Xbox with Blu-Ray Drive

Will Microsoft have to upgrade their format? If 25-50gb games are to be ported from PS3 to Xbox360, wouldn't just using multiple DVDs, compression, or cutting content be good enough?

Besides, games like Gears of War only took up about 7gb.

For years, companies like Hitachi and TDK have been making these 100-200gb Blu-Ray discs - but we haven't seen any game come close to being that big. Will the gap between DVD and Blu-Ray become more and more like the gap between CD and DVD as time goes on?

Hideo Kojima has asked Sony for 100gb discs for the release of MGS4 because the 50gb discs were not enough.

Well, Microsoft has repeatedly said that they would not add Blu-Ray to the current Xbox for various reasons. Currently, I think that Microsoft has a strong enough grip of the gaming industry to actually hold back PS3 games from being bigger than SSDL 8.5gb. It would take a lot more PS3 purchasers to justify devs making 100gb games for the PS3 and then scaling them down for the Xbox 360.

Nonetheless, last month, Microsoft and Sony met at a dinner meeting to discuss the possibilities. As for the next Next Gen, I think that Microsoft might have it in the cards to use Blu-Ray over something like a 10 terabyte hard drive for downloading games and movies - so what do you think?

im not going to say yes or no but hearing 360 somewhat already in trouble this early with disc space is concerning. hearing it from Bizarre and rockstar. Bizarre said they actually had to cut some stuff out of pgr4 to get eerything to fit on one discArsenal325

This whole "space" issue is complete garbage. If PC games don't need to be -big- in size, PS3 games sure as heck don't need to be. It's a gimmick to make something -seem- better. Nothing more. It's just so sad that so many cows are using this as an excuse as to why the PS3 is so great.

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]im not going to say yes or no but hearing 360 somewhat already in trouble this early with disc space is concerning. hearing it from Bizarre and rockstar. Bizarre said they actually had to cut some stuff out of pgr4 to get eerything to fit on one discxsubtownerx

This whole "space" issue is complete garbage. If PC games don't need to be -big- in size, PS3 games sure as heck don't need to be. It's a gimmick to make something -seem- better. Nothing more. It's just so sad that so many cows are using this as an excuse as to why the PS3 is so great.

A gimmick? So it's like part of Sony's viral marketing strategy to get people thinking of Blu-Ray? Actually, I wouldn't doubt it!

The Blu-Ray will be a leader in the format of games and movies in a short time, it already is starting to show in some games and movies that are on Blu-Ray are looking better all the time. It's just a matter of time before M$ will have to use Blu-Ray in there console. And with the way they charge for things this console could cost as much and very possibly more than what the PS3 cost when it was released.jimm895

I don't think it's TOTALLY needed this generation as multi-disc games don't bother me. Especially with the current slow speed of a Blu Ray drive. Once the drive gets faster and games get larger, I could see the next xbox using one, especially as BD has won the format war. Eddie5vs1

One problem is, certain genres mean they can't change discs. FPS disc change anyone? :P

Either way, both Bizzare and Rockstar have made slight complaints about DVD. Bizzare couldn't include full day/night weather cycles and Rockstar..just hate compressing :P

"It wont happen MS doesent want that trash on the 360."

lol @ "that trash" not being wanted on something with a fail rate like none other.

It ain't gonna happen and I wish people would stop acting like it it is going to happen. I don't even think the next Xbox is gonna have Blu-ray.

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]im not going to say yes or no but hearing 360 somewhat already in trouble this early with disc space is concerning. hearing it from Bizarre and rockstar. Bizarre said they actually had to cut some stuff out of pgr4 to get eerything to fit on one discxsubtownerx

This whole "space" issue is complete garbage. If PC games don't need to be -big- in size, PS3 games sure as heck don't need to be. It's a gimmick to make something -seem- better. Nothing more. It's just so sad that so many cows are using this as an excuse as to why the PS3 is so great.

You do know most PC games are install on your hard drive...Just aheads up.

It wont happen MS doesent want that trash on the 360.Flexmaster_365

Kinda funny considering your console is probably broke.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]It wont happen MS doesent want that trash on the 360.Ragnarok1051

Kinda funny considering your console is probably broke.

Atleast it doesent come with useless parts.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]It wont happen MS doesent want that trash on the 360.Flexmaster_365

Kinda funny considering your console is probably broke.

Atleast it doesent come with useless parts.

