for manufacturing the console, and the 1TB, and 6 gigs ram.

Here's what I think:

quad core CPU

modded GTX 470

500GB HDD

8GB DDR4/5 RAM

at around that price point.

A GTX 470 alone is good enough because it's at 6x better than the PS3 and 360 GPU's, plus they'd be modded and specifically made to work well with the CPU and such (good combination) so it'd work very efficiently. We don't need GTX 580's (although it would be nice). It's possible that we will get GTX 580's though, it just depends on the price of the GTX 580 in 2013-2014.

Fall launch 2013 seems just about right MS will not let project cafe get to far ahead and they want to get out of the gate before PS4. I think this is going to end up being fairly accurate. I predict 8 core CPU 6 gigs ram 1TB hard drive custom built ATI DX12 8 series GPU. And here is the kicker I'm expecting some type of upgraded GPU either by advanced cloud technology to help boost graphics in the future or a port for a mod chip to be added to give the system a graphics boost to truly make the 720 go for 10+ yearsSpunkDust

Did I read that right? 8 core CPU? You must be kidding.

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]

Are you talking about GPU ram or just ram in general. Because I think 4Gb is actually min for system ram anymore or at least mid.

wolverine4262

Why would you need more then 4 gigs of ram (excluding the GPU, which would probably be another gig) I think the PS4 and 360 will go for 2-4 gig main, and 512 for GPU, or just do a combined system ram like 360 (I don't know if there is any advantage to that or not though) Consoles always get really gimpy on ram for whatever reason.

I know that, but it's still a complete gimp, much much more so then the CPUs and GPUs they put in. An OS only takes about a gig of ram to run in the background (or less depending on what OS) so PCs are basically running games on 3 gigs of ram today, while developers are forced to stuff the same games into 512 mb on the consoles, and Consoles were behind on ram from the very start. 512 MB is like 2002 PC standards, lol. Even if it is pretty fast ram, it's a gimp.

[QUOTE="SpunkDust"]

[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

Ya except I'm not paying $1000 for it. And I'm sure most people wouldn't either.

XVision84

That for $400? :| what kind of world do you live in dude, cause I want to be in that world. I'd love everything to be magically cheap :D In fact lets sell polar bears for $5 too, I'm sure they're fantastic almost-extinct pets. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but a good 8 core CPU + DX12 8 series GPU is over $500 alone yet alone the costs for manufacturing the console, and the 1TB, and 6 gigs ram.

Here's what I think:

quad core CPU

modded GTX 470

500GB HDD

8GB DDR4/5 RAM

at around that price point.

A GTX 470 alone is good enough because it's at 6x better than the PS3 and 360 GPU's, plus they'd be modded and specifically made to work well with the CPU and such (good combination) so it'd work very efficiently. We don't need GTX 580's (although it would be nice). It's possible that we will get GTX 580's though, it just depends on the price of the GTX 580 in 2013-2014.

I am not saying his specs are accurate, but you do realise that MS/Sony/big compaines spends way less on each indivdual component then costumers buying retail right? I think it will be somewhere between where you two are stating. Unless MS/Sony go the wii route.

[QUOTE="SpunkDust"]Fall launch 2013 seems just about right MS will not let project cafe get to far ahead and they want to get out of the gate before PS4. I think this is going to end up being fairly accurate. I predict 8 core CPU 6 gigs ram 1TB hard drive custom built ATI DX12 8 series GPU. And here is the kicker I'm expecting some type of upgraded GPU either by advanced cloud technology to help boost graphics in the future or a port for a mod chip to be added to give the system a graphics boost to truly make the 720 go for 10+ yearsVari3ty

Did I read that right? 8 core CPU? You must be kidding.

in 2013 the 720 will probably at best have 4 core b/c the wii successor will be 4 core as well and console multiplats set the standard by which the exclsuives are judged..

the ps3 successor and xbxo successor will need to adjust to fit as many dev. are wanting to work with newer tech and with the wii's successor basically its a grab for the attention from developers.

in short the ps3 and xbox 360 cant give it up anymore for developers and nintendo is making alot of promises to give them what they want if they ask nicely (aka with their games and developement teams). iff the cafe or w/e its to be called can satisfy the appetites of the developers.. the ps3 and 360 will lose exclsuives like nobodies buisness and THAT is when your going to start seeing nintendo get up in the world again.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="SpunkDust"] No I'm betting $399.99 launch price.

