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#1 dthach614
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Half of the so called features either dont work or work half ass.

Why do I still get matched up with players that I avoided on Xbox Live?

Why do everybody have have five stars or their reputation when half the players on Xbox live are racist? Why do when I give a player negative rep, his rep goes up to five star from 3 star?

The Gamerzone does not match you up with players with alike gamezone preference.

Matchmaking is the worst thing that has ever happen to online gaming. Matchmaking does not reduce lag by matching players according their "information" A lot of times it is laggy on live and a lot of time they give the player with the worst connection to be host. Matchmaking does not always similar skilled players together. What ever the system is, it aint working because i get matched with noobs a lot.

A lot of online game dont have the options of dedicated servers.

There's no custom games search in games like Halo 3, so you're force to play what ever the playlist choose for you. Boooooo

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

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#2 Eddie-Vedder
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You know what I would like to see? I get disconnected from live every once in a while, around x-mas it was frequent, they should have some sort of feature that let's you get back into the same game you were playing. It sucks when a team mate get's dc'd cause you know he's not coming back, it's a paying service I find that super lame. On the pc you just jump back into the server and your pwning again.
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#3 boxofwit
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It's still etter than PSN.
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#4 skrat_01
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Well I agree the matchmaking is overrated - though I like its concept, i'm not a fan of how it works in practice. Never the less Live is better than PSN, thats why it gets so much praise - and that it is TOTALLY intergrated into the 360; which makes it deserving of praise in this regard. However the online experience... well its hardly better than, i'd say quite worse, that on a platform like the PC. Hence why I cancelled my Gold Sub.
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I really don't get the Reputation thing :s
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#6 II_Seraphim_II
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Live isnt overrated, PSN is just underrated. Both are great services. Live offers alot more community tools, while PSN has first party dedicated servers and free online play. It just depends on what u prefer.
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#7 rogelio22
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It's still etter than PSN.boxofwit
if it was better i would still be paying for it!!!
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#8 metalgear-solid
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It' sure isn't worth the $50.
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#9 skrat_01
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Live isnt overrated, PSN is just underrated. Both are great services. Live offers alot more community tools, while PSN has first party dedicated servers and free online play. It just depends on what u prefer.II_Seraphim_II
Problem is with PSN online is kept at an arms length from full intergration like Live is, nor is it not nearly as well implemented. Not too say that its poor, it isn't - same goes with the games; titles like Warhawk are a blast to play.
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#10 Eyezonmii
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It's still etter than PSN.boxofwit
Notice how it wouldn't let you say "BETTER"...means it isn't. ;)
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#11 DeadEndPanda
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Half of the so called features either dont work or work half ass.

Why do I still get matched up with players that I avoided on Xbox Live?

Why do everybody have have five stars or their reputation when half the players on Xbox live are racist? Why do when I give a player negative rep, his rep goes up to five star from 3 star?

The Gamerzone does matched you up with players with alike gamezone preference.

Matchmaking is the worst thing that has ever happen to online gaming. Matchmaking does not reduce lag by matching players according their "information" A lot of times it is laggy on live and a lot of time they give the player with the worst connection to be host. Matchmaking does not always similar skilled players together. What ever the system is, it aint working because i get matched with noobs a lot.

A lot of online game dont have the options of dedicated servers.

There's no custom games search in games like Halo 3, so you're force to play what ever the playlist choose for you. Boooooo

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

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you get what you pay for

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Half of the so called features either dont work or work half ass.

Lie.

Why do I still get matched up with players that I avoided on Xbox Live?

Because it reduces the chance of being matched with them, it does not stop it completely, you can still mute them and not have to hear a word if you like, personally I'd rather have a game with an idiot than no game at all.

Why do everybody have have five stars or their reputation when half the players on Xbox live are racist? Why do when I give a player negative rep, his rep goes up to five star from 3 star?

Half the players are racist? So theres a 50/50 chance you or me is racist? Well I'm certainly not so get off my service you racist. If hes on 3 star hes only just joined, it seems to default to 5 stars the moment you get your first rep thing.

Matchmaking is the worst thing that has ever happen to online gaming. Matchmaking does not reduce lag by matching players according their "information" A lot of times it is laggy on live and a lot of time they give the player with the worst connection to be host. Matchmaking does not always similar skilled players together. What ever the system is, it aint working because i get matched with noobs a lot.

This is all opinion and none of it you can prove, if you're lagging get a better internet connection because it goes fine with me.

A lot of online game dont have the options of dedicated servers.

Same can be said for every online platform besides the PC, not a valid point.

There's no custom games search in games like Halo 3, so you're force to play what ever the playlist choose for you. Boooooo

Matter of opinion again, you can choose between playlists and veto games you do not want.

