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#1 BenjaminBanklin
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Ooooooh boy!

“Having Halo at our launch would have been tremendous,” said Cindy Walker, an Xbox spokeswoman. But “we are not reliant on massive exclusive titles to drive console adoption. Our players will have thousands of games from four generations of Xbox available to play on launch day.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/technology/xbox-series-x-playstation-5.html

Damn, I can just feel the looooong wait for new games coming out of that statement.

Xbox hopes you love old games, because BOY do they have a lot of them at their disposal. They don't need no stinking Halo, they're selling Xbox on love and gumption and loyalty... and some predatory financing will help too. New games are going to have to come second.

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#2  Edited By navyguy21
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She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

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I remember this generation starting out pretty crap in terms of games as well, until Sony eventually rolled out their big guns and ran away with it.

Yeah, Microsoft does have a content problem, I just think it's way too early to make much of a big deal out of it.

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#4  Edited By SecretPolice
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Cindy Walker, is spot on.

And as always with you and your ilk. MS/XBOX...

lol :P

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#5 BenjaminBanklin
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@navyguy21 said:

He said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Come on man

Semantics. You know what I'm talking about. Either way, they say you should be fine with hand-me-downs... four generations worth.

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They stops to even pretend they are trying.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@navyguy21 said:

He said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Come on man

Semantics. You know what I'm talking about. Either way, they say you should be fine with hand-me-downs... four generations worth.

You failed, just give up. You're like a gazelle with the lion's teeth already in your neck.. it's over.

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@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

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You failed, just give up. You're like a gazelle with the lion's teeth already in your neck.. it's over.

Xbox says they don't need big exclusives to to sell their console, and you telling ME it's over? LOLOL!

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#10 BenjaminBanklin
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@i_p_daily said:
@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

Man, every time you guys get bad news you get mad at the messenger. Welp, this is already a doozy.

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lol, I can imagine Don Mattrick saying, "you want games?" well there's a system for that, it's called Xbox One."

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I’m not sure what you wanted her to say here. “You’re right, we’re screwed!” Spokespeople give spokespeople answers

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@i_p_daily said:
@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

omg godfall(not on xbox), demon souls, ratchet and clank, miles, astrobots all are launch window games.

sorry but sony is making next gen exclusives in 2021 more than one.

there is nothing in 2021 for the series x other than medium rest are cross gen games.

difference between no exclusives and having exclusives that your not interested in.

it still has exclusive.

series x has no exclusives just what on the gamepass now other than a few that will come out on xbox one and series x around that time.

series x has no game that will use there power. just third party and first party cross gen games at launch.

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Didn't work out so well this gen for them.

All they really had to offer was the Forza series and Sunset Overdrive. Oh and the Ori games are good.

Everything else either flopped (Halo 5, Gears 4, Gears 5, Quantum Break, Ryse, Recore) or came to other platforms (Cuphead, Super Lucky's Tale, PUBG, Dead Rising).

Do better, Microsoft.

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sucks for xbox fans that want that game that is all next gen. we always had games to try on our systems.

now there saying we don't need AAA games to sell consoles.

this is the reason they lost this gen. they said single player games are died and exclusives does not matter.

funny how xbox fans will take this and find another excuse for xbox for not having a next gen game like ryse, or halo, at launch.

even though original xbox and 360 and xbox one had launch exclusives but now there not needed?

but yet that more user friendly for the gamers? xbox fans but your starting to look gullible.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Ooooooh boy!

“Having Halo at our launch would have been tremendous,” said Cindy Walker, an Xbox spokeswoman. But “we are not reliant on massive exclusive titles to drive console adoption. Our players will have thousands of games from four generations of Xbox available to play on launch day.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/technology/xbox-series-x-playstation-5.html

Damn, I can just feel the looooong wait for new games coming out of that statement.

Xbox hopes you love old games, because BOY do they have a lot of them at their disposal. They don't need no stinking Halo, they're selling Xbox on love and gumption and loyalty... and some predatory financing will help too. New games are going to have to come second.

