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Digital Distribution and 675 dollar monthly internet bills are the future? :D
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Digital Distribution and 675 dollar monthly internet bills are the future? :D
[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]If this is the sign of things to come. Gaming online will die. MrBluRay003
Comcast to implement bandwidth cap.
Bandwidth caps and 675 dollar internet charges are the future. :D
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/29/comcast-set-to-begin-bandwidth-capping-come-october-1st/
Well I don't game online very much. This is something which will bring gaming back years. MMOs and any other gaming form of online would die. Unless they find a way to lower the bandwidth the programs need to run.
[QUOTE="MrBluRay003"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]If this is the sign of things to come. Gaming online will die. HarlockJC
Comcast to implement bandwidth cap.
Bandwidth caps and 675 dollar internet charges are the future. :D
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/08/29/comcast-set-to-begin-bandwidth-capping-come-october-1st/
Well I don't game online very much. This is something which will bring gaming back years. MMOs and any other gaming form of online would die. Unless they find a way to lower the bandwidth the programs need to run.
Not a lot of ISPs charge for bandwidth, or atleast have solutions with unlimited bandwidth when they do. As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to panic.
[QUOTE="ejstrup"]that could just aswell have been a PS3 user :|HarlockJC
it could has well be someone who plays SSBB online. It affects all gamers for all systems.
So TC once again provides a link with no actual proof it's tied into XBL...
AOL used to bandwidth throttle so I switched ISPs. at the time my 1Mb line was being throttled to 300k or less.
certain ISPs still do bandwidth throttle & im not talking about heavy users or P2P- im just talking about users who surf the net.
411 Gigs? There is no way that that was from Live. Gaming data is no where near that intensive, memory wise. Its relaying button presses, not transmitting all game data to everyone.
To amass that much usage in a month, he is either a super pirate or running a server.
In any case. Bandwidth caps are crap, I'm glad they aren't used where I live, yet anyway.
You're missing the point TC, as well as others in this thread - the point is that this guy got screwed over by his ISP. Reality? No one should use an ISP that caps you. If you're paying $45 a month for high-speed internet, what is the point if you can't actually download anything?
Anyone with netflicks who buys movies and music off the Apple store would blow through that cap in the first five days. Cable companies are asses with a government-sponsored monopoly. Instead of turning against each other like jackals, you need to be phoning up your local representative and saying "outlaw this ****".
You're missing the point TC, as well as others in this thread - the point is that this guy got screwed over by his ISP. Reality? No one should use an ISP that throttles you. If you're paying $45 a month for high-speed internet, what is the point if you can't actually download anything?
Anyone with netflicks who buys movies and music off the Apple store would blow through that cap in the first five days. Cable companies are asses with a government-sponsored monopoly. Instead of turning against each other like jackals, you need to be phoning up your local representative and saying "outlaw this ****".
subrosian
um, i think you kinda missed the point.
this isn't about throttling. had he been throttled his speed would be cut and there's no way he'd have been able to download that much.
this is about an ISP charging too much for overage without having a hard cap. it's like buying a subscription to the new yorker and getting charged again for each time you read it - which should be illegal imo.
i'd like to add that he didn't get charged that much - and this is FUD. i use rogers too, and as a part of them advertising the rollout of their new bandwidth charges they were showing you how much it would cost with no cap. thing is they only charge to an extra 50$ maximum... there's a reason the person that took that image cut off what it says right below.
How does someone exceed 400gb? Streaming movies, or was that for several months?In any case. Bandwidth caps are crap, I'm glad they aren't used where I live, yet anyway.
mr_mozilla
Plenty of ways. Video conferencing you could blow through a huge amount of bandwidth quickly. Streaming movies over netflicks. Watching TV on legal sites like Hulu. Downloading HD movies from the Apple store. Playing bandwidth intensive games like World of Warcraft.
If you have four people in a household (quite common) and one internet connection, that cap would be incredibly easy to break. Four college guys in a house? Forget it!
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Caps are just a way for cable companies, who were given a government-sponsored monopoly in many parts of the US, to expoit customers so they can continue to make huge profits without having to pay the infrastructure upgrades out of pocket. This crap needs to be outlawed - yeah sure, you can have a 30 mb/s connection - but if you actually put it to use, we'll fine you.
Why don't I just pay for a car I can only drive 5 miles per month?
[QUOTE="subrosian"]You're missing the point TC, as well as others in this thread - the point is that this guy got screwed over by his ISP. Reality? No one should use an ISP that throttles you. If you're paying $45 a month for high-speed internet, what is the point if you can't actually download anything?
