Xbox One & PS4 won't hit cap for at least six years says Bethesda VP

So another dev says that the consoles will atleast go and improve for the next 6 years...

"We're now going on eight years since the Xbox 360 launched and many are wondering when the definitive moment was that saw the current-gen consoles "capped" at their maximum capabilities. Perhaps more important is how long it will be before the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One reach their limit."

link: http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-ps4-won-t-hit-cap-for-at-least-six-years-says-bethesda-vp

Depends on what they mean. It would be easy to make a game today that no computer in the world could render (start with a bouncing ball. Then double the amount of balls until the computer crashes). If they mean that devs will be able to make noticably better looking games, by smarter utilising the resources, then that could go on for a long time (with the size of the improvement getting smaller and smaller). Six year sound reasonable in this latter sense.

Year 2: Game is released that uses the true power of the Playstation 4. Year 3: Game is released that truly uses the true power of the Playstation 4. They have tapped everything Year 4: Game is released that truly truly uses the true power of the Playstation 4. This time, they have tapped everything. Year 5: Game is released that truly truly truly uses the true power of the Playstation 4. They were joking before, this one really taps everything. Year 6: Supposedly the past games releases were lying, this upcoming game will really use the true power of the PS4. Don't worry, everything has been tapped.ShadowDeathX

So another dev says that the consoles will atleast go and improve for the next 6 years...

 

"We're now going on eight years since the Xbox 360 launched and many are wondering when the definitive moment was that saw the current-gen consoles "capped" at their maximum capabilities. Perhaps more important is how long it will be before the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One reach their limit."

link: http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-one-ps4-won-t-hit-cap-for-at-least-six-years-says-bethesda-vp

ramonnl

lol Bethesda...

What they mean is that normal developers will reach max potential in 3-4 years, Bethesda will take 6-7 years to get there.

After 7 years they STILL dont know how to program for the PS3, so this comment from them is not surprising at all.

Huh? Because if you listen to the Cows, the XBOX ONE is already maxed out. Yup, ole' Cooter and Jed over their in Sony land say "the One" hit its ceiling before it even launched!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Just like every console in any past gen. It's funny how some people find this surprising lol

lol Bethesda...

What they mean is that normal developers will reach max potential in 3-4 years, Bethesda will take 6-7 years to get there.

After 7 years they STILL dont know how to program for the PS3, so this comment from them is not surprising at all.

ManatuBeard

lol Bethesda...

Do you mean the developers of some of the most popular and criticaly acclaimed games on the market?

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

lol Bethesda...

What they mean is that normal developers will reach max potential in 3-4 years, Bethesda will take 6-7 years to get there.

After 7 years they STILL dont know how to program for the PS3, so this comment from them is not surprising at all.

PAL360

lol Bethesda...

Do you mean the developers of some of the most popular and criticaly acclaimed games on the market?

does that change the fact that those games are full of bugs?

Since when games being popular and criticaly acclaimed means that the games are bug free and run smoothly?

Skyrim PS3 wants to have a word with you...

does that change the fact that those games are full of bugs?

Since when games being popular and criticaly acclaimed means that the games are bug free and run smoothly?

Skyrim PS3 wants to have a word with you...

ManatuBeard

Skyrim does have bugs. It's the price to pay, when you make a game this ambitious and massive. Skyrim on PS3 is a terrible port, mostly due to PS3's terrible hardware design.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Year 2: Game is released that uses the true power of the Playstation 4. Year 3: Game is released that truly uses the true power of the Playstation 4. They have tapped everything Year 4: Game is released that truly truly uses the true power of the Playstation 4. This time, they have tapped everything. Year 5: Game is released that truly truly truly uses the true power of the Playstation 4. They were joking before, this one really taps everything. Year 6: Supposedly the past games releases were lying, this upcoming game will really use the true power of the PS4. Don't worry, everything has been tapped.slipknot0129

Noobs. x51 has unlimited potential.

PC won't hit a cap ever.egger7577

but it'll bust a cap in some consoles. 

The Xbox One and PS4 only have X amount of total performance. How the devs choose to use it is up to them. As time passes devs come up with more efficient algorithms to better utilize that power. However they still have a limit of how much power they have.