How is All Access predatory? There is no interest rate and you actually pay less for the console and game pass then you would if you bought them separately

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#17 Eoten
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@gifford38 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

omg godfall(not on xbox), demon souls, ratchet and clank, miles, astrobots all are launch window games.

sorry but sony is making next gen exclusives in 2021 more than one.

there is nothing in 2021 for the series x other than medium rest are cross gen games.

difference between no exclusives and having exclusives that your not interested in.

it still has exclusive.

series x has no exclusives just what on the gamepass now other than a few that will come out on xbox one and series x around that time.

series x has no game that will use there power. just third party and first party cross gen games at launch.

Does it matter if they are on Windows at launch? Consoles are sold at a loss, so if consumers provide their own hardware (in this case, a PC) then M$ still makes just as much as they would on game sales without having to take the loss of selling you a console.

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@BenjaminBanklin: That's what you took from that? I saw it more as Sony has a handful of exclusives as incentives to buy their console....we have more reasons.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@i_p_daily said:
@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

Man, every time you guys get bad news you get mad at the messenger. Welp, this is already a doozy.

The problem is the messenger always get the news wrong, try reading it again or have someone explain it for you!

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#20 hardwenzen
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Give it 6 months after launch and see what they're saying. If the system does well, but certain to hear their sales. If it does on the Xbone level, they will pretend sales don't matter.

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@i_p_daily said:
@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

Regardless if TC failed on his part, all I know is Sony/MS haven't let finalized their launch line up and we all know everyone wants AAA games, MS know this well.

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@madrocketeer said:

I remember this generation starting out pretty crap in terms of games as well, until Sony eventually rolled out their big guns and ran away with it.

Yeah, Microsoft does have a content problem, I just think it's way too early to make much of a big deal out of it.

To set the record straight. PS4 was running away with it from the start with the reveals. MS made just about every bad move in the book from price to power and media machine > games console blonder and that's the real story.

By the time both had noteworthy exclusives come out the race had long been decided. Just sayin. :P

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#23  Edited By Bluestars
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@BenjaminBanklin:

after fact checking you op...i can confirm you are talking bollox hah

a.she was mainly refering to halo.

b.i and millions of others will buy an x or s this holiday/launch period

this thread is not “shooting yourself in the foot,“,its blowing your own f#%king leg off

hah

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@BenjaminBanklin: That's what you took from that? I saw it more as Sony has a handful of exclusives as incentives to buy their console....we have more reasons.

I mean, being that they're gonna be leaning on old games for a long time, and Halo is still crossplat (for now), you don't really have reasons to buy the new console yet. Just sayin'.

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#25  Edited By Archangel3371  Online
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Well she’s not wrong there. They are still going to sell systems without having a massive exclusive at launch. 🤷‍♂️

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#26 BenjaminBanklin
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@rrjim1: I don't know how else you can spell out, "we don't need massive exclusives to sell a console". Those are the kinds of words that should be making the money stay nice and cozy in your wallet.

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Well another failed thread by another Sony fanny that actively keep track of Xbox news. 😂

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#28  Edited By madrocketeer
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@SecretPolice said:

To set the record straight. PS4 was running away with it from the start with the reveals. MS made just about every bad move in the book from price to power and media machine > games console blonder and that's the real story.

By the time both had noteworthy exclusives come out the race had long been decided. Just sayin. :P

I suppose Sony did have a lot more upcoming stuff to hype about, but hype is not a finished, playable product. Microsoft did make a lot of mistakes in their initial pitch, but did recover a bit since then.

Just saying, I see a lot of the same deal with this coming gen; lots of hype, not a whole lot of games, at least early on. I don't think the generation is going to be decided two months before the consoles launch.

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@madrocketeer said:
@SecretPolice said:

To set the record straight. PS4 was running away with it from the start with the reveals. MS made just about every bad move in the book from price to power and media machine > games console blonder and that's the real story.

By the time both had noteworthy exclusives come out the race had long been decided. Just sayin. :P

I suppose Sony did have a lot more upcoming stuff to hype about, but hype is not a finished, playable product. Microsoft did make a lot of mistakes in their initial pitch, but did recover a bit since then.