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

Then don't pay for it, I don't want a whiny racist on my games anyway. ;]

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My only problem with XBL is that, they lack some of the most BASIC features in online gaming, MM is a joke, i would rather choose my OWN game, rather than be stuck with 4 other noobs in Gears 2

I swear, sometimes the game puts me in the worst team (im Rank 3 in gears2) and it seems the game just stick me with a bunch of Rank 1'ers, MM is BY FAR the worst feature of XBL, it sounded good on paper, but its execution is lacking.

Same can work the other way, sometimes i get in a GREAT team, but the other team is FULL of people who just bought the game, THIS is finding a team of similar skill?, what garbage.

Another thing is the communities, while most people are quite online (the way i like it) every once in a while some idiot will come on and start annoying everybody, Always with racism, stupid jokes, and talking about what happend to jerry last night acting as if people care, i swear, the Gears community is even worst than halo 3's, they all want to be hardcorz, its hilarious how you ask one question and everyone jumps on the bandwagon and starts calling you a noob, "How do you stick nades on the wall?", "LOL NOOB, you dun know how to do thatz!", Hell Quake 3 had a better community than this, and they where deemed to have one of the worst most elitist community's in any game next to CS.

/Rant, Sometimes i wonder why i pay 50 for this peice of garbage. then i realize Gears 2 is awesome so i stay in.

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The reputation defaults to 5 stars after a certain amount of ratings IIRC. I read that somewhere. There may be a set percent that needs to be positive, but its almost always 5 stars, which I think makes the system weak, but I find matchmaking overall to be pretty satisfactory.
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#15 tOtalPWNaAe
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the word overrated is overrated
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the word overrated is overratedtOtalPWNaAe
thats my line...
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[QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"]the word overrated is overratedEyezonmii
thats my line...

your off my list........for now:twisted:muhahahahahah
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"]the word overrated is overratedtOtalPWNaAe
thats my line...

your off my list........for now:twisted:muhahahahahah

lol....good 2 know.
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#19 nethernova
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What ever the system is, it aint working because i get matched with noobs a lot.

dthach614
Well, then it's working perfectly fine. But on a serious note, I agree with you. Live is nothing I want to pay for and I regret that I spent money to try it for three months. Should have bought a cheap game instead.
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#20 tOtalPWNaAe
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] thats my line...

your off my list........for now:twisted:muhahahahahah

lol....good 2 know.

you hold the fatest record for being on my list you were on and off my list in 5 minutes this gives you life time protection
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#21 heretrix
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and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

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NXE is available for silver members. It's free.
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TC, wow there hasn't been a thread like this on SW for awhile. :roll: What features don't work or work "half ass"? You make the statement with nothing to support it. I've been matched up with a player on XBL that is on my avoid list. Not everyone has 5 stars, but you're right most people do. This is often because people will have everyone on their friend's list give them a positive review. You're right, the GamerZone thing seems like it has been somewhat abandoned. That isn't what matchmaking is, although some games support looking for the best connections. I like dedicated servers too, but it's not like all games lag. In regard to your desire to have XBL free, I say no thanks. I'm on XBL and PSN all the time, and IMO, the standardization across all online titles is worth the $2.92 per month or 9 cents per day that I pay for it. (I get my 13 month subscription cards off of Amazon.com for $38 ).
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#23 tOtalPWNaAe
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[QUOTE="dthach614"]

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

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your avatar is creepy but cool
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#24 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="dthach614"]

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

tOtalPWNaAe

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your avatar is creepy but cool

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#25 xsubtownerx
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I really don't get the Reputation thing :sangelkimne
Me neither..
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#26 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Live isnt overrated, PSN is just underrated. Both are great services. Live offers alot more community tools, while PSN has first party dedicated servers and free online play. It just depends on what u prefer.skrat_01
Problem is with PSN online is kept at an arms length from full intergration like Live is, nor is it not nearly as well implemented. Not too say that its poor, it isn't - same goes with the games; titles like Warhawk are a blast to play.

I hear what you are saying. Live is better implemented, no doubt about that, but for someone like me who only cares about playing Online, PSN is better for me :P Its free and has dedicated servers for 1st party games, and luckily, those are the best games :D I cant wait for close-to-lag-free Killzone2! But overall, the XBL package is a bit stronger than PSN
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Half of the so called features either dont work or work half ass.

Why do I still get matched up with players that I avoided on Xbox Live?

Why do everybody have have five stars or their reputation when half the players on Xbox live are racist? Why do when I give a player negative rep, his rep goes up to five star from 3 star?

The Gamerzone does matched you up with players with alike gamezone preference.

Matchmaking is the worst thing that has ever happen to online gaming. Matchmaking does not reduce lag by matching players according their "information" A lot of times it is laggy on live and a lot of time they give the player with the worst connection to be host. Matchmaking does not always similar skilled players together. What ever the system is, it aint working because i get matched with noobs a lot.

