Yes PSN is free, thats why some people use matches and others pay for a lighter

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#1 Phenom-II
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Xbox Live is honestly a better service then PSN. Yes PSN is free, but thats why some people use matches and others pay for a lighter. When I played COD MW2 on my brothers PSN i was a bit surprised at the way longer wait times and more laggy gameplay on PSN. MS charges for Xbox Live, but some of that money goes to pay for more servers which makes gameplay better online.. I loved the PS2 by the way. Im not a blind kind of fanboy. I think PS2 sort of had the perfect storm.. they launched 1.5 yrs before the underpowered Gamecube and nearly 2yrs before M$'s first console endeavor XB1 ..

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#2 dream431ca
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What's wrong with matches??

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#3 SilverChimera
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So, who is going to take this seriously?
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Xbox Live is honestly a better service then PSN. Yes PSN is free, but thats why some people use matches and others pay for a lighter. When I played COD MW2 on my brothers PSN i was a bit surprised at the way longer wait times and more laggy gameplay on PSN.MS charges for Xbox Live, but some of that money goes to pay for more servers which makes gameplay better online.. I loved the PS2 by the way. Im not a blind kind of fanboy. I think PS2 sort of had the perfect storm.. they launched 1.5 yrs before the underpowered Gamecube and nearly 2yrs before M$'s first console endeavor XB1 ..

Phenom-II

Some as in a few cents? While the rest is pocketed by M$.

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#5 Some-Mist
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you still have to pay for matches. your analogy would make more sense if you mentioned that you got the matches for free but then again, it still wouldn't make too much sense. Both services are very easy to use.

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#6 soulitane
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You say that the money goes towards servers that are run from someone consoles? Since that game runs off p2p it makes no difference what console is playing the connection is Dependant on your connection. I would also like to add that more ps3 games have dedicated servers that sony actually have to pay for (unless third party game).
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I doubt its PSN that makes the games laggy in MW2. I blame the game itself.

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#8 Mystic-G
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But it's free.

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#9 Phenom-II
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So, who is going to take this seriously? SilverChimera
my guess would be people that live in reality and not blinded by there own fanboyism. times have changed and I wouldnt be suprised if the ps3 is the last playstation console ever released. They just cant keep up with msft in the spending money dept. the people that have played the 360 and live know it is the best.
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bottom line...matches get the job done.. /thread
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#12 Phenom-II
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you still have to pay for matches. your analogy would make more sense if you mentioned that you got the matches for free but then again, it still wouldn't make too much sense. Both services are very easy to use.

Some-Mist
dont know where u live but you can go in any gas station and ask for matches and they give em for free, talking about the little packs
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#13 EdenProxy
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]So, who is going to take this seriously? Phenom-II
my guess would be people that live in reality and not blinded by there own fanboyism. times have changed and I wouldnt be suprised if the ps3 is the last playstation console ever released. They just cant keep up with msft in the spending money dept. the people that have played the 360 and live know it is the best.

You first sentence is perfectly describing your second.
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#14 Riverwolf007
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ugh tbh i would rather see a xbl bashing thread than a xbl justification thread.

i have come to terms with what a waste of money it is just like how i waste money on the water filters i buy for my fridgeand the extra $300 or$400 it costs me to run my air conditioning 4 months a year.

just accept that other people have different priorities and let it be.

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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]So, who is going to take this seriously? Phenom-II
my guess would be people that live in reality and not blinded by there own fanboyism. times have changed and I wouldnt be suprised if the ps3 is the last playstation console ever released. They just cant keep up with msft in the spending money dept. the people that have played the 360 and live know it is the best.

:lol:...That's so sad.

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they give out free lighters too you know
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#17 dotWithShoes
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Moment you said lag was the moment I knew you were lieing. There is no lag on psn in mw2.

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You know, there's gonna be lag in pretty much EVERY online game. Its just inherent to online gaming.; Though MW2 is gonna be the same lag on Ps3 or 360 depending on the host.
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]So, who is going to take this seriously? Phenom-II
my guess would be people that live in reality and not blinded by there own fanboyism. times have changed and I wouldnt be suprised if the ps3 is the last playstation console ever released. They just cant keep up with msft in the spending money dept. the people that have played the 360 and live know it is the best.

how ironic :]

and as for the OP, how much lag = more lag? what was the difference in ping/ms?

