Xbox Live or Playstation Network

as both services have been available for quite a long time now i wondered what SW thought were on both. actually i don't really care and i just wanted to see if anyone reads this and if any PSN vs XBL thread can hit 100+ posts. both offer a great service but MS decided to charge was this a good decision.

What are we comparing, exclusive features, exclusive games, value?

What are we comparing, exclusive features, exclusive games, value?

waltefmoney

steam, xbl and psn are inferior products marketed towards console peasants.

Xbox live offered enough value for me that I paid for it for the past 8 years and have my account paid up till 2/2/2013.

Xbox live offered enough value for me that I paid for it for the past 8 years and have my account paid up till 2/2/2013.

WilliamRLBaker

XBL is soo worth it it works much better than PSN.

i hate chatting and i rarely play online so Psn is a perfect match for me, i can downaload demos,themes, psn games when i want, also i can play online but rarely as i don like it. psn works for me perfect

I have had an Xbox since launch, and then the 360. I just got aPS3 for Christmas, and after 2 weeks with it, I don't see myself renewing my live sub when it is done next month. I don't see why you would pay for something that is free on another console. Been playing Blackops, and Medal of Honor online, with no problems at all.

To me it is amazing that MS has been able to get the fee for live, when it is free on PSN.(I was a beta tester for live, so I have had it since it started, which means I have paid $400 to M$ for the ability to play online.) Just goes to show you how brainwashed people can become by good marketing.

steam, xbl and psn are inferior products marketed towards console peasants.

Firebird-5

On topic, XBL is better but not $60 better. Probably like $5 better:P

as both services have been available for quite a long time now i wondered what SW thought were on both. actually i don't really care and i just wanted to see if anyone reads this and if any PSN vs XBL thread can hit 100+ posts. both offer a great service but MS decided to charge was this a good decision.

Vinegar_Strokes

I have had an Xbox since launch, and then the 360. I just got aPS3 for Christmas, and after 2 weeks with it, I don't see myself renewing my live sub when it is done next month. I don't see why you would pay for something that is free on another console. Been playing Blackops, and Medal of Honor online, with no problems at all.

To me it is amazing that MS has been able to get the fee for live, when it is free on PSN.(I was a beta tester for live, so I have had it since it started, which means I have paid $400 to M$ for the ability to play online.) Just goes to show you how brainwashed people can become by good marketing.

RapidTurtle

Xbox live offered enough value for me that I paid for it for the past 8 years and have my account paid up till 2/2/2013.

WilliamRLBaker

No the value part is something you lemmings make yourself believe to feel better about the fact you are forced to pay $60 to play your games online while it's free everywhere else. There is no value in gold it's just MS forcing you to pay if you want to play your games online or use the features which are also free everywhere else.

[QUOTE="RapidTurtle"]

I have had an Xbox since launch, and then the 360. I just got aPS3 for Christmas, and after 2 weeks with it, I don't see myself renewing my live sub when it is done next month. I don't see why you would pay for something that is free on another console. Been playing Blackops, and Medal of Honor online, with no problems at all.

To me it is amazing that MS has been able to get the fee for live, when it is free on PSN.(I was a beta tester for live, so I have had it since it started, which means I have paid $400 to M$ for the ability to play online.) Just goes to show you how brainwashed people can become by good marketing.

blackace

So you pay $60 dollars to have a demo of a game? Yeah real value right there.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Xbox live offered enough value for me that I paid for it for the past 8 years and have my account paid up till 2/2/2013.

USS_Data

No the value part is something you lemmings make yourself believe to feel better about the fact you are forced to pay $60 to play your games online while it's free everywhere else. There is no value in gold it's just MS forcing you to pay if you want to play your games online or use the features which are also free everywhere else.

as both services have been available for quite a long time now i wondered what SW thought were on both. actually i don't really care and i just wanted to see if anyone reads this and if any PSN vs XBL thread can hit 100+ posts. both offer a great service but MS decided to charge was this a good decision.

Vinegar_Strokes

Anyway. XBL (Gold) mostly just sells you access to a lot of things you already pay for or are free to begin with, Facebook, Last.fm, ESPN3.com, Twitter, streaming Netflix movies, online portion of games; all of these things are either free to anyone with internet (facebook, twitter, last.fm, etc) or you already pay for (netflix has its own subscription cost, espn3.com is part of your ISP's subscription, online portion of game is included when you buy the game). PSN offers pretty much all the same features, along with some that Live doesn't have, without feeling the need to charge you extra for them.

[QUOTE="USS_Data"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Xbox live offered enough value for me that I paid for it for the past 8 years and have my account paid up till 2/2/2013.

DroidPhysX

No the value part is something you lemmings make yourself believe to feel better about the fact you are forced to pay $60 to play your games online while it's free everywhere else. There is no value in gold it's just MS forcing you to pay if you want to play your games online or use the features which are also free everywhere else.

