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Everyone knows doom 3? yeah, great graphics at the time. and the creator of the graphics engine John Carmack, is a smart man. So why is it that he is brining his new game return to castle wolfenstien to only the 360? Heres what he says, he says that xbox360 is much easier to work with and despite common disbelief xbox360 actually has a better graphics proccessor than a ps3, the ps3 has a better cpu. (not that much better)

Heres some facts =D

The 360 3 cores are not SPEs. The PS3 really only has one core with 7 SPEs with 6 SPEs available for games. SPEs does not equal a full proper core. Now GPUs, the 360 has a more powerful GPU than the RSX due to amount of pipelines and shaders so more calculations can be done for graphics effects. The PS3 requires more calculations from Cell on the weaker GPU on trying to make up for weaker GPU.

Don't believe the hype of Sony with the power of PS3. The Cell and RSX are way overhype. If Sony claims the PS3 is 3X more powerful than 360 then the games are not showing it. If you look at most of multi-format games the 360 has the better versions. Even games like GTA4 and Haze for PS3 are not proper HD only 620p with Haze even lower. So don't believe Sony claims the PS3 can output proper 1080p games before the system was launched.

Go ahead and cry ps3 fanboys, all your days of (and i quote from an internet argument) LOLOLOLOL FAILBAWKS360 R STOOPID! IT HAS TERRIBLE GRAPHICS AND ITS GPU IS A NOOB BOX COMPARED TO MY PWNAGE PS3! are done

lol

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#2 TheBestUserEver
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John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.
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#3 -Jiggles-
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The PC is more powerful than both.

Also, the current graphics king, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, is exclusive to the PS3.

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#4 hongkingkong
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Yep, if PS3 and PC are taken out of the equation.
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#5 Hathesulacon
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The PC is more powerful than both.

Also, the current graphics king, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, is exclusive to the PS3.

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your right about half of that pc owns all consoles, which is why i choose not to make myself look bad by mentioning it lol. but uncharted? not the best, a LOT of games ive seen and played look better
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#6 Hathesulacon
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oh really? can u send me a link to where he said this( not trying to be rude)
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#7 bushidotu
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dyam is that all you fanboys care about nowadays is graphics?
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#8 TheBestUserEver
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

The PC is more powerful than both.

Also, the current graphics king, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, is exclusive to the PS3.

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your right about half of that pc owns all consoles, which is why i choose not to make myself look bad by mentioning it lol. but uncharted? not the best, a LOT of games ive seen and played look better



uhh.. I dont know where youve been but since its release Uncharted has been the console graphics king here on Gamespot. And only MGS4 was a serious threat sofar.
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#9 -Jiggles-
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

The PC is more powerful than both.

Also, the current graphics king, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, is exclusive to the PS3.

Continue?

Hathesulacon

your right about half of that pc owns all consoles, which is why i choose not to make myself look bad by mentioning it lol. but uncharted? not the best, a LOT of games ive seen and played look better

That is your opinion, but it is widely accepted as fact by many manticores here on SW that Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is the current console graphics king. Until we see the final graphical fidelity of some other games coming out, such as Gears of War 2 or Far Cry 2, Uncharted will firmly hold onto that title here.

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Everyone knows doom 3? yeah, great graphics at the time. and the creator of the graphics engine John Carmack, is a smart man. So why is it that he is brining his new game return to castle wolfenstien to only the 360? Heres what he says, he says that xbox360 is much easier to work with and despite common disbelief xbox360 actually has a better graphics proccessor than a ps3, the ps3 has a better cpu. (not that much better)

Heres some facts =D

The 360 3 cores are not SPEs. The PS3 really only has one core with 7 SPEs with 6 SPEs available for games. SPEs does not equal a full proper core. Now GPUs, the 360 has a more powerful GPU than the RSX due to amount of pipelines and shaders so more calculations can be done for graphics effects. The PS3 requires more calculations from Cell on the weaker GPU on trying to make up for weaker GPU.

Don't believe the hype of Sony with the power of PS3. The Cell and RSX are way overhype. If Sony claims the PS3 is 3X more powerful than 360 then the games are not showing it. If you look at most of multi-format games the 360 has the better versions. Even games like GTA4 and Haze for PS3 are not proper HD only 620p with Haze even lower. So don't believe Sony claims the PS3 can output proper 1080p games before the system was launched.

