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#1 Obviously_Right
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1. Confirmed Microsoft is actively attempting to get developers to not mention PS4 versions. If they don't say "OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE" expect a PS4 version.

2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember.

3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so.


4. DRM plans are actually worse than what they've stated.

5. Mirror's Edge 2 at MS conference.

6. Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.

7. Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks?

8. Live paywall still there.

9. Dead Rising 3, and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game at MS conference.

10. No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed.

11. No DRM info for PS4.

LINK

Yeah, it looks strange but everything this guy has leaked has come to fruition. No reason to disbelieve this.

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#2 drakekratos
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 I hate DRM, so thankfully PS4 will be out this year too
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#3 Nengo_Flow
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Sony will be charging for PSN on the PS4. Im not saying they'll be charging to let you play your games online, like M$, but for most PSN features. They announces alot of cool sharing features for PSN and its going to take them alot of $$ to maintain them. So i expect them to charge for that.
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#4 drakekratos
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You will still be able to play online for free on PS4. PlayStation Plus will obviously still cost money, but its worth it since it gives you free games.
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#5 shawn30
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Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

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#6 casharmy
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Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

shawn30

for once I can agree with shawn...chill tomorrow is E3

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#8 Chutebox
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Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

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No joke..
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#9 Obviously_Right
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We aren't talking rumours here tho. This is as good a confirmation as we're gonna get before E3.

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#10 Midnightshade29
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2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember. 3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so. "Buh buh sony has to do it too, because the publishers idea man...it was all the publishers man....really it was...yes they have to do it too. you see..." What will them lems say to this to make them feal better. This is even more in support that sony can do what they want.
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#11 k2theswiss
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if they want people believe in the power of the cloud then they should really made it always online DMR.
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#12 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="shawn30"]

Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

casharmy

for once I can agree with shawn...chill tomorrow is E3

Why? E3 isn't going to tell us anything we don't already know about MS DRM... They will probably not even bring it up and try to fill you with game coverage (and lots of multiplats making them appear exclusive) so you don't think about the Issues... . I know damn well that idiot lems here that have been against the DRM will not care once games get shown... There allegiance to the evil empire is sad, so sad.
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#13 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Sony will be charging for PSN on the PS4. Im not saying they'll be charging to let you play your games online, like M$, but for most PSN features. They announces alot of cool sharing features for PSN and its going to take them alot of $$ to maintain them. So i expect them to charge for that.

Which is fine. I already pay for ps+.. you know why? Because it gives you stuff ,not prevents access to stuff. its all extras, auto updates and stuff included. ONline play should be a standard feature open to everyone, that includes netflix and stuff like that too. Anything you have to pay a 3rd party for you should not be "Taxed" on like MS does with live and its paywall. lems eat there bs up though as they bowl to their fumbling master don matrix and his crony larry herb...
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember. 3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so. "Buh buh sony has to do it too, because the publishers idea man...it was all the publishers man....really it was...yes they have to do it too. you see..." What will them lems say to this to make them feal better. This is even more in support that sony can do what they want.

Exactly what I said, this was MS, not the pubs. The pubs probably acted as cheerleaders, but they weren't strong arming MS into this. MS has a history of this kind of BS and this is just the latest chapter. Still, I'm keeping my eye on Sony, but this does make things look better for the Sony camp.
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In exactly 12h a shitstorm will rise. Can't wait, will be funny as fk
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#16 xXCombatWombat
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Well... on the bright side we have Mirrors Edge 2 to look forward to!

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]You will still be able to play online for free on PS4. PlayStation Plus will obviously still cost money, but its worth it since it gives you free games.

Pay to get free games? Makes no sense! If you pay it's not free. Sony provides you with games to play with a membership to Playstation+. It's a better deal but SCEA needs to get better stuff.
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#18 navyguy21
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So the day has come where fanboys will believe anything they read on a forum without any credible evidence to back it up. Yea, real smart guys...
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#19 Basinboy
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The ownage is already palpable.

