Xbox One: Hard Drive Full at 362GBs

  • 67 results
  • 1
  • 2

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for xboxdone74
XboxDone74

2116

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#1 XboxDone74
Member since 2013 • 2116 Posts

Whoa...that's a lot of lost space.

Avatar image for MickeyTheNinja
MickeyTheNinja

3824

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 MickeyTheNinja
Member since 2007 • 3824 Posts

I guess you forgot how when the 360 was released, the 20gb HDD that it came with, was really 14.

Avatar image for NoirLamia777
NoirLamia777

3180

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#3 NoirLamia777
Member since 2012 • 3180 Posts

@MickeyTheNinja: 138 gb is a lot more than 6.

Avatar image for -Unreal-
-Unreal-

24650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 1

#4 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

The OS will take up space for a start. You also don't get exactly as much as is advertised because it's labled in base 10 format. For example 1000MB = 1GB when it's actually 1024MB.

Avatar image for shellcase86
shellcase86

6886

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6  Edited By shellcase86
Member since 2012 • 6886 Posts

Wow, that's quite abit less than Sony. They both took too much as it is.

Avatar image for Murderstyle75
Murderstyle75

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7  Edited By Murderstyle75
Member since 2011 • 4412 Posts

That's crazy. That's way over 25%. So glad I no longer support this brand.

Avatar image for Netret0120
Netret0120

3594

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#8 Netret0120
Member since 2013 • 3594 Posts

Standard in most electronics.

Avatar image for lamprey263
lamprey263

45433

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#9  Edited By lamprey263
Member since 2006 • 45433 Posts

one problem I noticed on the Xbox 360 was that with the 120GB HDD I used the more I installed and deleted games off the HDD the less and less space I'd have, I'd have to pack up all my game save files and format the HDD to recover the 20-30GB of space that was missing

at least the memory was easy to manage though

Avatar image for Salt_The_Fries
Salt_The_Fries

12480

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#10 Salt_The_Fries
Member since 2008 • 12480 Posts

@MickeyTheNinja said:

I guess you forgot how when the 360 was released, the 20gb HDD that it came with, was really 14.

That 6 was reserved for backwards compatibility you numbskull (just kidding, I'm not mad :) )...What are these 140 gigs reserved for???

Avatar image for StormyJoe
StormyJoe

7806

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#11  Edited By StormyJoe
Member since 2011 • 7806 Posts

@xboxdone74:

You have unlimited cloud storage...

What, do you just scour the internet for potential bad info on the Xbox One? How sad is your life?

EDIT: There is also an update in the works that will let you add an external hard drive.

Avatar image for HavocV3
HavocV3

8068

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#12  Edited By HavocV3
Member since 2009 • 8068 Posts

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@MickeyTheNinja said:

I guess you forgot how when the 360 was released, the 20gb HDD that it came with, was really 14.

That 6 was reserved for backwards compatibility you numbskull (just kidding, I'm not mad :) )...What are these 140 gigs reserved for???

A very bloated OS and some apps that probably total no more than 500mb. The rest is an amount you'd never get due to formatting and the way they're advertised.

For reference: My Seagate 1 tb is actually 931 gb and my Samsung 250 gb Evo is actually 232 gb.

@NoirLamia777 said:

@MickeyTheNinja: 138 gb is a lot more than 6.

Would be wise to express that as a percent.

500 gb in 2005 would mean a lot more than 500gb in 2013. While 20 gb is something in 2005 and nothing in 2013.

Avatar image for bobbetybob
bobbetybob

19370

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#13 bobbetybob
Member since 2005 • 19370 Posts

A lot of it is probably reserved for holding the previous 5 (is it 5?) minutes of recordings.

Avatar image for waltefmoney
waltefmoney

18030

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#14 waltefmoney
Member since 2010 • 18030 Posts

PS4 has 409GB according to SonyGAF so that's hardly a huge difference. There are games bigger than 47GB.

Avatar image for DerekLoffin
DerekLoffin

9095

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 47

User Lists: 0

#15  Edited By DerekLoffin
Member since 2002 • 9095 Posts

@bobbetybob said:

A lot of it is probably reserved for holding the previous 5 (is it 5?) minutes of recordings.

That could well be, or just reserved for future OS updates. Still, both Sony and MS are eating a lot of space on these already rather small drives, MS just seems to be doing worse.

Avatar image for soulitane
soulitane

15091

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#16  Edited By soulitane
Member since 2010 • 15091 Posts

@StormyJoe said:

@xboxdone74:

You have unlimited cloud storage...

What, do you just scour the internet for potential bad info on the Xbox One? How sad is your life?

EDIT: There is also an update in the works that will let you add an external hard drive.