If that's the best rebutal you have then i am right about you people making yourself believe in value which isn't there.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="USS_Data"]

No the value part is something you lemmings make yourself believe to feel better about the fact you are forced to pay $60 to play your games online while it's free everywhere else. There is no value in gold it's just MS forcing you to pay if you want to play your games online or use the features which are also free everywhere else.

USS_Data

If that's the best rebutal you have then i am right about you people making yourself believe in value which isn't there.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="USS_Data"]

No the value part is something you lemmings make yourself believe to feel better about the fact you are forced to pay $60 to play your games online while it's free everywhere else. There is no value in gold it's just MS forcing you to pay if you want to play your games online or use the features which are also free everywhere else.

USS_Data

If that's the best rebutal you have then i am right about you people making yourself believe in value which isn't there.

Xbox live offered enough value for me that I paid for it for the past 8 years and have my account paid up till 2/2/2013.

WilliamRLBaker

Ditto(except for being paid up until 2013). I put a premium on the party system, cross game invites, their community managers and policy enforcment staff. Mileage will vary for people, but those are the things I like about XBL.

PSN. Been using it for 3 years for the content and multiplayer. Been able to use my brother in laws Xbox Live account also. There is no difference. Both have features and games. Only difference is cross game chat, and having to pay $60 to access all of your game.

psn is free > xbl cost money

psn is free > xbl cost money

ps3wizard45

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

psn is free > xbl cost money

dog_dirt

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

psn is free > xbl cost money

TheMoreYouOwn

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

[QUOTE="RapidTurtle"]

I have had an Xbox since launch, and then the 360. I just got aPS3 for Christmas, and after 2 weeks with it, I don't see myself renewing my live sub when it is done next month. I don't see why you would pay for something that is free on another console. Been playing Blackops, and Medal of Honor online, with no problems at all.

To me it is amazing that MS has been able to get the fee for live, when it is free on PSN.(I was a beta tester for live, so I have had it since it started, which means I have paid $400 to M$ for the ability to play online.) Just goes to show you how brainwashed people can become by good marketing.

blackace

Yes, everyone has to pay their ISP. It has become almost as necessary as paying for the electric bill in this day and age. So if I am paying my ISP, then why are we paying for Live? What exactly are we paying for? All of the content can be accessed for free on the other consoles, and from a computer, so why the $60 fee?

If you can lead me to a free ISP, I would sign up in a heartbeat, as I am pretty sure most of us would.

I personally prefer XBL if we are comparing them on an equal plane, but factoring in the price for xbl gold I'd say pSN is superior

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]this is true. its a fact that the cheaper something is the better it is. and why a Honda Civic>>>>>Ferrari 458iSpideR_CentS

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

I dont get it though, what is the difference that YOU pay for, like, are you payng 30-60 dollars a year just for Cross game chat, cause that is all i see that is better about Xbox Live, and ESPN. But its opinions so dont matta

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

psn is free > xbl cost money

dog_dirt

as both services have been available for quite a long time now i wondered what SW thought were on both. actually i don't really care and i just wanted to see if anyone reads this and if any PSN vs XBL thread can hit 100+ posts. both offer a great service but MS decided to charge was this a good decision.

Vinegar_Strokes

For all intents and purposes,

XBOX LIVE has better chat features.

PSN, however is free to play games online.

Other than that, the fundamental difference between the 2 services is the same

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"][QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

psn is free > xbl cost money

TheMoreYouOwn

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]this is true. its a fact that the cheaper something is the better it is. and why a Honda Civic>>>>>Ferrari 458iVinegar_Strokes

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

Since when does someone "buy" a tax, unless you just miswrote. I mean, that's like walking into the IRS department and saying "Hey guys! I'd like you to slap me with another yearly federal income tax if you don't mind."

IRS: "Daaahhh...Sure! Happy to oblige." ;)

Live is better, but PSN in free. Sooo, it depends on your preference, as both are pretty significant determining factors.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

TheMoreYouOwn

Since when does someone "buy" a tax, unless you just miswrote. I mean, that's like walking into the IRS department and saying "Hey guys! I'd like you to slap me with another yearly federal income tax if you don't mind."

IRS: "Daaahhh...Sure! Happy to oblige." ;)

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]no. but i have to buy road tax, insurance and fuel Vinegar_Strokes

Since when does someone "buy" a tax, unless you just miswrote. I mean, that's like walking into the IRS department and saying "Hey guys! I'd like you to slap me with another yearly federal income tax if you don't mind."

IRS: "Daaahhh...Sure! Happy to oblige." ;)

Ok...well you said "buy" a tax initially instead of "pay," which is what confused me.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Since when does someone "buy" a tax, unless you just miswrote. I mean, that's like walking into the IRS department and saying "Hey guys! I'd like you to slap me with another yearly federal income tax if you don't mind."