We saw that last gen. We saw devs utilizing the hardware in more efficent ways and optimizing their code so they wouldn't waste as much performance and make better use of their limited performance. That's why we saw better graphics at the end of the generation. However those devs cannot turn the consoles into something they aren't. The consoles will continue to age as PC hardware continues to progress. That's just how it is.

Here's an example. A game like Gears of War was pushing the Xbox 360 to its max. However it wasn't nearly as efficient. The Xbox 360 was probably running at 100% during the more graphically intense sequences. As Epic continued to refine their engine and spend mony into R&D to come up with more efficent rendering solutions they were able to take that same amount of hardware and go a bit further with it. The whole "maxing out a console" saying is complete bull. Most 3D games max out the console. They just may not do it in a very efficent manner.

Also once you have more efficent algorithms in place to fully utilize the hardware, it's up to the dev to choose how to distribute that power. Do you go with a more cartoony/soft approach with lower resolution environments while putting all of that extra power into rendering more diverse obects? Do you go with 1 super high detailed character or 10 moderatly detailed characters? It becomes a choice.

Look at Bioshock Infinite. That game looked great and ran well while having decent sized envrionments and a lot going on all because they decided to go with a more cartoony and simple look instead of more realistic graphics. It's all a choice.

lol Bethesda...

What they mean is that normal developers will reach max potential in 3-4 years, Bethesda will take 6-7 years to get there.

After 7 years they STILL dont know how to program for the PS3, so this comment from them is not surprising at all.

ManatuBeard

Many developers actually gave up trying to developer for the PS3. Others never even made the attempt. so I'm not surprised. It's one of the reasons 3rd party games played like crap on the PS3 initially.

PC won't hit a cap ever.egger7577

It's not a stagnant system, so of course it won't. That's why it doesn't have any generations as well. lol!!

Pc's are constantly evolving every weak. You think you have the Highest HIGH-END Gaming PC ever. Nope, you don't. There's always some better then what you have when it comes to PC's.

Bethesda made this claim? So we can expect more shit like Skyrim this gen from them, along with the same 3 voice actors, the same rigid animations, piss poor gameplay, horrible graphics and baron worlds.clyde46

I sense a shit ton of bitterness. Did Bethesda wrong you at some time in your life?

It's not a stagnant system, so of course it won't. That's why it doesn't have any generations as well. lol!!

Pc's are constantly evolving every weak. You think you have the Highest HIGH-END Gaming PC ever. Nope, you don't. There's always some better then what you have when it comes to PC's.

blackace

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Bethesda made this claim? So we can expect more shit like Skyrim this gen from them, along with the same 3 voice actors, the same rigid animations, piss poor gameplay, horrible graphics and baron worlds.Wasdie

I sense a shit ton of bitterness. Did Bethesda wrong you at some time in your life?

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Bethesda made this claim? So we can expect more shit like Skyrim this gen from them, along with the same 3 voice actors, the same rigid animations, piss poor gameplay, horrible graphics and baron worlds.Wasdie

I sense a shit ton of bitterness. Did Bethesda wrong you at some time in your life?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Bethesda made this claim? So we can expect more shit like Skyrim this gen from them, along with the same 3 voice actors, the same rigid animations, piss poor gameplay, horrible graphics and baron worlds.blue_hazy_basic

I sense a shit ton of bitterness. Did Bethesda wrong you at some time in your life?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Bethesda made this claim? So we can expect more shit like Skyrim this gen from them, along with the same 3 voice actors, the same rigid animations, piss poor gameplay, horrible graphics and baron worlds.clyde46

I sense a shit ton of bitterness. Did Bethesda wrong you at some time in your life?

I played through vanilla Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Skryim without many issues. There were more bugs than your average game of course (especially New Vegas), but they were far from unplayable and were really fun.

They get award after award becuase the games are anything but bland. There is a ton of variety and a lot of things to do as well as often great writing and characters. 

It may be your opinion that they are bland but that's certainly not the popular opinion.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I sense a shit ton of bitterness. Did Bethesda wrong you at some time in your life?