MC3887

That for $400? :| what kind of world do you live in dude, cause I want to be in that world. I'd love everything to be magically cheap :D In fact lets sell polar bears for $5 too, I'm sure they're fantastic almost-extinct pets. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but a good 8 core CPU + DX12 8 series GPU is over $500 alone yet alone the costs for manufacturing the console, and the 1TB, and 6 gigs ram.

Here's what I think:

quad core CPU

modded GTX 470

500GB HDD

8GB DDR4/5 RAM

at around that price point.

A GTX 470 alone is good enough because it's at 6x better than the PS3 and 360 GPU's, plus they'd be modded and specifically made to work well with the CPU and such (good combination) so it'd work very efficiently. We don't need GTX 580's (although it would be nice). It's possible that we will get GTX 580's though, it just depends on the price of the GTX 580 in 2013-2014.

I am not saying his specs are accurate, but you do realise that MS/Sony/big compaines spends way less on each indivdual component then costumers buying retail right? I think it will be somewhere between where you two are stating. Unless MS/Sony go the wii route.

Of course, they're big corproations, buy modded chips (so they're specially made) and they order them in the truckloads, so the price is a lot less. But those specs are way too costly.

Its also important to take into consideration the Wii effect. After the last console launches, Sony (and MS to a lesser extent), lost a sizable amount of money. Its fairly easy to assume that with the next cycle, they will scale back the technology.wolverine4262

I think to a certain extent they will. Microsoft stuffed as much technology as possible into the 360 and Xbox as possible, and I think Sony almost expected to loose some market share to win the Blu Ray HD DVD battle (either that or they were stupid) I don't think either of them are going to be stuffing technology or selling market share for one product to make another product more marketable, but instead I think they'll try and make their consoles longer lasting instead of trying to make the games look as good as possible. So maybe they'll put a lower end GPU in with high end features and focus more on Ram and CPU, because I think Console cycles will end up lasting longer from now on until Consoles just cease to exist in their current form.

[QUOTE="SpunkDust"]

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

proof? or its false

based on claims already made by microsoft " and i quote kenict is the half way point for 360 go speak to microsoft lol

mariokart64fan

Do you really think MS and Sony will sit back for many years why Project Cafe just sells millions? Heck no they will join in. Besides why would MS tip off the compitition as to when they are launching this soon.

For starters, TC never said any of this was true. Just his own speculation. As for Kinect, by the time release season 2013 gets here, Kinect will be three years old. I don't think it'll still be selling like hot cakes in three years. And if they get their contracts right, they can have a fairly powerful console at not too high of a cost. You just can't expect a next-gen console with drastically improved hardware to release at what current gen consoles cost now. $550-$600 sounds reasonable if they include the hardware they should.

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

That for $400? :| what kind of world do you live in dude, cause I want to be in that world. I'd love everything to be magically cheap :D In fact lets sell polar bears for $5 too, I'm sure they're fantastic almost-extinct pets. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but a good 8 core CPU + DX12 8 series GPU is over $500 alone yet alone the costs for manufacturing the console, and the 1TB, and 6 gigs ram.

Here's what I think:

quad core CPU

modded GTX 470

500GB HDD

8GB DDR4/5 RAM

at around that price point.

A GTX 470 alone is good enough because it's at 6x better than the PS3 and 360 GPU's, plus they'd be modded and specifically made to work well with the CPU and such (good combination) so it'd work very efficiently. We don't need GTX 580's (although it would be nice). It's possible that we will get GTX 580's though, it just depends on the price of the GTX 580 in 2013-2014.

XVision84

I am not saying his specs are accurate, but you do realise that MS/Sony/big compaines spends way less on each indivdual component then costumers buying retail right? I think it will be somewhere between where you two are stating. Unless MS/Sony go the wii route.