Just saying, I see a lot of the same deal with this coming gen; lots of hype, not a whole of lot of games, at least early on. I don't think the generation is going to be decided two months before the consoles launch.

That was my point and agreed. :)

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#30  Edited By Gifford38
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@eoten said:
@gifford38 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

Shhh let him fail its an entertaining show lol.

omg godfall(not on xbox), demon souls, ratchet and clank, miles, astrobots all are launch window games.

sorry but sony is making next gen exclusives in 2021 more than one.

there is nothing in 2021 for the series x other than medium rest are cross gen games.

difference between no exclusives and having exclusives that your not interested in.

it still has exclusive.

series x has no exclusives just what on the gamepass now other than a few that will come out on xbox one and series x around that time.

series x has no game that will use there power. just third party and first party cross gen games at launch.

Does it matter if they are on Windows at launch? Consoles are sold at a loss, so if consumers provide their own hardware (in this case, a PC) then M$ still makes just as much as they would on game sales without having to take the loss of selling you a console.

you don't think those pc gamers don't want next gen looking games from gamepass when they update there gpu or cpu on that pc?

thing is we are talking about console players getting the shaft from xbox. we don't need to sell you our console. fact is console gamers will buy the xbox at launch and should have games for that player to play that looks next gen like every launch next gen game in the past.

there is no reason why gamepass can't have next gen titles at launch that takes advantage of the most powerful console ever made. why do all of them need to play one xbox one?

fact is xbox is selling you a game subscription instead of a next gen console that plays next gen games.

until 2022 xbox fans needs to rely on third party to give them next gen titles.

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#31  Edited By Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

you don't think those pc gamers don't want next gen looking games from gamepass when they update there gpu or cpu on that pc?

thing is we are talking about console players getting the shaft from xbox. we don't need to sell you our console. fact is console gamers will buy the xbox at launch and should have games for that player to play that looks next gen like every launch next gen game in the past.

there is no reason why gamepass can't have next gen titles at launch that takes advantage of the most powerful console ever made. why do all of them need to play one xbox one?

fact is xbox is selling you a game subscription instead of a next gen console that plays next gen games.

until 2022 xbox fans needs to really on third party to give them next gen titles.

How is console players getting shaft from Xbox?

There factually would be more games playable on the Series X|S than the PS5.

What next gen game is being released on the PS5 launch day? Don't give me launch window nonsense that has no specified date.

The fact is Xbox is selling a console. You claiming they are selling a sub and not a console is objectively false.

I am aware that this discussion is a lost cause.

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

you don't think those pc gamers don't want next gen looking games from gamepass when they update there gpu or cpu on that pc?

thing is we are talking about console players getting the shaft from xbox. we don't need to sell you our console. fact is console gamers will buy the xbox at launch and should have games for that player to play that looks next gen like every launch next gen game in the past.

there is no reason why gamepass can't have next gen titles at launch that takes advantage of the most powerful console ever made. why do all of them need to play one xbox one?

fact is xbox is selling you a game subscription instead of a next gen console that plays next gen games.

until 2022 xbox fans needs to really on third party to give them next gen titles.

How is console players getting shaft from Xbox?

There factually would be more games playable on the Series X|S than the PS5.

What next gen game is being released on the PS5 launch day? Don't give me launch window nonsense that has no specified date.

The fact is Xbox is selling a console. You claiming they are selling a sub and not a console is objectively false.

I am aware that this discussion is a lost cause.

there not trying to sell you the console. even digital foundry said it and utubers and the internet.

fact is ps5 will have a next gen games at launch.

the original xbox, 360, and xbox one had launch next gen only games.

saying they don't need next gen titles day one to sell a console is just stupid to say.

we have all of gamepass games you play now instead. so when the person buying the series x at launch will not be able to buy that one game that takes advantage of the next gen machine.

you know 99% people that buy a next gen console always buys that one game that is not on last gen machine.

xbox one buyers bought ryse at launch just for that reason.

ps4 buyers bought shadow fall.

no one in the history of gaming bought a next gen machine to play game they can play now on there console they already have.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Ooooooh boy!