That cloud storage won't store the things that are actually taking up the HDD, ie games.

Avatar image for chikenfriedrice
chikenfriedrice

13561

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17  Edited By chikenfriedrice
Member since 2006 • 13561 Posts

I doubt I will ever use all that space and if I do I will delete old shit to make room for new.....so difficult.

Avatar image for HavocV3
HavocV3

8068

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 HavocV3
Member since 2009 • 8068 Posts

@waltefmoney said:

PS4 has 409GB according to SonyGAF so that's hardly a huge difference. There are games bigger than 47GB.

So it sucks no matter what when it comes to consoles.

Time to start including alternate HDDs in the PC vs. Console cost comparison threads. =)

Avatar image for bobbetybob
bobbetybob

19370

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#19 bobbetybob
Member since 2005 • 19370 Posts
@DerekLoffin said:

@bobbetybob said:

A lot of it is probably reserved for holding the previous 5 (is it 5?) minutes of recordings.

That could well be, or just reserved for future OS updates. Still, both Sony and MS are eating a lot of space on these already rather small drives, MS just seems to be doing worse.

Yeah it really sucks that you have to install everything on both consoles, I at least hope MS gets their external hard drive update out soon.

Avatar image for Murderstyle75
Murderstyle75

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 Murderstyle75
Member since 2011 • 4412 Posts

@chikenfriedrice:

Its a bit more difficult than you may like to think. Back in 2005, everybody thought 16GB was more than enough. Then we saw just how big games were getting. Now that M$ is on board with Blu-Ray, its only going to get worse. Those 362GB of Xbox One storage are going to feel like 16GB of 360 storage in no time at all. Especially with mandatory installs.

Avatar image for chikenfriedrice
chikenfriedrice

13561

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 chikenfriedrice
Member since 2006 • 13561 Posts

@Murderstyle75 said:

@chikenfriedrice:

Its a bit more difficult than you may like to think. Back in 2005, everybody thought 16GB was more than enough. Then we saw just how big games were getting. Now that M$ is on board with Blu-Ray, its only going to get worse. Those 362GB of Xbox One storage are going to feel like 16GB of 360 storage in no time at all. Especially with mandatory installs.

I deal with this on my PC....A lot of the time I will delete an older game that I will never play again before I install a new one.

Avatar image for Boddicker
Boddicker

4458

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#22  Edited By Boddicker
Member since 2012 • 4458 Posts

My 120GB ps3 slim is actually 111GB. To be honest idk why this is the norm in the electronics world. The PS4 should have been labeled 400GB instead of 500GB.

Avatar image for kingtito
kingtito

11775

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#23 kingtito
Member since 2003 • 11775 Posts

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Murderstyle75 said:

@chikenfriedrice:

Its a bit more difficult than you may like to think. Back in 2005, everybody thought 16GB was more than enough. Then we saw just how big games were getting. Now that M$ is on board with Blu-Ray, its only going to get worse. Those 362GB of Xbox One storage are going to feel like 16GB of 360 storage in no time at all. Especially with mandatory installs.

I deal with this on my PC....A lot of the time I will delete an older game that I will never play again before I install a new one.

That's exactly what I have to do. I have tons of game I purchased on steam that I haven't installed to save space.

Avatar image for -Unreal-
-Unreal-

24650

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 1

#24 -Unreal-
Member since 2004 • 24650 Posts

Oh hey look, another NeoGAF copy and pasted thread.

Avatar image for Murderstyle75
Murderstyle75

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#25  Edited By Murderstyle75
Member since 2011 • 4412 Posts

@chikenfriedrice:

And how many GB is your PC HDD? And be honest.

I have 250GB on my 360 and. 320GB on my PS3 and everything is maxed out with at least 30 games on each that I own and can't install.

Avatar image for TF626
TF626

593

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26 TF626
Member since 2010 • 593 Posts

You should be able to swap out the HDD. Extreme milkage.

Avatar image for SageJMP
SageJMP

4210

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#27 SageJMP
Member since 2004 • 4210 Posts
@Boddicker said:

My 120GB ps3 slim is actually 111GB. To be honest idk why this is the norm in the electronics world. The PS4 should have been labeled 400GB instead of 500GB.

It is because us humans represent everything in base 10 (where giga = 10^9), however computers only see in base 2 (where giga = 2^30).

So if you have a 500GB harddrive represented in base 10, it would only be 465GB in base 2.

Avatar image for heretrix
heretrix

37881

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#28 heretrix
Member since 2004 • 37881 Posts

Hard drive math automatically makes a 500 gig hard drive around 465 gigs. Add things like the OS, and other stuff will eat at that drive even more. It sounds pretty normal to me.