A lot of online game dont have the options of dedicated servers.

There's no custom games search in games like Halo 3, so you're force to play what ever the playlist choose for you. Boooooo

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

dthach614
You avoid them, but that doesnt make it impossible to be matched against them. Not everyone has 5 stars, and i think you'll find a lot of people just get their friends to prefer them to get their rep up. The system doesnt really work because people abuse it, not because Microsoft are imcompetent. I cant tell you this now, if matchmaking just matched random players up and picked a random player to be host, it would be so so so much worse. So it does work, but its not perfect. No dedicated servers is the developers choice, nothing to do with XBL. Again, that was Bungies choice.
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#28 pi3m4ster
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are you kidding matchmaking is so awesome. Plus it's a great compeition enhancer
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#29 Blackbond
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You'll want to get your facts straight next time you post. Posting false info as fact is under trolling in the ToU.duxup

Just putting this out there as this quote from duxup who is a mod came up earlier.

You can be modded for posting false info as a fact and seeing as how a good chunk of your comments are false like half of the features don't work you should watch out. Just looking out.

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#30 Mr_Ditters
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XBL should have dedicated servers. Seriously. Isnt that what you are paying for?
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[QUOTE="boxofwit"]It's still etter than PSN.rogelio22
if it was better i would still be paying for it!!!

PSN is good but Live is still better. Yes, I own both.
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XBL should have dedicated servers. Seriously. Isnt that what you are paying for?Mr_Ditters

No. But XBL does have games that support dedicated servers. Left 4 Dead uses them.And there are a few others. I'll admit there aren't many, but to be honest, PSN doesn't have a lot of games that use them either. What makes PSN better in this regard is that they do use them for most of Sony's first party games.

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#33 dthach614
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Half of the so called features either dont work or work half ass.

Why do I still get matched up with players that I avoided on Xbox Live?

Why do everybody have have five stars or their reputation when half the players on Xbox live are racist? Why do when I give a player negative rep, his rep goes up to five star from 3 star?

The Gamerzone does matched you up with players with alike gamezone preference.

Matchmaking is the worst thing that has ever happen to online gaming. Matchmaking does not reduce lag by matching players according their "information" A lot of times it is laggy on live and a lot of time they give the player with the worst connection to be host. Matchmaking does not always similar skilled players together. What ever the system is, it aint working because i get matched with noobs a lot.

A lot of online game dont have the options of dedicated servers.

There's no custom games search in games like Halo 3, so you're force to play what ever the playlist choose for you. Boooooo

and thats why xbox live should be free. Why are we paying for it any way? NXE? If had the choice to have all money back or NXE, I will choose the money

-DrRobotnik-

You avoid them, but that doesnt make it impossible to be matched against them. Not everyone has 5 stars, and i think you'll find a lot of people just get their friends to prefer them to get their rep up. The system doesnt really work because people abuse it, not because Microsoft are imcompetent. I cant tell you this now, if matchmaking just matched random players up and picked a random player to be host, it would be so so so much worse. So it does work, but its not perfect. No dedicated servers is the developers choice, nothing to do with XBL. Again, that was Bungies choice.

so a population of 10,000 players and i still get match up witht the players i avoided last game.. what a great system M$ have put in

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#34 SpruceCaboose
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so a population of 10,000 players and i still get match up witht the players i avoided last game.. what a great system M$ have put in

dthach614
Millions of paying users must think so. Vote with your wallet. You don't like it, don't pay for it. Problem solved.
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#35 Afro_Samurai1
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alot of the 360 owners on sw make live look like something it isn't but ohh wll
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#36 Lcamm
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It's still etter than PSN.boxofwit
by far
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#37 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="boxofwit"]It's still etter than PSN.Lcamm
by far

Yeah, like "I bet you will never get to this level" far.

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#38 jg4xchamp
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I would say it is much better than PSN still....but yes there are some things i would like ironed out That said I don't get all this lag you people get.....Halo 3 runs fantastic everytime...same with Left 4 Dead....COD 4...etc
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#39 jeffmonster
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It' sure isn't worth the $50.metalgear-solid

It's only $29.97 on amazon right now. Is it worth that much??? I say yes!

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I would say it is much better than PSN still....but yes there are some things i would like ironed out That said I don't get all this lag you people get.....Halo 3 runs fantastic everytime...same with Left 4 Dead....COD 4...etcjg4xchamp

I guess its your connection. Sometimes my connection is funny...but It works majority of the time, so thats fine with me. The reasons PSN does not compair to XBL is because XBL provides a great deal more than PSN as a service. Yeah...for those who just want a service to "play games" and thats it...okay. For the gamers who are more interested in other stuff that XBL brings you cant get it with PSN period. Not even close.