Anyone with netflicks who buys movies and music off the Apple store would blow through that cap in the first five days. Cable companies are asses with a government-sponsored monopoly. Instead of turning against each other like jackals, you need to be phoning up your local representative and saying "outlaw this ****".
3picuri3
um, i think you kinda missed the point.
this isn't about throttling. had he been throttled his speed would be cut and there's no way he'd have been able to download that much.
this is about an ISP charging too much for overage without having a hard cap. it's like buying a subscription to the new yorker and getting charged again for each time you read it - which should be illegal imo.
By throttling I meant caps - sorry for the word switch.
And did you not ready the entirety of my post?- I already said this crap needs to be illegal. The government lets cable companies have monopolies - and this is what happens - they look for ways to screw us over. In many areas people don't even have a choice - it's one cable company for high speed internet, or dial up, and that's it. Unbelievable - frankly, he should start a class action lawsuit, because he'd likely win.
[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]How does someone exceed 400gb? Streaming movies, or was that for several months?In any case. Bandwidth caps are crap, I'm glad they aren't used where I live, yet anyway.
subrosian
Plenty of ways. Video conferencing you could blow through a huge amount of bandwidth quickly. Streaming movies over netflicks. Watching TV on legal sites like Hulu. Downloading HD movies from the Apple store. Playing bandwidth intensive games like World of Warcraft.
If you have four people in a household (quite common) and one internet connection, that cap would be incredibly easy to break. Four college guys in a house? Forget it!
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Caps are just a way for cable companies, who were given a government-sponsored monopoly in many parts of the US, to expoit customers so they can continue to make huge profits without having to pay the infrastructure upgrades out of pocket. This crap needs to be outlawed - yeah sure, you can have a 30 mb/s connection - but if you actually put it to use, we'll fine you.
Why don't I just pay for a car I can only drive 5 miles per month?
Rogers actually has a much better overage cap plan than most ISPs. the portion of the bill in the image isn't what he paid, the hard cap is 50$ over per month. it was a promo bit they did on bills for a while to get people used to the idea of caps, and to show them how badly some people get it in some parts of the world. a little sleazy, but the fact remains this is FUD and the cap is 50$ above the bandwidth limit per month, which is quite reasonable given the cap (i'm a heavy user and haven't gone over once).
[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="subrosian"]You're missing the point TC, as well as others in this thread - the point is that this guy got screwed over by his ISP. Reality? No one should use an ISP that throttles you. If you're paying $45 a month for high-speed internet, what is the point if you can't actually download anything?
Anyone with netflicks who buys movies and music off the Apple store would blow through that cap in the first five days. Cable companies are asses with a government-sponsored monopoly. Instead of turning against each other like jackals, you need to be phoning up your local representative and saying "outlaw this ****".
subrosian
um, i think you kinda missed the point.
this isn't about throttling. had he been throttled his speed would be cut and there's no way he'd have been able to download that much.
this is about an ISP charging too much for overage without having a hard cap. it's like buying a subscription to the new yorker and getting charged again for each time you read it - which should be illegal imo.
By throttling I meant caps - sorry for the word switch.
And did you not ready the entirety of my post?- I already said this crap needs to be illegal. The government lets cable companies have monopolies - and this is what happens - they look for ways to screw us over. In many areas people don't even have a choice - it's one cable company for high speed internet, or dial up, and that's it. Unbelievable - frankly, he should start a class action lawsuit, because he'd likely win.
calm down :) read my other posts. this is complete FUD, there's a reason the bill is cropped ;)
just checking to see if i have one of these bills so i can show you guys what i'm talking about.
here it is in point form while i look for one to scan (if i haven't tossed them all).
- Rogers announced a bandwidth cap about 6 months before implementation
- Rogers started promo portions of the bill (advert basically) that tells you how much you're using and what your charge would be if they didn't have a billing cap
- Rogers announced they would charge a maximum of 50$ in excess of your normal bandwidth allowance
Long story short - that isn't an actual bill, it was an example used to illustrate your usage habits and get your comfortable with the fact you were soon to be paying 50$ extra a month if you didn't slow down.
Emotep? :o I remember you! Anyways, this kinda thing could happen to anyone. Luckily, I don't live in Canada and have to use Rogers. :DBioShockOwnz
Comcast new plan is far worse, actually Rogers had one of the best cap programs in NA. and I think it's pretty fair, people that use that much should be paying more because they're likely pirating. i download tons a month and game and i NEVER exceed it. Comcast on the other hand you're pretty much guaranteed to exceed it be design.
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