You can't judge how fast your drive will fill up by using an IGN or any video game journo's standard. They have access to practically everything anyway, you will not.

external drives will fix that anyway.

Avatar image for Netherscourge
Netherscourge

16364

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#29 Netherscourge
Member since 2003 • 16364 Posts

A "500GB" HDD is actually 465GB, for starters.

So, if the XB1 HDD maxes out around 362GB, that means there's a whopping 103GB of OS hogging space.

Avatar image for TheTruthIsREAL
TheTruthIsREAL

813

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#30 TheTruthIsREAL
Member since 2013 • 813 Posts

And this is why 500GB hard drive is bad when your system requires you to install every game. Well, the ps4 users can upgrade their hard drive and these Xbone users most wait for an update. Must suck for that guy who will have to sit and wait for an update to support external HDD or delete some games and spend forever reinstalling games if they choose to re-visit another disc title.

Avatar image for Netherscourge
Netherscourge

16364

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#31  Edited By Netherscourge
Member since 2003 • 16364 Posts

Can't they use Cloud POWA to add more GBs?

Avatar image for xhawk27
xhawk27

12194

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 xhawk27
Member since 2010 • 12194 Posts

@Netherscourge said:

A "500GB" HDD is actually 465GB, for starters.

So, if the XB1 HDD maxes out around 362GB, that means there's a whopping 103GB of OS hogging space.

The PS4 HDD is only 409.

Avatar image for NFJSupreme
NFJSupreme

6605

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 NFJSupreme
Member since 2005 • 6605 Posts

PS4 is also actually 408GB so I guess you could store one more game on it. Xbone does support external HDD. For the PS4 you have to swap out a bigger HDD and it doesn't support external HDD if I remember correctly. Either way 500GB is too small for modern games but we all knew that. Hell Sony/MS knew that but they had to rush out the consoles and have them be under budget.

Avatar image for clyde46
clyde46

49061

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#35 clyde46
Member since 2005 • 49061 Posts

@Boddicker said:

My 120GB ps3 slim is actually 111GB. To be honest idk why this is the norm in the electronics world. The PS4 should have been labeled 400GB instead of 500GB.

Thats the way formatting works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#Units

The total capacity of HDDs is given by manufacturers in megabytes (1 MB = 1,000,000 bytes), gigabytes (1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes) or terabytes (1 TB = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes).[41][43][44][45][46][47] This numbering convention, where prefixes like mega- and giga- denote powers of 1,000, is also used for data transmission rates and DVD capacities. However, the convention is different from that used by manufacturers of memory (RAM, ROM) and CDs, where prefixes like kilo- and mega- mean powers of 1,024.

The practice of using prefixes assigned to powers of 1,000 within the HDD and computer industries dates back to the early days of computing.[48] By the 1970s million, mega and M were consistently being used in the powers of 1,000 sense to describe HDD capacity.[49][50][51]

Computers do not internally represent HDD or memory capacity in powers of 1,024; reporting it in this manner is just a convention.[52]Microsoft Windows uses the powers of 1,024 convention when reporting HDD capacity, thus an HDD offered by its manufacturer as a 1 TB drive is reported by these OSes as a 931 GB HDD. Mac OS X 10.6 ("Snow Leopard"), uses powers of 1,000 when reporting HDD capacity.

In the case of "mega-", there is a nearly 5% difference between the powers of 1,000 definition and the powers of 1,024 definition. Furthermore, the difference is compounded by 2.4% with each incrementally larger prefix (gigabyte, terabyte, etc.). The discrepancy between the two conventions for measuring capacity was the subject of several class action suits against HDD manufacturers. The plaintiffs argued that the use of decimal measurements effectively misled consumers[53][54] while the defendants denied any wrongdoing or liability, asserting that their marketing and advertising complied in all respects with the law and that no class member sustained any damages or injuries.[55]

In December 1998, standards organizations addressed these dual definitions of the conventional prefixes by standardizing on unique binary prefixes and prefix symbols to denote multiples of 1,024, such as "mebibyte (MiB)", which exclusively denotes 220 or 1,048,576 bytes.[56] This standard has seen little adoption by the computer industry, and the conventionally prefixed forms of "byte" continue to denote slightly different values depending on context.[57][58]

Avatar image for lostrib
lostrib

49999

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#36  Edited By lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

That's a lot of space reserved by the OS. unless he has some other shit on there taking up space

Avatar image for remaGloohcSdlO
remaGloohcSdlO

4152

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#37 remaGloohcSdlO
Member since 2005 • 4152 Posts

Non issue... Moving on...