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#41 Lcamm
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]It' sure isn't worth the $50.jeffmonster

It's only $29.97 on amazon right now. Is it worth that much??? I say yes!

30 bucks thats like .8 cent a day less then a penny

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I would say it is much better than PSN still....but yes there are some things i would like ironed out That said I don't get all this lag you people get.....Halo 3 runs fantastic everytime...same with Left 4 Dead....COD 4...etcIIJuggaNottII

I guess its your connection. Sometimes my connection is funny...but It works majority of the time, so thats fine with me. The reasons PSN does not compair to XBL is because XBL provides a great deal more than PSN as a service. Yeah...for those who just want a service to "play games" and thats it...okay. For the gamers who are more interested in other stuff that XBL brings you cant get it with PSN period. Not even close.

like what

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#43 yowtfyowtfyo
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pc gaming is the best

it's sad how console gaming is ruining the best gaming platform.

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#44 fluxorator
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Well I agree the matchmaking is overrated - though I like its concept, i'm not a fan of how it works in practice. Never the less Live is better than PSN, thats why it gets so much praise - and that it is TOTALLY intergrated into the 360; which makes it deserving of praise in this regard. However the online experience... well its hardly better than, i'd say quite worse, that on a platform like the PC. Hence why I cancelled my Gold Sub.

What makes it better than PSN? The only reason I see is it's integration. Saying it has a better marketplace and all that is just useless, especially after lemmings throw the 'it's made for games' argument all the time.
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#45 naruto7777
Member since 2007 • 8059 Posts
[QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"]the word overrated is overratedEyezonmii
thats my line...

PSN is overrated
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#46 Emaldon69
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For the stat/friend tracking, its worth the cost.
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#47 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26712 Posts

My only problem with XBL is that, they lack some of the most BASIC features in online gaming, MM is a joke, i would rather choose my OWN game, rather than be stuck with 4 other noobs in Gears 2

I swear, sometimes the game puts me in the worst team (im Rank 3 in gears2) and it seems the game just stick me with a bunch of Rank 1'ers, MM is BY FAR the worst feature of XBL, it sounded good on paper, but its execution is lacking.

Same can work the other way, sometimes i get in a GREAT team, but the other team is FULL of people who just bought the game, THIS is finding a team of similar skill?, what garbage.

Another thing is the communities, while most people are quite online (the way i like it) every once in a while some idiot will come on and start annoying everybody, Always with racism, stupid jokes, and talking about what happend to jerry last night acting as if people care, i swear, the Gears community is even worst than halo 3's, they all want to be hardcorz, its hilarious how you ask one question and everyone jumps on the bandwagon and starts calling you a noob, "How do you stick nades on the wall?", "LOL NOOB, you dun know how to do thatz!", Hell Quake 3 had a better community than this, and they where deemed to have one of the worst most elitist community's in any game next to CS.

/Rant, Sometimes i wonder why i pay 50 for this peice of garbage. then i realize Gears 2 is awesome so i stay in.

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Only problem is these people are everywhere. I once joined an L4D match and we had just gotten in and the other team had told us to rage quit. And that was the first time I heard the term, and I'm like, "what's rage quit?" And they're all like, "nub! blah blah blah." So I told them I had a life and a job and they started to call me names lol. Gotta love insecure people. My friend and I quit the server, because it's no fun playing with jerks. Another time we got stuck with 2 guys who were just yelling at us because we weren't, "getting the zombies off fast enough." These guys were horrible, they were much slower than we were, but still yelling at us to pay attention. Eventually I yelled at them over the mic, telling them to, "stfu, it's only a game." And he shutup after that. lol
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#48 PSfanboy101
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i remember when i played team fortress 2 on PS3 and no one and i mean NO ONE was using mics it was so hard to play cause we couldnt talk to each other about what stratagies to use ect, then i sold the orange box and got it on 360 and it was so easy to play! i mean EVERYONE was using a mic and talking about statigies etc and it was so much fun! oh and on PSN you cant even play a game (a diffrent game then the other person) and talk to them! i mean i was playing PSN and i wanted to play Resistance 2 and my mate wanted to play guitar hero world tour and we coudlnt even talk but on the xbox no matter ur doing u can talk to ur friends
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#49 dthach614
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[QUOTE="dthach614"]

so a population of 10,000 players and i still get match up witht the players i avoided last game.. what a great system M$ have put in

SpruceCaboose

Millions of paying users must think so. Vote with your wallet. You don't like it, don't pay for it. Problem solved.

you know how many shamwows has been sold? do you how many bowflex home gym been sold???

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#50 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts
From all the things you listed, the lack of dedicated servers is the only thing that bothers me.