Of course, they're big corproations, buy modded chips (so they're specially made) and they order them in the truckloads, so the price is a lot less. But those specs are way too costly.

Thbe thing is neither you nor I know the cost they pay for the components, I could see it being anywhere from 25%-75% of what we pay. So it is just speculation(possibly very off at that).

Official leaked Xbox 720 Specs:

3 megaton CPU

eXtremax™ GPU with hyperblast processing and laser rendering

4 GB of Turbo Ram

Superbyte HDD

Plasmatron disc drive

Official leaked Xbox 720 Specs:

3 megaton CPU

eXtremax™ GPU with hyperblast processing and laser rendering

4 GB of Turbo Ram

Superbyte HDD

Plasmatron disc drive

Timstuff

ahahahahaha

this amde me rotflmao like nothing else today :lol:

Official leaked Xbox 720 Specs:

3 megaton CPU

eXtremax™ GPU with hyperblast processing and laser rendering

4 GB of Turbo Ram

Superbyte HDD

Plasmatron disc drive

Timstuff

Ya I saw that on the onion today, cant wait.

Official leaked Xbox 720 Specs:

3 megaton CPU

eXtremax™ GPU with hyperblast processing and laser rendering

4 GB of Turbo Ram

Superbyte HDD

Plasmatron disc drive

Timstuff

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

I am not saying his specs are accurate, but you do realise that MS/Sony/big compaines spends way less on each indivdual component then costumers buying retail right? I think it will be somewhere between where you two are stating. Unless MS/Sony go the wii route.

MC3887

Of course, they're big corproations, buy modded chips (so they're specially made) and they order them in the truckloads, so the price is a lot less. But those specs are way too costly.

Thbe thing is neither you nor I know the cost they pay for the components, I could see it being anywhere from 25%-75% of what we pay. So it is just speculation(possibly very off at that).

What i heard was it was going to be in 2015 i could be wrong

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Of course, they're big corproations, buy modded chips (so they're specially made) and they order them in the truckloads, so the price is a lot less. But those specs are way too costly.

Dynafrom

Thbe thing is neither you nor I know the cost they pay for the components, I could see it being anywhere from 25%-75% of what we pay. So it is just speculation(possibly very off at that).

Hmm interesting, not that I don't believe but how do you know?

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

magnax1

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

djsifer01

Plenty of time to save $500.00 for a launch Xbox 720 (just have a pack in game this time. MS) So if MS just doubles the power of the current Xbox 360 s. People will be happy. At least that is good enough to fend off Nintendo. Since the wii 2 is 1.5 the power of an xbox 360. (apparently)

So November 13 2013. A good time to launch the nest Xbox

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

djsifer01

What game requires more then 2 gigs of ram these days?

I dont expect the next set of consoles to have much more than 2-4gb of memory, probably 2, and nothing more than an ATI 5000 or Nvidia 400 series card....I think they will still lag behind

They aren't coming out so soon. With your specs your looking a thousand+ console. Which defeats half the purpose of a console

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="MC3887"]

Thbe thing is neither you nor I know the cost they pay for the components, I could see it being anywhere from 25%-75% of what we pay. So it is just speculation(possibly very off at that).

MC3887

Hmm interesting, not that I don't believe but how do you know?

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="magnax1"]

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]If your taking system memory, 4 GB is the minimum is systems these days. Thats a nice pipe dream TC but i doubt it will be that powerful of a console.djsifer01

For gaming anything above 4 is overkill, yes other things more is better but gaming no

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="magnax1"]

6 gigs is massive overkill. Computers these days need 4 gigs at the very very maximum.

magnax1

What game requires more then 2 gigs of ram these days?

Based on what we saw last gen, i don't see we will see a console come out above the 500 dollar mark

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]If your taking system memory, 4 GB is the minimum is systems these days. Thats a nice pipe dream TC but i doubt it will be that powerful of a console.djsifer01

I guess so, but I looked up Crysis 2 minimum, it's 2 gigs, Mafia 2 is 1.5, Bad company 2 is 2, Shogun 2 is only 1 Gig. If you built a new PC today you'd probably want 6 gigs so it would last a while, but nothing needs more then 3 to run very smoothly.