Avatar image for lostrib
lostrib

49999

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#38  Edited By lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

@remaGloohcSdlO said:

Non issue... Moving on...

it is if you run out of hard drive space like this guy did

Avatar image for HalcyonScarlet
HalcyonScarlet

13838

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#39 HalcyonScarlet
Member since 2011 • 13838 Posts

The lost space isn't so much lost or consumed by the OS and apps, but is reserved by the os and it's whatever features.

Should be ok, 350Gb should be enough until they allow for external hdds. There isn't even enough good games to use up the hdd right now.

Avatar image for deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
deactivated-6127ced9bcba0

31700

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#40 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
Member since 2006 • 31700 Posts

WOW. No wonder they don't want to let you know how much you actually have on it.

Avatar image for princessgomez92
PrincessGomez92

5747

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 201

User Lists: 5

#41  Edited By PrincessGomez92
Member since 2013 • 5747 Posts

Hate getting less space than I was supposed to be getting.

Avatar image for deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
deactivated-6127ced9bcba0

31700

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#42  Edited By deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
Member since 2006 • 31700 Posts
@HalcyonScarlet said:

The lost space isn't so much lost or consumed by the OS and apps, but is reserved by the os and it's whatever features.

Should be ok, 350Gb should be enough until they allow for external hdds. There isn't even enough good games to use up the hdd right now.

Except that they make no mention of this. They say 500GB. That's obviously not true.

Avatar image for lostrib
lostrib

49999

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#43 lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

@airshocker said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

The lost space isn't so much lost or consumed by the OS and apps, but is reserved by the os and it's whatever features.

Should be ok, 350Gb should be enough until they allow for external hdds. There isn't even enough good games to use up the hdd right now.

Except that they make no mention of this. They say 500GB. That's obviously not true.

well no drive you buy is actually 500GB usable space, that drive probably had like 465GB usable to begin with

Avatar image for lostrib
lostrib

49999

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#44 lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

@princessgomez92 said:

Hate getting less space than I was supposed to be getting.

It happens on every storage device

Avatar image for deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
deactivated-6127ced9bcba0

31700

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#45 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
Member since 2006 • 31700 Posts

@lostrib said:

@airshocker said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

The lost space isn't so much lost or consumed by the OS and apps, but is reserved by the os and it's whatever features.

Should be ok, 350Gb should be enough until they allow for external hdds. There isn't even enough good games to use up the hdd right now.

Except that they make no mention of this. They say 500GB. That's obviously not true.

well no drive you buy is actually 500GB usable space, that drive probably had like 465GB usable to begin with

If we're talking about straight out of box before any OS it's much more than that. Probably 490 or so. With the OS installed it's obviously going to be less but 150GBs lost is EXCESSIVE.

Avatar image for princessgomez92
PrincessGomez92

5747

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 201

User Lists: 5

#46  Edited By PrincessGomez92
Member since 2013 • 5747 Posts

@lostrib said:

@princessgomez92 said:

Hate getting less space than I was supposed to be getting.

It happens on every storage device

Doesn't mean I have to like it. If it's supposed to be a 500GB hard drive, I expect to have 500GB of usable space.

Avatar image for RimacBugatti
RimacBugatti

1632

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 RimacBugatti
Member since 2013 • 1632 Posts

The OS should have been on a separate HDD. They shouldn't specify 500 GB if they didn't mean 500 GB of storage. Microsoft is a corporate scammer.

Avatar image for lostrib
lostrib

49999

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#48  Edited By lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

@airshocker said:

@lostrib said:

@airshocker said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

The lost space isn't so much lost or consumed by the OS and apps, but is reserved by the os and it's whatever features.

Should be ok, 350Gb should be enough until they allow for external hdds. There isn't even enough good games to use up the hdd right now.

Except that they make no mention of this. They say 500GB. That's obviously not true.

well no drive you buy is actually 500GB usable space, that drive probably had like 465GB usable to begin with

If we're talking about straight out of box before any OS it's much more than that. Probably 490 or so. With the OS installed it's obviously going to be less but 150GBs lost is EXCESSIVE.

No, it's actually much less than 490, like if you just took at as a storage drive for a PC (not for windows install) it would appear as 465GB. For example, my 640GB drive is only ~594GB

Avatar image for W1NGMAN-
W1NGMAN-

10109

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#49 W1NGMAN-
Member since 2008 • 10109 Posts

First thing I plan on doing when I jump into nex gen, picking up a new HDD

Avatar image for Dreams-Visions
Dreams-Visions

26578

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#50  Edited By Dreams-Visions
Member since 2006 • 26578 Posts

yo WTF.

It must be reserving a lot of HDD space for recording or swap files. Or it could be Windows being Windows. Not sure.