XBOX ONE looks like the better made console. Better build quality.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Search for "Sony LCD tv backlight" on Google. Or here, let me do it for you.. Sony lcd tv backlight - All that you'll see are people having problems with their Sony HDTV's. And I already posted a link that showed that people are having framerate and stutter problems with their PS3 super slims. And atleast Microsoft replaced the broken 360's free of charge. They even pay for overnight shipping.. I'm definitely getting a PS4, and I like Sony, but they have had their share of hardware problems, too. That's all that I was trying to point out. But you're defending Sony like YOU'RE the one getting paid. Saying that you went through 6 XBox 360's? Lol, give me a break...superclocked

How many different models of different devices Sony manufactures?

Does Samsung has a history of perfection? Or Philips?

Your point is very stupid...

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"] what do lcd's have to do with ps3?ManatuBeard

How many different models of different devices Sony manufactures?

Does Samsung has a history of perfection? Or Philips?

Your point is very stupid...

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Absolutely nothing. I was just pointing out that Sony doesn't have a perfect track record when it comes to hardware, either...superclocked

How many different models of different devices Sony manufactures?

Does Samsung has a history of perfection? Or Philips?

Your point is very stupid...

subpar cooling design and terrible x clamp design 

its blantatly obvious Sony hardware designers and engineers are much better, they managed to pack in more power in the PS4, along with the PSU inside the console and is it thinner, lighter, slimmer then the Xbone and about the same size as PS3 slim while xbone looks like a big VCR

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

How many different models of different devices Sony manufactures?

Does Samsung has a history of perfection? Or Philips?

Your point is very stupid...

xboxiphoneps3

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

Putting the grill on the top is a bad idea... people will place their game boxes on there and choke off the heat vents...

I hope that's just a design grill and not an actual vent - otherwise, it'll get HOT.

Not to mention general laws of gravity and dust...

 

Microsoft can't be that stupid. Not again (cough RROD cough)

 

Netherscourge

Xbox one looks nearly idenical to my Verizon Cable box minus the off color face plate.

Whats so special about it???

[QUOTE="TrooperManaic"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Sony has a high rate of hardware problems. Their high definition LCD's have always had issues, and games are barely playable on the new Playstation3 Super Slim console... Also, the Playstation consoles use laptop type coolers..XBox One uses a large desktop type cooler... superclocked

Lastly, it wasn't my first choice but by some miracle I now own a old  40" Sony flat screen LCD and my god, it looks better then allot of LED TV's and I should know, I sold them for years in a store that made me learn every little bit about them. Say what you want about Sony, they know how to make good long lasting hardware that is dependable. Unlike my 6th xbox that broke the day after I bought it, ya know this one

I have to say at least Microsoft replaced at least 2 of them in general which took weeks to send through the mail.

Lastly, Sony's fan is like that because it doesn't attract dust on the hardware pieces themselves, its much easier to clean a PS3 then an Xbox 360. Their heat sink also isn't that bad in terms of cooling as I hardly feel any heat drawn from my PS3 unlike my 360 which randomly shuts down if I don't have my air conditioner on. Also before you give me a rude comment, I have built more PC's then you could possibly imagine, don't think you can lecture me on heat sinks.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="superclocked"]No, it's a perfectly valid point. It's hypocritical of cows to hate on Microsoft because of the first version 360 that used subpar solder when Sony has a long history of problems with their hardware. No company is perfect...superclocked

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] superclocked's a silly lemrat who never provides facts and just tries to piss people off Shielder7

Sony engineers make M$oft engineers look like childs play 

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="superclocked"]It was only the early model 360's that had problems. At least they fixed the broken 360's for free. They even pay for overnight shipping both ways. Sony charges a hefty fee to fix PS3's that get the YLOD, which was quite prevalent, as well...superclocked