“Having Halo at our launch would have been tremendous,” said Cindy Walker, an Xbox spokeswoman. But “we are not reliant on massive exclusive titles to drive console adoption. Our players will have thousands of games from four generations of Xbox available to play on launch day.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/technology/xbox-series-x-playstation-5.html

Damn, I can just feel the looooong wait for new games coming out of that statement.

Xbox hopes you love old games, because BOY do they have a lot of them at their disposal. They don't need no stinking Halo, they're selling Xbox on love and gumption and loyalty... and some predatory financing will help too. New games are going to have to come second.

Did you just say love and gumption xD

You're a damn nut lol But it's true...statements like that make me think "WOW...when are the new games coming"

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#35  Edited By LouiXIII
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@navyguy21 said:

She said massive EXCLUSIVE titles, never said he doesn't want AAA games.

Also, she was talking about console launch.

I don't think PS5 has any AAA launch exclusives either

Come on man

I thought an AAA title was a massive exclusive...just saying

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Couple things... the fanboy slant and inaccurate reporting is just sad. And the lack of shame by a few posters here is kinda odd. They make fools of themselves, get called out, then continue to behave badly. I guess some people just like attention no matter how they get it.

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#37 sealionact
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@louixiii: lol....no. For example rdr2 is an AAA without being an exclusive.

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Even the pr deflecting to gamepass.

You can ask them why they still using aa batteries in 2020 and they will still include gamepass in the excuse.

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@Ant_17:

batteries?

HaH

cows mad disease

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@bluestars said:

@Ant_17:

batteries?

HaH

cows mad disease

Pretty much. It's easy to see they are indoctrinated to the Holy words of Almighty Sony, and if things are different from what Almighty Sony does, it's bad, mkay?

If they were to actually play both systems and compare them, they might find that using AA batteries is actually preferable to DS4's weak internal batteries that don't hold much of a charge.

With AA batteries you can play for a lot longer and never have to worry about those stupid cables.

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@Ant_17 said:

Even the pr deflecting to gamepass.

You can ask them why they still using aa batteries in 2020 and they will still include gamepass in the excuse.

maybe because you don't have to buy a new controller when your battery turns to shit. Maybe there are swappable batterypacks as well (which are way lighter than normal batteries)

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Man, I can't wait to buy a next gen console so that I can play previous gen games.

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@gifford38 said:

there not trying to sell you the console. even digital foundry said it and utubers and the internet.

fact is ps5 will have a next gen games at launch.

the original xbox, 360, and xbox one had launch next gen only games.

saying they don't need next gen titles day one to sell a console is just stupid to say.

we have all of gamepass games you play now instead. so when the person buying the series x at launch will not be able to buy that one game that takes advantage of the next gen machine.

you know 99% people that buy a next gen console always buys that one game that is not on last gen machine.

xbox one buyers bought ryse at launch just for that reason.

ps4 buyers bought shadow fall.

no one in the history of gaming bought a next gen machine to play game they can play now on there console they already have.

Again what is this next gen game you are referring to that will be available at launch for the PS5?

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

there not trying to sell you the console. even digital foundry said it and utubers and the internet.

fact is ps5 will have a next gen games at launch.

the original xbox, 360, and xbox one had launch next gen only games.

saying they don't need next gen titles day one to sell a console is just stupid to say.

we have all of gamepass games you play now instead. so when the person buying the series x at launch will not be able to buy that one game that takes advantage of the next gen machine.

you know 99% people that buy a next gen console always buys that one game that is not on last gen machine.

xbox one buyers bought ryse at launch just for that reason.

ps4 buyers bought shadow fall.

no one in the history of gaming bought a next gen machine to play game they can play now on there console they already have.

Again what is this next gen game you are referring to that will be available at launch for the PS5?

well godfall is one game i want. which got a graphical update from the last time hey showed it.

thing is we don't know the release date for these games. fact is we do expect these games in 2020 or 2021.

so in 2020 ans 2021 we get these games that are not on xbox.

kena, godfall, ratchet and clank, demon souls, hzd2, returnal, deathloop, astro playroom(my first game im playing), bugsnax, sack boy, Destruction AllStars, GhostWire: Tokyo, miles, odd world, stray, grand 7

plus 2 big title games in 2021 they have not told us yet.

all these games are going the first year its out that will not be xbox. some are on pc but not xbox.

this does not include third party games that are on both systems. like ass creed ect.

thats is 18 games in its first year that is not on xbox.

sorry xbox big games will not be out until 2022. like avowed, fable, forza, gears.