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#20 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]So the day has come where fanboys will believe anything they read on a forum without any credible evidence to back it up. Yea, real smart guys...

uggh this guy is usually fairly accurate with his leaks, of course your a raging fanboy so it wouldn't matter to you
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]So the day has come where fanboys will believe anything they read on a forum without any credible evidence to back it up. Yea, real smart guys...

uggh this guy is usually fairly accurate with his leaks, of course your a raging fanboy so it wouldn't matter to you

The nerve....
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#22 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]So the day has come where fanboys will believe anything they read on a forum without any credible evidence to back it up. Yea, real smart guys...

uggh this guy is usually fairly accurate with his leaks, of course your a raging fanboy so it wouldn't matter to you

The nerve....

yeah i went there and after microsoft conference tomorrow, i'll be back here to finish you off.
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="shawn30"]

Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

Midnightshade29

for once I can agree with shawn...chill tomorrow is E3

Why? E3 isn't going to tell us anything we don't already know about MS DRM... They will probably not even bring it up and try to fill you with game coverage (and lots of multiplats making them appear exclusive) so you don't think about the Issues... . I know damn well that idiot lems here that have been against the DRM will not care once games get shown... There allegiance to the evil empire is sad, so sad.

God, that would be horrible. I wonder just how many people are willing to sell out over video games.
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] uggh this guy is usually fairly accurate with his leaks, of course your a raging fanboy so it wouldn't matter to you

The nerve....

yeah i went there and after microsoft conference tomorrow, i'll be back here to finish you off.

lol, how old are you? Do you want me to meet you on the playground after school? :P
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#25 NEWMAHAY
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for those of you wondering about cboat legitimacy. He was the one who leaked xbox 360 details (specs and hardware/hddvd) before its release. Every detail he spoke of the 360 came true after the xbox 360 was unveiled. He is verified source

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3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so.

Obviously_Right

 

this is exactly what I was starting to think, and this makes alot of sense. It's really getting to the point where xbox owners almost don't even own the games anymore. I mean you have to sign online to play ofline, you cant sell the used game like you want to, and you cant even play the online portion of it unless you pay for xbox live, so what the heck do you own? The entire thing is basicly renting games.

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#27 NEWMAHAY
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Anyways I am excited to see Mirrors Edge 2
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#28 senses_fail_06
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Number 1 made me literally lol. To think that they would do that is so funny.
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#29 Bren128
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How long before anonymous destroys ms and hands out free digital games to everyone?

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="drakekratos"]You will still be able to play online for free on PS4. PlayStation Plus will obviously still cost money, but its worth it since it gives you free games.

Pay to get free games? Makes no sense! If you pay it's not free. Sony provides you with games to play with a membership to Playstation+. It's a better deal but SCEA needs to get better stuff.

Deus EX hr Machinarium Saints Row the 3rd Zero Escape: virtues last reward and orcs attack All for June In North America... Already the value for those titles alone is more than the $50 you pay for plus, that is for 1 month and you get a ton others in the instant game collection and more as the year goes on. I have gotten at least 30 some games over the last year alone ... its definatly good content... If those games aren't good (they are AAA, then what is in your mind? The company's policy you should be mad at is ms for not giving you anything for the $60 besides access to what should already be free.
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#31 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] The nerve....

yeah i went there and after microsoft conference tomorrow, i'll be back here to finish you off.

lol, how old are you? Do you want me to meet you on the playground after school? :P

old enough to watch you cry after the microsoft conference
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#32 NathanDrakeSwag
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Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

shawn30

These are not rumors. This is a very reliable source.

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#34 OmenUK
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To the tune of "Friends Will Be Friends" by Queen

Lems will be Lems
They're fanboys are in need of love, and want psychiatric care and attention
Lems will be Lems
Now console wars are won and XBone is lost
Hold out your hand 'And pay till the end - Lems will be Lems
 

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#35 babycakin
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Well if the majority are saying its pretty much deadlocked as true then I'll bite.

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"1. Confirmed Microsoft is actively attempting to get developers to not mention PS4 versions. If they don't say "OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE" expect a PS4 version." You mean the exact same thing that happens at every conference, every year, that happened at Sony's reveal as well?
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for those of you wondering about cboat legitimacy. He was the one who leaked xbox 360 details (specs and hardware/hddvd) before its release. Every detail he spoke of the 360 came true after the xbox 360 was unveiled. He is verified source

NEWMAHAY



I want to emphasize this. CBoaT also mentioned that the people he got his information from did not give him any more details out of fear for their jobs.