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="superclocked"]It was only the early model 360's that had problems. At least they fixed the broken 360's for free. They even pay for overnight shipping both ways. Sony charges a hefty fee to fix PS3's that get the YLOD, which was quite prevalent, as well...superclocked

he is clueless, everyone knows you are a hermit, but i guess you cant say anything good about the xbox one because sony fans are very insecure.

id love for microsoft to come out with a 900mhz clock, the build is condusive for it.   dat 120mm fan

X1 building materials:

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] superclocked's a silly lemrat who never provides facts and just tries to piss people off XBOunity

he is clueless, everyone knows you are a hermit, but i guess you cant say anything good about the xbox one because sony fans are very insecure.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

How many different models of different devices Sony manufactures?

Does Samsung has a history of perfection? Or Philips?

Your point is very stupid...

xboxiphoneps3

subpar cooling design and terrible x clamp design 

its blantatly obvious Sony hardware designers and engineers are much better, they managed to pack in more power in the PS4, along with the PSU inside the console and is it thinner, lighter, slimmer then the Xbone and about the same size as PS3 slim while xbone looks like a big VCR

No. It's that Microsoft and SONY were concentrating on two different things when they were designing their console. SONY got lucky with the higher density GDDR5 modules, which meant that they didn't need to include a ginormous eSRAM to boost their memory bandwidth.

Most of Microsoft R&D probably went into configuring their APU + eSRAM architecture. If SONY had the same vision microsoft had, they too would be facing the bad manufacuring yield issues.

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]You think that I'm a Lemming, eh? Here's my gaming system.. My $200 GPU is more powerful than the PS4 and XBox One COMBINED :P superclocked

he is clueless, everyone knows you are a hermit, but i guess you cant say anything good about the xbox one because sony fans are very insecure.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="superclocked"]No, it's a perfectly valid point. It's hypocritical of cows to hate on Microsoft because of the first version 360 that used subpar solder when Sony has a long history of problems with their hardware. No company is perfect...superclocked

I agree, it would've been nice if Sony replaced YLOD consoles for free, the only reason I think they never had to is because they only had a 10.6% failure rate compared to MS's 54.2% failure rate. From what I remember I thought MS was doing nothing about the RROD problems until class action lawsuits started popping up everywhere, at that point I'm not sure if MS was forced by court order or they decided to start fixing them before the courts made them but with a failure rate of 54.2% they would've had a lot of problems to deal with if they didn't fix them which ultimately could've led to a recall of all 360's.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2009/08/19/survey-xbox-360-failure-rate-is-54-2/

http://venturebeat.com/2008/10/16/microsoft-sued-for-allegedly-covering-up-xbox-360-defects/

They both look like they have a plastic case.  Beyond that, I'm not sure what exactly you are seeing.

The Xbox One has bigger case, fan! I don't trust AMD since they made the GPU in the 360 that overheated so I say good luck to the gamers that are buying the PS4 at launch. The X1 should be ok since it has bigger case, still I don't buy launch consoles. 

The Xbox One has bigger case, fan! I don't trust AMD since they made the GPU in the 360 that overheated so I say good luck to the gamers that are buying the PS4 at launch. 

xhawk27

Bigger case because the ONE has an inferior architectural setup compared to the PS4...

Im a playstation fan but this is %100 true tbh

gta50419

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

The Xbox One has bigger case, fan! I don't trust AMD since they made the GPU in the 360 that overheated so I say good luck to the gamers that are buying the PS4 at launch. 

CallOfDutyRulez

Bigger case because the ONE has an inferior architectural setup compared to the PS4...

Or maybe they are doing different things. HDMI input, Video switching, Live TV, etc. 

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

The Xbox One has bigger case, fan! I don't trust AMD since they made the GPU in the 360 that overheated so I say good luck to the gamers that are buying the PS4 at launch. 

xhawk27

Bigger case because the ONE has an inferior architectural setup compared to the PS4...

Or maybe they are doing different things. HDMI input, Video switching, Live TV, etc. 

