Xbox360 blu-ray add-on in 2009?

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#1 cyrus_77
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Will this just be a player (like the hd-dvd add-on) or they will make game discs in this format?

http://www.edge-online.com/news/report-xbox-360-readies-blu-ray

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#2 EmperorSupreme
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I don't believe it. MS said multiple times they were going to offer Blu-ray if HD-DVD flopped. I think their words were "we believe in choice and if the customers choice is Blu-ray we will support that." Then when HD-DVD flopped they went back on their statement. So anything MS says regarding Blu-ray I would take with a huge grain of salt.

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probaly just a player if it is released, i thought the xbots didnt want blu ray. who is gonna get soaked now?
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#4 Squall18
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who knows, I'm kinda out of high def dvds right now. blu ray is too expensive. The last high def dvd was Planet Earth I saw.

Blu ray just ain't worth $30. It's a nice feature to have, but thats about it.

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#5 che5ter666
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Will this just be a player (like the hd-dvd add-on) or they will make game discs in this format?

http://www.edge-online.com/news/report-xbox-360-readies-blu-ray

cyrus_77

Didn't these threads/speculation end like a year ago? This will never happen this gen.

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#6 ThisCurse
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I hope they dont do a add-on. Who wants an ugly little box sitting beside thier 360? I dont. If the rumors are true about the 360 redesign they shoud integrate Bluray and switch to slot-drive and ditch the disc-tray! Did you hear that, MS? Slot-drive!!
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#7 FragTycoon
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I'm pretty sure it wont be $100 unless it is really late next year. Time will tell.

Link to original source.

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#8 Deihmos
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This isn't going to happen this late in a cycle. If anyone with an Xbox 360 wants a blu-ray player they will go out and buy a standalone player or maybe a PS3.
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i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd quality
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i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualityjohnnyblazed88
But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games
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#11 Englandfc1966
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Probably in the next Xbox
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualityPOJO_MOFO
But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

Uh, the 360 upscales DVD's too.

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MS has been officially owned many times before and now this.
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#14 Khansoul
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The only reason to own a PS3 may be coming to XBOX 360! I really hope this is true I could put Blu-Ray in my Netflix cue =)
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#15 delta3074
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualityPOJO_MOFO
But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

the 360 upscales DVD's as well, not that i care i download all my movies on pc which has higher resolutions than both blu ray and hi def.
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#16 SpruceCaboose
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This would only be used for movies, and I cannot think of this as anything but a bad idea.
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualitydelta3074
But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

the 360 upscales DVD's as well, not that i care i download all my movies on pc which has higher resolutions than both blu ray and hi def.

While its true PC has higher resolution capacity, HD movies available for download are of much lower quality than a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc at this point.

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#18 cyrus_77
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If this is a sub-100 add-on player then this is a good deal. One of the strenghts of PS3 then is the fact its the cheapest blu-ray player in the market. However, I've been seeing far more cheaper blu-ray players now. I believe it goes down whether MS can utilize this (in time) to address some complaints with regards to its current disc format capacity.
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualitydelta3074
But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

the 360 upscales DVD's as well, not that i care i download all my movies on pc which has higher resolutions than both blu ray and hi def.

How is this possible?

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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualitySpruceCaboose

But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

the 360 upscales DVD's as well, not that i care i download all my movies on pc which has higher resolutions than both blu ray and hi def.

While its true PC has higher resolution capacity, HD movies available for download are of much lower quality than a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc at this point.

i didn't know that, i thought h.264 was really good quality, thanks for the heads up, but i can get a blu-ray player cheaper than the ps3 anyway i certainly won't be buying a blu-ray add on for the 360 either
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualityNagidar

But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

Uh, the 360 upscales DVD's too.

No, it doesn't...not nearly to the same degree anyways.

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#22 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualitydelta3074

But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

the 360 upscales DVD's as well, not that i care i download all my movies on pc which has higher resolutions than both blu ray and hi def.

While its true PC has higher resolution capacity, HD movies available for download are of much lower quality than a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc at this point.

i didn't know that, i thought h.264 was really good quality, thanks for the heads up, but i can get a blu-ray player cheaper than the ps3 anyway i certainly won't be buying a blu-ray add on for the 360 either

No way. Think of it like this.

HDDVD needed 15Gigs, Blu-Ray needed at least $25gigs...how could some little 1gig or less downloads LOOK AS GOOD?

Don't fall for such simple marketing tactics, especially if you have the HD screen.

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i doubt it's true, and even if it is.... not interested
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#24 iam2green
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meh, a blueray coming to 360. i don't care about it. i still buy dvds....
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Will this just be a player (like the hd-dvd add-on) or they will make game discs in this format?

http://www.edge-online.com/news/report-xbox-360-readies-blu-ray

cyrus_77

If you're a business and you want to make money, what type of game are you going to make when only like 1% of your install base can potentially play it? How much money would you invest in this game? What do you think the quality of this game would be?