What useless parts are you talking about? You do know though that when your console is broke, the whole thing is useless.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]It wont happen MS doesent want that trash on the 360.Ragnarok1051

Kinda funny considering your console is probably broke.

Atleast it doesent come with useless parts.

What useless parts are you talking about? You do know though that when your console is broke, the whole thing is useless.

Its working just fine...WTF are you talking about?

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]im not going to say yes or no but hearing 360 somewhat already in trouble this early with disc space is concerning. hearing it from Bizarre and rockstar. Bizarre said they actually had to cut some stuff out of pgr4 to get eerything to fit on one discxsubtownerx

This whole "space" issue is complete garbage. If PC games don't need to be -big- in size, PS3 games sure as heck don't need to be. It's a gimmick to make something -seem- better. Nothing more. It's just so sad that so many cows are using this as an excuse as to why the PS3 is so great.

you do realize that the reason PC games come on 1 DVD is because you install the whole game onto your PC. The files come highly compressed, and then are installed onto you PC. But for console games where the info has to be read on the fly, it becomes much harder to compress data unless you wanna have insane load times and stuttering gameplay.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]It wont happen MS doesent want that trash on the 360.Flexmaster_365

Kinda funny considering your console is probably broke.

Atleast it doesent come with useless parts.

What useless parts are you talking about? You do know though that when your console is broke, the whole thing is useless.

Its working just fine...WTF are you talking about?

I could ask you the same thing.

I could ask you the same thing.

Ragnarok1051

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

Was the HDMI a useless added on feature? or the 4 usb jacks that you can plug and play with almost anything?

your stupidity is confusing me

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I could ask you the same thing.

Flexmaster_365

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

how is blu-ray pointless again? last i remember, playstation3 games come on blu-ray discs so i dont think its useless. :| thats like saying "Stupid X360 and its DVD drive...why arent they using Cartridges!?" :|

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I could ask you the same thing.

Flexmaster_365

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

Why is blu-ray useless?

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I could ask you the same thing.

II_Seraphim_II

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

how is blu-ray pointless again? last i remember, playstation3 games come on blu-ray discs so i dont think its useless. :| thats like saying "Stupid X360 and its DVD drive...why arent they using Cartridges!?" :|

Because as we have seen with Oblivion and GTA4 DVD is more than enough for the biggest games.

Because as we have seen with Oblivion and GTA4 DVD is more than enough for the biggest games.

Flexmaster_365

At one point did you accept DVD over CD?

Is GTAIV only going to be on one DVD disc for the 360?poeton22

Yup

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I could ask you the same thing.

Flexmaster_365

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

Hahaha you think blu-ray is useless. Blu-ray is built into the PS3 and its games run on Blu-ray disc so I wouldn't call it useless at all.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

Because as we have seen with Oblivion and GTA4 DVD is more than enough for the biggest games.

Cute_Red_Panda

At one point did you accept DVD over CD?

No not until every other game coming out required multiple CD's and we are no where near that point with DVD.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I could ask you the same thing.

Ragnarok1051

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

Hahaha you think blu-ray is useless. Blu-ray is built into the PS3 and its games run on Blu-ray disc so I wouldn't call it useless at all.

Cause Sony made you buy it, milkage as usual. The biggest games like Oblivion and GTA4 run easily on a single DVD.

[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

Because as we have seen with Oblivion and GTA4 DVD is more than enough for the biggest games.

Flexmaster_365

At one point did you accept DVD over CD?

No not until every other game coming out required multiple CD's and we are no where near that point with DVD.

Why wait for most games to require multiple DVD when the technology of having bigger space on one disc exists now?

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I could ask you the same thing.

Flexmaster_365

Im talking about the useless added on features in the PS3, like blu ray and you are talking about my 360 being broken which it clearly isnt.

Hahaha you think blu-ray is useless. Blu-ray is built into the PS3 and its games run on Blu-ray disc so I wouldn't call it useless at all.

Cause Sony made you buy it, milkage as usual. The biggest games like Oblivion and GTA4 run easily on a single DVD.

I wasn't aware that I bought anything that had the word "Blu-Ray" on it.

[QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"][QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"][QUOTE="Flexmaster_365"]

Because as we have seen with Oblivion and GTA4 DVD is more than enough for the biggest games.

Cute_Red_Panda

At one point did you accept DVD over CD?

No not until every other game coming out required multiple CD's and we are no where near that point with DVD.

Why wait for most games to require multiple DVD when the technology of having bigger space on one disc exists now?

Cause we dont need it, the biggest games fit comfortably on one DVD.