XboxOne: Would you rather have it more powerful than PS4 ?

I'm curious to see the majority's preference on what is the best option, if given a choice;

1- Having XboxOne GPU more powerful than PS4 but at the cost of loosing Kinect 2.0 (and staying at $500 price point).

2- Keeping it the way it is now. Kinect 2.0 is a promising tech and more appealing than just raw GPU power.

devs have already confirmed that ps4 is underpowered compared to the Microsoft Xbox One. poor sony is looking to fail yet another generation. :(

I'd rather keep Kinect.

I really don't know why people want to spend 8 more years gaming solely with a dual-analog control. Yah, that's fun with how many limitations there are in place. At least the Kinect in addition to a controller can help provide something more to gaming. Having a barely noticable jump in graphical fidelity does not.

devs have already confirmed that ps4 is underpowered compared to the Microsoft Xbox One. poor sony is looking to fail yet another generation. :(

KarateeeChop

Id rather they spent the billions they make on cloud technology. 

Which they are doing. 

So thanks microsoft. 

I'd rather keep Kinect.

I really don't know why people want to spend 8 more years gaming solely with a dual-analog control. Yah, that's fun with how many limitations there are in place. At least the Kinect in addition to a controller can help provide something more to gaming. Having a barely noticable jump in graphical fidelity does not.

Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

I'd rather keep Kinect.

I really don't know why people want to spend 8 more years gaming solely with a dual-analog control. Yah, that's fun with how many limitations there are in place. At least the Kinect in addition to a controller can help provide something more to gaming. Having a barely noticable jump in graphical fidelity does not.

cainetao11

What's wrong with having it as an add-on instead of bundled? That way everyone gets to enjoy better graphics (which is what gamers want), and for families with kids, they too get to enjoy Kinect as well, but as an add-on.

How about it stays the same specs wise but they lose the Kinect and release for the same price as the PS4? doll94

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

I'd rather keep Kinect.

I really don't know why people want to spend 8 more years gaming solely with a dual-analog control. Yah, that's fun with how many limitations there are in place. At least the Kinect in addition to a controller can help provide something more to gaming. Having a barely noticable jump in graphical fidelity does not.

Mystery_Writer

What's wrong with having it as an add-on instead of bundled? That way everyone gets to enjoy better graphics (which is what gamers want), and for families with kids, they too get to enjoy Kinect as well, but as an add-on.

If it's not bundled then it'll simply be relegated to "gimmick add-on" status like it was last gen, and only party games will be made for it because that's the only thing people will buy it for.

If 100% of Xbox One users have a Kinect sensor then more devs will be encouraged to implement it in their games for additional touches. 

Kinect is fine as long as gameplay doesn't depend on it.  Voice commands are actually cool.

I also have a bias toward PC gaming so any incremental hardware bump is irrelevant to SLI or CrossFire setups.  I'd rather MS either adopt the PC model and do away with consoles all together or stay true to the console form and do something unique if I have to own their proprietary system to play their games.

That is a difficult question as it depends how more powerful we are talking.

That said having the kinect as an add on relegates it to a hands free remote and destined for shovelware or integration as an after thought similar to the current kinect. So im glad its being included with every console this time around.

devs have already confirmed that ps4 is underpowered compared to the Microsoft Xbox One. poor sony is looking to fail yet another generation. :(

KarateeeChop

How about it stays the same specs wise but they lose the Kinect and release for the same price as the PS4? doll94

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"] Agreed. As I posted before, I am open to new things in gaming, own the first Kinect and have enjoyed it. For some, its cool to not like it now. Others haven't been open to it, and others haven't seen or played anything that they could/have enjoyed. I have enjoyed it, and look forward to what else can be done with it. The graphics in the games are fine, Imo. They look better than 360/ps3 and will get better as gen moves on. Ly_the_Fairy

What's wrong with having it as an add-on instead of bundled? That way everyone gets to enjoy better graphics (which is what gamers want), and for families with kids, they too get to enjoy Kinect as well, but as an add-on.

If it's not bundled then it'll simply be relegated to "gimmick add-on" status like it was last gen, and only party games will be made for it because that's the only thing people will buy it for.

If 100% of Xbox One users have a Kinect sensor then more devs will be encouraged to implement it in their games for additional touches. 

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

I'd rather keep Kinect.