Go ahead and cry ps3 fanboys, all your days of (and i quote from an internet argument) LOLOLOLOL FAILBAWKS360 R STOOPID! IT HAS TERRIBLE GRAPHICS AND ITS GPU IS A NOOB BOX COMPARED TO MY PWNAGE PS3! are done

lol

Hathesulacon
the only reson is because game developers like to take short cuts, and the ps3 system requirers alot more time then the 360 to make games, because its processor is much more complex. EA and other companies that dont take time to make there games just through what ever they can, the ps3 is well capabale in bring 1080p but that is why i dont buy EA games!
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#11 TheBestUserEver
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oh really? can u send me a link to where he said this( not trying to be rude)Hathesulacon


http://ps3.qj.net/Carmack-Rage-to-look-worse-on-Xbox-360-than-PS3-PC-Mac-versions/pg/49/aid/122805

The 360 version looks worse then the PS3, PC and even the MAC version :lol:
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#12 ChrnoTrigger
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Uncharted is graphics king, so your argument is automatically moot, TC.
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John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.TheBestUserEver
Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.
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#14 StealthKnife
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also, i beleive that the ps3 exclusives, are far greater in graphics, and gameplay, socom, killzone, resitance, mgs4, drake,

hey im not a fanboy! i play 360 at my friends, and i know how it looks! halo looks like buff powerrangers!

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[QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.tktomo01
Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

Its not really a matter of opinion when it comes to actual technicalities of each game. Uncharted is outdoors/light/huge areas with massive draw distance and looks better than Gears with low lighting, grey colour, draw distance of a shoe box.

Uncharted is a world away in 1080p.

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[QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.tktomo01
Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

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[QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.tktomo01
Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

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#18 Hathesulacon
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mmm. im still thinking xbox360 is looking better lol, and even if it wasnt, none of your games can compete! lolz mgs4 overrated seriously? the characters look fine but the background textures are just like every other game.
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IMO Killzone 2 is the best looking console game.
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[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.-Jiggles-

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do
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#21 StealthKnife
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[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.-Jiggles-

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

i agree, drake has i better detail on environment, everything in gow looks shiny, they dont focus on details,
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#22 xbox360bitchezz
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XBOX 360 IS THE BEST

EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS SO CARTOONY OMG

I LUV MICROSOFT!

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#23 BioShockOwnz
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It's well known that the 360 GPU > the PS3 GPU, but the the PS3's CPU and GPU can work in tandum to outdo the 360 GPU.
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old news is old.
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#25 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.Hathesulacon

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do

I concur.

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#26 TheBestUserEver
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.Hathesulacon

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do



Uh no, and Gears 2 isnt even out yet it cant be console graphics king. And Uncharted >>> Gears Graphics. So it doesnt really matter what you say. On Gamespot Uncharted is the console graphics king :)
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&ay fanboy

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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.ToScA-

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do

I concur.

:o command and concur ?

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#29 StealthKnife
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jsut wait for killzone that looks better then both!
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Wow i can see a ps3 fanboy, the guy who said gears of war doesnt focus attention on detail? E P I C F A I L. Now dude come on, those are some of the best looking and most detailed characters ive seen. and guys the only reason that one game uhh drakes fortune, the only reason that its only on the ps3 is because nauty dog signed a contract that said they only work for ps3 (sony) so no one even start saying that xbox360 cant run it. The only game that i see that i probably will buy for my ps3 is killzone 2. But then again ill stop playing after a while because all fps get old after a while :p

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Wow i can see a ps3 fanboy, the guy who said gears of war doesnt focus attention on detail? E P I C F A I L. Now dude come on, those are some of the best looking and most detailed characters ive seen. and guys the only reason that one game uhh drakes fortune, the only reason that its only on the ps3 is because nauty dog signed a contract that said they only work for ps3 (sony) so no one even start saying that xbox360 cant run it. The only game that i see that i probably will buy for my ps3 is killzone 2. But then again ill stop playing after a while because all fps get old after a while :p

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ok, i went to far gears does have good detail, but all im saying is that killzone 2, and drake looks = intence

the graphics to me dont matter much as long as they are not like halo graphics(sorry to say, but i have seen that game and saying it again but, they look like buff PowerRangers!), i foucus on gamplay, socom online is going to be better then gears online.