IRS: "Daaahhh...Sure! Happy to oblige." ;)

TheMoreYouOwn

Ok...well you said "buy" a tax initially instead of "pay," which is what confused me.

here's everything you need to know about the xbl debate in sw:

if you bought a $400 gfx card, a $250 gt5 wheel, replaced your sixaxis controllers for $55 a pop with ds3's, paid $60 for mass effect 2 when the 360 version is $15, or ever spent so much as one penny more to get a slightly better experence it is totally justified.

if you spent money on a better online experence with xbl you are a dirty stupid wasteful little **** who is happy to fund microsofts greed and you deserve to die because you are personally responcable for bringing gaming down by being a profanity spewing 13 year old screaming racist punk.

;)

here's everything you need to know about the xbl debate in sw:

if you bought a $400 gfx card, a $250 gt5 wheel, replaced your sixaxis controllers for $55 a pop with ds3's, paid $60 for mass effect 2 when the 360 version is $15, or ever spent so much as one penny more to get a slightly better experence it is totally justified.

if you spent money on a better online experence with xbl you are a dirty stupid wasteful little **** who is happy to fund microsofts greed and you deserve to die because you are personally responcable for bringing gaming down by being a profanity spewing 13 year old screaming racist punk.

;)

Riverwolf007

at least we know how to spell.

XBL is more streamlined and more integrated into the games and the console. It has more features, more online game, DLC and video content, not to mention faster download speeds and a higher population of gamers. Whether you think that is worth the $3 a month is up to you. I think it is.

PSN. Been using it for 3 years for the content and multiplayer. Been able to use my brother in laws Xbox Live account also. There is no difference. Both have features and games. Only difference is cross game chat, and having to pay $60 to access all of your game.

TheMoreYouOwn

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

When you buy that Honda Civic, do you have to also purchase a yearly service fee to use the ac?

Snakemaster9

I dont get it though, what is the difference that YOU pay for, like, are you payng 30-60 dollars a year just for Cross game chat, cause that is all i see that is better about Xbox Live, and ESPN. But its opinions so dont matta

If you want the honest truth I doubt your going to find it because it's painfully obvious that most people here only have one system and are just lying.

I got a PS3 earlier this year and I have been paying for Live for about 3 years, I still have about 4 months lfet on my gold account ane I will NOT be renewing it. Especially since I play on Steam now aswell.

Both are the SAME, only difference is that Live has cross/party chat and PSN has game sharing and a web browser. MS has no reason to charge you, xbox live is all p2p and costs MS nothing to maintain. Most PSN games are p2p aswell BUT there 1st party games all have dedicated servers.

The only real reason why people pay for Xbox Live is because they only have 1 console and thus have no other choice. Or their friends are on Live, other than that no person would pay for it.

The only thing you need to play online is just high-speed internet, if you already pay for your ISP than there is NO reson to charge for online play, especially when your just playing off someone else's internet (p2p).

Also bear in mind that there are ADS on the Xbox Live dashboard ranging from Car Ads to Deodarant! Imagine how much MS makes from those alone, then ask why would they need to charge? The answer is they DON'T

There is also something called Steam that is ran by Valve and it has MORE features than Xbox Live and PSN combined. But guess what? Steam is FREE!

Both Sony and Valve are smaller companies compared to MS but they still manage to have an equal (or better in Steams case) online service that's FREE.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

PSN. Been using it for 3 years for the content and multiplayer. Been able to use my brother in laws Xbox Live account also. There is no difference. Both have features and games. Only difference is cross game chat, and having to pay $60 to access all of your game.

SpideR_CentS

Almost everything you mentioned were trivial features.

The only ones that weren't are the chat/messages, which I admit are better than the PS3, but the PS3 does support chat features...it's just better on 360.

Btw...PS3 also has video chat, and has had it for quite some time.

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

PSN. Been using it for 3 years for the content and multiplayer. Been able to use my brother in laws Xbox Live account also. There is no difference. Both have features and games. Only difference is cross game chat, and having to pay $60 to access all of your game.

Unnatural101

Almost everything you mentioned were trivial features.

The only ones that weren't are the chat/messages, which I admit are better than the PS3, but the PS3 does support chat features...it's just better on 360.

Btw...PS3 also has video chat, and has had it for quite some time.

[QUOTE="Unnatural101"]

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"] And universal mute, universal prefer, universal avoid, universal friends list, achievements for all games integrated (no loading), Tru Skill ranking and match making, Voice messages, private chat, video chat...

SpideR_CentS

Almost everything you mentioned were trivial features.

The only ones that weren't are the chat/messages, which I admit are better than the PS3, but the PS3 does support chat features...it's just better on 360.

Btw...PS3 also has video chat, and has had it for quite some time.

What do you mean by universal friends list?

And what do you mean by universal mute?