Anyways, if the price is really gonna be $150-200... I think thats puts a massive hurt on Sony gaming but is a major huge boost to Sony electronics.

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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualitySolidTy

But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

Uh, the 360 upscales DVD's too.

No, it doesn't...not nearly to the same degree anyways.

Really? Got a link to the differences? Because I've watched movies on both my 360 and PS3 and they both look the same.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]No, it doesn't...not nearly to the same degree anyways.

Nagidar

Really? Got a link to the differences? Because I've watched movies on both my 360 and PS3 and they both look the same.

From my understanding, the 360 will not upscale DVDs over any connections other than HDMI or VGA, but over either of those two connections, it upscales almost identically to the PS3 or any other upscaling DVD player.

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#28 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]No, it doesn't...not nearly to the same degree anyways.

SpruceCaboose

Really? Got a link to the differences? Because I've watched movies on both my 360 and PS3 and they both look the same.

From my understanding, the 360 will not upscale DVDs over any connections other than HDMI or VGA, but over either of those two connections, it upscales almost identically to the PS3 or any other upscaling DVD player.

Yes, I know, I just wanted to see if he could dig up some proof of his claim.

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What would be the point a year before they release a new console.
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#30 st1ka
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What would be the point a year before they release a new console.wooooode

lol? microsoft has said time and time again no new console until at least 2011-2012

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#31 cyrus_77
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[QUOTE="cyrus_77"]

Will this just be a player (like the hd-dvd add-on) or they will make game discs in this format?

http://www.edge-online.com/news/report-xbox-360-readies-blu-ray

Senor_Kami

If you're a business and you want to make money, what type of game are you going to make when only like 1% of your install base can potentially play it? How much money would you invest in this game? What do you think the quality of this game would be?

Anyways, if the price is really gonna be $150-200... I think thats puts a massive hurt on Sony gaming but is a major huge boost to Sony electronics.

Excellent point. So assuming its true and it will be just an add-on player it will be a win-win situation for both in theory. MS will get a market share of blu-ray movie adopters and Sony will rack royalty bucks. But the real question is will be the royalty payments outweigh their gaming division's losses? I doubt it. And so in the end, MS gains more from this.

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#32 Martin_G_N
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Why pay a couple of hundred bucks for a low quality BD player?? The HD-DVD player for the X360 was the worst player out there.And the BD player on the X360 won't be any better, mainly because you'll only get Dolby Digital and DTS sound formats, but also the picture quality is better on a standalone BD player or even the PS3. Buy a standalone player, by then it will be a lot cheaper for a good BD player.
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#33 BudsMcGreen
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I don't believe it. MS said multiple times they were going to offer Blu-ray if HD-DVD flopped. I think their words were "we believe in choice and if the customers choice is Blu-ray we will support that." Then when HD-DVD flopped they went back on their statement. So anything MS says regarding Blu-ray I would take with a huge grain of salt.

EmperorSupreme

Actually it is true. There is an article on 1up.com today that confirms 'Toshiba and Samsung contracted to make external Blu-Ray drive for 360'. There is probably the same article on Gamespot too.

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I don't even buy DVDs anymore.
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#35 Senor_Kami
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No way. Think of it like this.

HDDVD needed 15Gigs, Blu-Ray needed at least $25gigs...how could some little 1gig or less downloads LOOK AS GOOD?

Don't fall for such simple marketing tactics, especially if you have the HD screen.

SolidTy

You could pack a great looking picture onto a DL DVD. DVDs were taking up whole DL DVDs but you certainly don't need 8 gb to hold sd content. You can go out and DL a 720p film that looks tons better and isn't even 5gb. A download won't look as good as a BD or HD-DVD, but its not like it looks bad. It'd look better than upscaled DVD and over the air HD and most people are happy with that.

5-8gb is more than enough to store a 720p image with no artifacts or noticeable blocks.

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thats great for ms
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]i wouldnt buy it, im still happy with dvd qualitydelta3074

But with the PS3 you can upconvert :) I will be suprised if MS DOESNT come out with a BR player soon, but it will be the same as the HD-DVD, as player only, no games

the 360 upscales DVD's as well, not that i care i download all my movies on pc which has higher resolutions than both blu ray and hi def.

While its true PC has higher resolution capacity, HD movies available for download are of much lower quality than a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc at this point.

i didn't know that, i thought h.264 was really good quality, thanks for the heads up, but i can get a blu-ray player cheaper than the ps3 anyway i certainly won't be buying a blu-ray add on for the 360 either

A blu ray player cheeper then the ps3 Ha where do you live buddy