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Wow i can see a ps3 fanboy, the guy who said gears of war doesnt focus attention on detail? E P I C F A I L. Now dude come on, those are some of the best looking and most detailed characters ive seen. and guys the only reason that one game uhh drakes fortune, the only reason that its only on the ps3 is because nauty dog signed a contract that said they only work for ps3 (sony) so no one even start saying that xbox360 cant run it. The only game that i see that i probably will buy for my ps3 is killzone 2. But then again ill stop playing after a while because all fps get old after a while :p

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1)Is the game in my sig exclusive to 360? yes. Follow the trail of logic back to your first point and i can't be a 360 faboy.

2)If you are going to say what looks good about Gears DO NOT MENTION CHARACTER MODELS, they suck. Marcus' neck looks like a tree trunk on a hobbit. Uncharted looks better by far. Its enitrely SP so no corners cut for online modes, the sheer ammount of colous used makes gears look even duller in comparisson, the lighting is better in Uncharted and the enemies look real. Gears has the edge on animations and smoothness of gameplay. But all in all when talking about graphics in general Uncharted takes the most biscuits.

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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.Hathesulacon

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do

True.

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Everyone knows doom 3? yeah, great graphics at the time. and the creator of the graphics engine John Carmack, is a smart man. So why is it that he is brining his new game return to castle wolfenstien to only the 360? Heres what he says, he says that xbox360 is much easier to work with and despite common disbelief xbox360 actually has a better graphics proccessor than a ps3, the ps3 has a better cpu. (not that much better)

Hathesulacon

Do you know anything about games? Wolfenstein is PC, Xbox 360, PS3 game, is only using the Doom 3 engine, and looks nearly identical on all 3 systems.

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who cares about the consoles? pc is where the photo realistic graphics are at.
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.Hathesulacon

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do

no they don't.

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#39 Hathesulacon
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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Everyone knows doom 3? yeah, great graphics at the time. and the creator of the graphics engine John Carmack, is a smart man. So why is it that he is brining his new game return to castle wolfenstien to only the 360? Heres what he says, he says that xbox360 is much easier to work with and despite common disbelief xbox360 actually has a better graphics proccessor than a ps3, the ps3 has a better cpu. (not that much better)

M337ING

Do you know anything about games? Wolfenstein is PC, Xbox 360, PS3 game, is only using the Doom 3 engine, and looks nearly identical on all 3 systems.

actually my friend doom 3 used tech engine 4 , the games doom 4 and wolfenstien are gonna use tech5
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I always find the comments by these developers to be very flawed. I remember reading another interview with another developer where they said they found it silly that people call developers lazy when a port comes out worse on the PS3 than the 360, and went on to blame the PS3's architecture and hardware capabilities. Point taken. The PS3's GPU isn't as powerful as the 360's GPU, and the 360's CPU isn't as powerful as the PS3's CPU, that's no secret, but when you look at games like Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4, these games show clear evidence that when a game is designed from the ground up for the PS3, it comes out looking beautiful (even moreso than 360 games).

Another words, these developers ARE lazy. They're porting 360 code to the PS3 instead of vice versa. Same case goes for Wii ports looking terrible. If there's games that look amazing on the systems, then it IS possible to match or surpass that graphical standard. Developers just have to put up or shut up.

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Crysis. nuff said
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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="tktomo01"][QUOTE="TheBestUserEver"]John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.Hitman533

Actually, Gears of War 1 and 2 both top Uncharted. Sorry.

No, they don't.

yeah, they do

no they don't.

they do
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#43 Hathesulacon
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lol i sparked a hot topic :D, look at the fanboys go!
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John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.TheBestUserEver

rage might look worse because of storage issues and mass effect is more impressive than uncharted .

What's harder to do : a small linear jungle level or skyway filled with dozens of enemies (some big as a human while others are as big as elephants ) . If an person saw the ferros level in mass effect you would faint.

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Carmack is so overrated,look at quake wars that uses his tech...it gets owned by the older Uncharted.
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Hands down, the best game I've seen so far has to be Uncharted.

It might be because I prefer the jungle theme of Uncharted as opposed to the themes of Mass Effect and Gears.

I have yet to see some clearer textures than Uncharted. I could be proven wrong.

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John Carmack said Rage would look better on the PS3. And the console graphics king is on the PS3: Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.TheBestUserEver

I find Uncharted too look rather poor compared to ME and Gears.

Opinion vs Opinion .. who will win.

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PC says hi
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PC says hiair_wolf_cubed

Hi, PC.

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#50 dream431ca
Member since 2003 • 10165 Posts
PS3 still beats 360 in graphics.