I really don't know why people want to spend 8 more years gaming solely with a dual-analog control. Yah, that's fun with how many limitations there are in place. At least the Kinect in addition to a controller can help provide something more to gaming. Having a barely noticable jump in graphical fidelity does not.

Mystery_Writer

What's wrong with having it as an add-on instead of bundled? That way everyone gets to enjoy better graphics (which is what gamers want), and for families with kids, they too get to enjoy Kinect as well, but as an add-on.

[QUOTE="doll94"]How about it stays the same specs wise but they lose the Kinect and release for the same price as the PS4? silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="doll94"]How about it stays the same specs wise but they lose the Kinect and release for the same price as the PS4? ShaineTheNerd

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Then why would anyone buy it instead of a ps4? X1 is optimized for ads when ps4 is optimized for games with better ram and more powerful gpu, no brainer to me...

silversix_

devs have already confirmed that ps4 is underpowered compared to the Microsoft Xbox One. poor sony is looking to fail yet another generation. :(

KarateeeChop

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"] Like the 20 FPS DriveClub? Optimized for sures. ShaineTheNerd

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

What's wrong with having it as an add-on instead of bundled? That way everyone gets to enjoy better graphics (which is what gamers want), and for families with kids, they too get to enjoy Kinect as well, but as an add-on.

stizzal13

If it's not bundled then it'll simply be relegated to "gimmick add-on" status like it was last gen, and only party games will be made for it because that's the only thing people will buy it for.

If 100% of Xbox One users have a Kinect sensor then more devs will be encouraged to implement it in their games for additional touches. 

Would I want the Xbox One to be more powerful than the PS4? Sure, that would be nice. However, what I would really want is if the Xbox One were the weaker console spec-wise, yet priced accordingly. Paying $100 more for what amounts to weaker hardware is a hard pill to swallow. 

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="silversix_"]35%, wake da fk up.

silversix_

wouldnt care. i just dont like xb1 policies

I don't buy consoles for power... I buy them for exclusives. donalbane

I agree. I'd like it to be just as powerful as the PS4 (if not more) and at the same price. Kinect should be sold separately as well. They really need 2 SKU's. One with Kinect and one without. blackace

http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-and-xbox-one-gpu-compared-startling-difference-between-the-two/

[QUOTE="donalbane"]I don't buy consoles for power... I buy them for exclusives. ShaineTheNerd

[QUOTE="blackace"] I agree. I'd like it to be just as powerful as the PS4 (if not more) and at the same price. Kinect should be sold separately as well. They really need 2 SKU's. One with Kinect and one without. metal_zombie

http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-and-xbox-one-gpu-compared-startling-difference-between-the-two/

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[QUOTE="blackace"] I agree. I'd like it to be just as powerful as the PS4 (if not more) and at the same price. Kinect should be sold separately as well. They really need 2 SKU's. One with Kinect and one without. rjdofu

http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-and-xbox-one-gpu-compared-startling-difference-between-the-two/

Comparing numbers or launch title games is really silly. I rather look at the studios who will be making the games for consoles years and years after its come out.

Sony has a far stronger first-party studio portfolio right now. MS could have some strong new studioes/IPs, but i'm afraid that judging by MS' history, they may just as well close down projects or studios due to low or even moderate sales success. It seems like MS only really supports game studios or IPs that are big performers for them, whereas some studios may need time to grow. Some of the best 1st party Sony studios had humble beginnings with games that weren't mega-blockbusters. 

keep it the way it is. why would i want the same thing 2 gens in a row?

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I don't buy consoles for power... I buy them for exclusives. donalbane

It should at least make me feel that i'm the target audience. With all the TV, NFL, american multimedia shit as well as a line up full of shooters and shallow games, no amount of power would make me buy the console. Not to mention my room is too small for Kinect anyway, so it's an extra $150 of useless scraps.rjdofu

[QUOTE="blackace"] But have you seen TITANFALL?

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

What's wrong with having it as an add-on instead of bundled? That way everyone gets to enjoy better graphics (which is what gamers want), and for families with kids, they too get to enjoy Kinect as well, but as an add-on.

cainetao11

So do you / don't you want it to have Kinect as add-on?

Also, do you / don't you want it to be more powerful at the same $500 price point minus Kinect?

Well if I were designing it, I'd deff. pull a "Sega Saturn" and give it two processors and make Kinect optional.

I'd keep the price down too with a subscription model and no optical drive. (would be a download only system)