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@gifford38 said:

well godfall is one game i want. which got a graphical update from the last time hey showed it.

thing is we don't know the release date for these games. fact is we do expect these games in 2020 or 2021.

so in 2020 ans 2021 we get these games that are not on xbox.

kena, godfall, ratchet and clank, demon souls, hzd2, returnal, deathloop, astro playroom(my first game im playing), bugsnax, sack boy, Destruction AllStars, GhostWire: Tokyo, miles, odd world, stray, grand 7

plus 2 big title games in 2021 they have not told us yet.

all these games are going the first year its out that will not be xbox. some are on pc but not xbox.

this does not include third party games that are on both systems. like ass creed ect.

thats is 18 games in its first year that is not on xbox.

sorry xbox big games will not be out until 2022. like avowed, fable, forza, gears.

You stated "fact is ps5 will have a next gen games at launch." What are these AT launch NEXT GEN games you are referring to?

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@rrjim1: I don't know how else you can spell out, "we don't need massive exclusives to sell a console". Those are the kinds of words that should be making the money stay nice and cozy in your wallet.

It's the word "massive" that you don't understand, even Sony doesn't have massive exclusives.

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@louixiii: lol....no. For example rdr2 is an AAA without being an exclusive.

I know that not every title is an exclusive but an exclusive AAA title is a massive exclusive is the point I'm making. Halo, TLoU, Mario, etc.

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Do we often get AAA titles at launch? I mean, Infamous Second Son was launch window... I guess Shadow Fall would count in terms of the budget, even though the game was pretty poop.

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

well godfall is one game i want. which got a graphical update from the last time hey showed it.

thing is we don't know the release date for these games. fact is we do expect these games in 2020 or 2021.

so in 2020 ans 2021 we get these games that are not on xbox.

kena, godfall, ratchet and clank, demon souls, hzd2, returnal, deathloop, astro playroom(my first game im playing), bugsnax, sack boy, Destruction AllStars, GhostWire: Tokyo, miles, odd world, stray, grand 7

plus 2 big title games in 2021 they have not told us yet.

all these games are going the first year its out that will not be xbox. some are on pc but not xbox.

this does not include third party games that are on both systems. like ass creed ect.

thats is 18 games in its first year that is not on xbox.

sorry xbox big games will not be out until 2022. like avowed, fable, forza, gears.

You stated "fact is ps5 will have a next gen games at launch." What are these AT launch NEXT GEN games you are referring to?

we don't know exact release dates yet. same as xbox launch games. fact is even phil said no series x exclusive until 2022. the only one i see is medium. but nothing from there first party. all xbox console in past had something next gen in there line up from first party devs. gamepass is all they care about now. whats the point of the worlds strongest system if there just making cross gen games the first 2 years?

fact is if they bought these developers to late in the gen to have any thing ready for next gen. but once they do then yes xbox might have those great next gen titles gamers are looking for.

but until then xbox fans will be playing current gamepass games and third party next gen games.

but i will get back to you after todays show lol.

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@gifford38 said:

we don't know exact release dates yet. same as xbox launch games. fact is even phil said no series x exclusive until 2022. the only one i see is medium. but nothing from there first party. all xbox console in past had something next gen in there line up from first party devs. gamepass is all they care about now. whats the point of the worlds strongest system if there just making cross gen games the first 2 years?

fact is if they bought these developers to late in the gen to have any thing ready for next gen. but once they do then yes xbox might have those great next gen titles gamers are looking for.

but until then xbox fans will be playing current gamepass games and third party next gen games.

but i will get back to you after todays show lol.

My question has nothing to do with the Xbox. I am asking you for the third time. What are the next gen launch titles that you said "fact is ps5 will have a next gen games at launch." would be available at launch on the PS5?