How the hell is video switching and live TV gonna contribute to a larger case? Both of those are software, not hardware features.

The eSRAM alone accounts for 40% of the total transistor count of the xbox ONE. It's also reported to have bad yields and it overheats. So in the end, microsoft got a weaker console that exerts more heat and probably costs more to make.

The PS4 architecture is superior.

The XBOX ONE looks to be made much more robust and durable than the PS4. It weighs more, looks more stout, and seems to have better cooling as well.

The XBOX ONE is higher priced than the PS4 for a reason ---> It's better made with higher build quality!

The PS4 looks flimsy in comparison.

Who agrees?

Baurus_1

But no. 

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Bigger case because the ONE has an inferior architectural setup compared to the PS4...

CallOfDutyRulez

Or maybe they are doing different things. HDMI input, Video switching, Live TV, etc. 

How the hell is video switching and live TV gonna contribute to a larger case? Both of those are software, not hardware features.

The eSRAM alone accounts for 40% of the total transistor count of the xbox ONE. It's also reported to have bad yields and it overheats. So in the end, microsoft got a weaker console that exerts more heat and probably costs more to make.

The PS4 architecture is superior.

Have to see when both consoles are out!
 

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] Microsoft isnt too good at designing hardware, see RROD history on Xbox 360Ne-Plus-Ultra

I agree, it would've been nice if Sony replaced YLOD consoles for free, the only reason I think they never had to is because they only had a 10.6% failure rate compared to MS's 54.2% failure rate. From what I remember I thought MS was doing nothing about the RROD problems until class action lawsuits started popping up everywhere, at that point I'm not sure if MS was forced by court order or they decided to start fixing them before the courts made them but with a failure rate of 54.2% they would've had a lot of problems to deal with if they didn't fix them which ultimately could've led to a recall of all 360's.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2009/08/19/survey-xbox-360-failure-rate-is-54-2/

http://venturebeat.com/2008/10/16/microsoft-sued-for-allegedly-covering-up-xbox-360-defects/

The xbox looks so sexy.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

The Xbox One has bigger case, fan! I don't trust AMD since they made the GPU in the 360 that overheated so I say good luck to the gamers that are buying the PS4 at launch. 

CallOfDutyRulez

Bigger case because the ONE has an inferior architectural setup compared to the PS4...

You need a big case to hide big problems! :P

The xbox looks so sexy.

sukraj

Yeah, me thinks it's built like the original Xbox, like a tank. :P

TC, you really wanna say that an american built machine is better than a japanese built machine? LOOOOL, though I'm pretty much sure xbox's get made in China, still loool

every time you upset cows you will be labeled as a lemming...that's called butthurt :cool:.BTW awesome custom made fans setup :D

Tessellation

Is that why you enter every thread about the xbox one,with a huge damage control calling people butthurt,virgin basement dwellers.?:lol:

Is so funny when you try to act like a Hermit,hermits here now you are not one,and cows know it to,you just ran and hide under the PC when the weak xbox specs were leak and you have been since them fighting every one about it,you even told people to wait for Kotaku and SuperDae that they wold actually detail the real specs,and all they did was confirm the same spec leaked.

You were so owned that you did not posted for days,and when you did ignored every one who pointed how wrong you were..:lol: 

Your damage control on the xbox one spec is so high,that you don't even argue here any more,all you do is call people butthurt,virgin basement dwellers,and hide under this :cool: to try to hide your damage control.

You are not a Hermit you are a lemming be proud of what you are..:lol:

After the 360 I'd be highly skeptical of the build quality of any Xbox console.

After the 360 I'd be highly skeptical of the build quality of any Xbox console.

shellcase86

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] superclocked's a silly lemrat who never provides facts and just tries to piss people off TrooperManaic

I want to know, what cooling system is that? I sit my I5 at 4ghz at 40C, I want to squeeze the extra 1ghz or so out of it. I had it at 5 before and my system felt faster. Gaming performance was better.