Wasdie

I played through vanilla Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Skryim without many issues. There were more bugs than your average game of course (especially New Vegas), but they were far from unplayable and were really fun.

They get award after award becuase the games are anything but bland. There is a ton of variety and a lot of things to do as well as often great writing and characters. 

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

does that change the fact that those games are full of bugs?

Since when games being popular and criticaly acclaimed means that the games are bug free and run smoothly?

Skyrim PS3 wants to have a word with you...

PAL360

Skyrim does have bugs. It's the price to pay, when you make a game this ambitious and massive. Skyrim on PS3 is a terrible port, mostly due to PS3's terrible hardware design.

Lame excuses...

A look at Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, The Last of Us, God of War 3, God of War Ascension and even Kingdoms of Amalur (3rd party, big open world, run perfectly without bugs) say that Bethesda is lazy as f*ck!

After more than 1 year and loads of patches, and the game still runs like shit.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

does that change the fact that those games are full of bugs?

Since when games being popular and criticaly acclaimed means that the games are bug free and run smoothly?

Skyrim PS3 wants to have a word with you...

ManatuBeard

Skyrim does have bugs. It's the price to pay, when you make a game this ambitious and massive. Skyrim on PS3 is a terrible port, mostly due to PS3's terrible hardware design.

Lame excuses...

A look at Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, The Last of Us, God of War 3, God of War Ascension and even Kingdoms of Amalur (3rd party, big open world, run perfectly without bugs) say that Bethesda is lazy as f*ck!

After more than 1 year and loads of patches, and the game still runs like shit.

Right...lol

Let me be clear here....i do love linear games, like the ones you posted (especially Uncharted 2 and God of War 3) and many others, but they are 6 hour scripted experiences. On the other hand, i did put close to 400 hours on Skyrim (no DLC) and still have missions to start and places to visit. Someone who can't find the difference between a complex game like Skyrim and a linear game like GoW, can't be taken seriously.

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Skyrim does have bugs. It's the price to pay, when you make a game this ambitious and massive. Skyrim on PS3 is a terrible port, mostly due to PS3's terrible hardware design.

PAL360

Lame excuses...

A look at Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, The Last of Us, God of War 3, God of War Ascension and even Kingdoms of Amalur (3rd party, big open world, run perfectly without bugs) say that Bethesda is lazy as f*ck!

After more than 1 year and loads of patches, and the game still runs like shit.

Right...lol

Let me be clear here....i do love linear games, like the ones you posted (especially Uncharted 2 and God of War 3) and many others, but they are 6 hour scripted experiences. On the other hand, i did put close to 400 hours on Skyrim (no DLC) and still have missions to start and places to visit. Someone who can't find the difference between a complex game like Skyrim and a linear game like GoW, can't be taken seriously.

Amalur is neither linear or short....

Did you bother to read what i wrote??

I spent 100h in Amalur and didnt do everything, its not as big as Skyrim, but its still a big game, and for the 1st game of 38 Studios it ran 100x better than Skyrim.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Lame excuses...

A look at Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, The Last of Us, God of War 3, God of War Ascension and even Kingdoms of Amalur (3rd party, big open world, run perfectly without bugs) say that Bethesda is lazy as f*ck!

After more than 1 year and loads of patches, and the game still runs like shit.

ManatuBeard

Right...lol

Let me be clear here....i do love linear games, like the ones you posted (especially Uncharted 2 and God of War 3) and many others, but they are 6 hour scripted experiences. On the other hand, i did put close to 400 hours on Skyrim (no DLC) and still have missions to start and places to visit. Someone who can't find the difference between a complex game like Skyrim and a linear game like GoW, can't be taken seriously.

Amalur is neither linear or short....

Did you bother to read what i wrote??

I spent 100h in Amalur and didnt do everything, its not as big as Skyrim, but its still a big game, and for the 1st game of 38 Studios it ran 100x better than Skyrim.

I didn't play it yet, but the other ones are very bad examples. I'm not blindly defending Bethesda, TES games do have lots of bugs, but they are also very complex and unpredictable. You can't bash a dev for being ambitious.