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ahhh thats why they canceledQ/A roundtable dodging huh.... DRM part 2 coming ohh MS @ gamescon everything makes sense now... CBoA u are gold CBOAT: You thought I'd help out on specifics? I'll confirm what you get, try to keep you on the right track, but that's all. Are you guys really working? [GAF nods] How much? GAF: I don't know maybe sixteen, eighteen hours a day--we've got sources at GiantBomb, Adam Sessler, Weekend Confirmed, Game Trailers, but it's still drying up. CBOAT: Then there must be something, mustn't there. Look, forget the myths the media's created about Microsoft--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand. GAF: If you don't like them, why won't you be more concrete with me? CBOAT: Because the press stinks --history on the run, that's all they're interested in. You come up with anything? GAF: On April 19, 2010, Phil Harrison resigned from Atari's board of directors. On March 13, 2012, Harrison joined the intercative team at Microsoft. Yesterday, Geoff Keighley tweeted that Spike would have a giraffe at E3. That doesn't exactly have the ring of truth, since the animal was at Spike's Guys Choice Awards. Don Mattrick's been found--there was talk 3rd parties had 25 million in cash in a paper bag not show multiplatform games on PS4. CBOAT: Follow the money. Always follow the money. GAF: What do you mean? Where? CBOAT: Oh, I can't tell you that. GAF: But you could tell me that. CBOAT: No, I have to do this my way. You tell me what you know, and I'll confirm. I'll keep you in the right direction if I can, but that's all. Just... follow the money. justamazing.....
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Microsoft Xbox division needs a total overhaul, those guys are not bright at all

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#40 darklight4
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Come E3 we may know if MS payed any 3rd party devs. If they don't mention  PS4 versions on games we know are multiplats we'll know for sure.

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If crazy buttocks said so, its true. He leaked Titan for Xbone a while back and leaked info about the Xbox 360 before it was announced.
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If crazy buttocks said so, its true. He leaked Titan for Xbone a while back and leaked info about the Xbox 360 before it was announced.Floppy_Jim

 

I was about to take this with a grain of salt but Cboat track record is very very very good.  Also when that leaked Titan info came out he said that that MS paid for a one year exclusive deal.

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#43 EPaul
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This is from Cboat who has a very good track record with leaks

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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Sony will be charging for PSN on the PS4. Im not saying they'll be charging to let you play your games online, like M$, but for most PSN features. They announces alot of cool sharing features for PSN and its going to take them alot of $$ to maintain them. So i expect them to charge for that.

Which is fine. I already pay for ps+.. you know why? Because it gives you stuff ,not prevents access to stuff. its all extras, auto updates and stuff included. ONline play should be a standard feature open to everyone, that includes netflix and stuff like that too. Anything you have to pay a 3rd party for you should not be "Taxed" on like MS does with live and its paywall. lems eat there bs up though as they bowl to their fumbling master don matrix and his crony larry herb...

I agree with you brother! Also all the free ps3 games and vita games! I ll gladly pay for plus again. Funny story:I have one ps3 controller, and my friend borrowed it from me for some days. I wanted to watch netflix and i forgot i didnt have my ps3 controller ( i had only been using netflix on my ps3) so i said i ll just use it on my xbox, when i downloaded the app they mofos wanted me to pay for gold in order to use that feature. I was like f** that. Gold is a scam and i will never pay for it.
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]So the day has come where fanboys will believe anything they read on a forum without any credible evidence to back it up. Yea, real smart guys...

Cboat = most legitimate source from NeoGAF, ever.
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for those of you wondering about cboat legitimacy. He was the one who leaked xbox 360 details (specs and hardware/hddvd) before its release. Every detail he spoke of the 360 came true after the xbox 360 was unveiled. He is verified source

NEWMAHAY

He usually ends up being wrong about 1 out of every 4 leaks. Partly because he leaks things so far in advance. He got owned bad a few days ago when he started the under clocking rumor. But he is usually pretty reliable.

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#47 Miketheman83
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I really hate DRM and the new Microsoft policies. Having said that, the Xbone still seems more appealing to me than the PS4.

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#48 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="shawn30"]

Thankfully E3 is tomorrow. Enough of all the rumors, jeez. 

NathanDrakeSwag

These are not rumors. This is a very reliable source.

But they are still rumors no matter how reliable the source!
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#49 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]So the day has come where fanboys will believe anything they read on a forum without any credible evidence to back it up. Yea, real smart guys...

Cboat = most legitimate source from NeoGAF, ever.

He was just wrong last week...
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#50 Badosh
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Thanks buttocks.