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#19 alextherussian
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Doesnt a box of matches cost about the same as one of those dollar store lighters? Also being that I am not a big smoker I feel your metaphor does not cover the more liquor inclined audience. On topic though I have no idea what you are talking about, I have had the exact same experience playing MW2 on xbox as I have had on the PS.
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#20 lamprey263
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there's some things you can't smoke with matches... that I can't say... but you can totally smoke salvia with a lighter, even though that's just a horrible idea in contrast to what I want to say but can't it's completely legal and you can smoke as much as you want as long as you're 18... wait, why are we talking about this? anyhow, I don't mind paying for XBL, though I see the appeal in PSN, basically it comes down to how I like playing all my multiplatform games on XBL, I like the service better, just my preference, I get more mileage out of it playing more than just exclusives on it, but if I leaned more on the PS3 for multiplatforms I'd probably feel differently about XBL, I am glad that PSN is free though because I'm willing to pay for XBL but am less willing to pay for another service I don't use as much, and I still like playing some PS3 games online from time to time so it all works out for me
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Live is P2P (as has been pointed out), so lag comes from host/distance, just like PSN.. STEAM is free (and better). You're paying for something you already paid for, your internet connection AND game content.
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#22 millerlight89
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When I had both consoles I liked each service. I never really found a justification for paying for Live and not PSN though. By the way, what is wrong with matches. They give off a great smell when first struck. Better than that crappy ass butane smell.
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#23 _SWAG_
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psn is better because its free

/thread

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#24 shinrabanshou
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There really should be some sort of probationary period before thread making is allowed.

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Live is P2P (as has been pointed out), so lag comes from host/distance, just like PSN.. STEAM is free (and better). You're paying for something you already paid for, your internet connection AND game content.Deathtransit
dude i have steam, and its cool and all but they ripped off achievments from xbox and so did playstation with the trophies. the 360 really was way ahead of its time, and sadly does not get the credit it deserves
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#26 gamecubepad
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2-3 years ago you might have a point, but now I'd rather have the choice of free matches or a paid lighter, like PSN offers.

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#27 finalfantasy94
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Lag is situation base nothing to do with PSN or xbl. Since iv had rare lag matches on both serevices which makes this topic null and void.

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#28 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Live is P2P (as has been pointed out), so lag comes from host/distance, just like PSN.. STEAM is free (and better). You're paying for something you already paid for, your internet connection AND game content.Phenom-II
dude i have steam, and its cool and all but they ripped off achievments from xbox and so did playstation with the trophies. the 360 really was way ahead of its time, and sadly does not get the credit it deserves

That's nice. Steam is still better and so is PSN because it's free.
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#29 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Yes because frontend services really determine the latency of a p2p online match :roll:
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#30 Messiahbolical-
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I played COD MW2 on my brothers PSN i was a bit surprised at the way longer wait times and more laggy gameplay on PSN.

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I stopped reading there. You DO realize that MW2 on PSN and XBL are nearly identical, right? It's called P2P servers. The amount of lag you get depends on who's hosting the match on BOTH consoles. Might want to research this before you go and make fail threads about it.
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Matches don't leave a Kerosene taste on your cigar.

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#32 tmntPunchout
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2-3 years ago you might have a point, but now I'd rather have the choice of free matches or a paid lighter, like PSN offers.

gamecubepad

wouldnt it be more comparable tp using a car lighter since its free

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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Live is P2P (as has been pointed out), so lag comes from host/distance, just like PSN.. STEAM is free (and better). You're paying for something you already paid for, your internet connection AND game content.Phenom-II
dude i have steam, and its cool and all but they ripped off achievments from xbox and so did playstation with the trophies. the 360 really was way ahead of its time, and sadly does not get the credit it deserves

Yes, so far ahead of its time in fact that it was released to market with inherent hardware failures. :P

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#34 Messiahbolical-
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Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.
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Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.Messiahbolical-
Looks like he just copied and pasted it from a program that tells you what you have in your computer. In other words, he didn't know.
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[QUOTE="Phenom-II"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]So, who is going to take this seriously? Some-Mist

my guess would be people that live in reality and not blinded by there own fanboyism. times have changed and I wouldnt be suprised if the ps3 is the last playstation console ever released. They just cant keep up with msft in the spending money dept. the people that have played the 360 and live know it is the best.

how ironic :]

and as for the OP, how much lag = more lag? what was the difference in ping/ms?

he must be in the twilight zone.... eerie music plays.

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Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.Messiahbolical-
nope just proud of my new pc is all, its from my dxdiag- i love my pc it a b.a.m.f. it can have my thinkorswim stock account open all my windows, and play civ 5 on max settings with full 1080p and 4X AA, looks damn good on my 55" vizio 240 hz led
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.millerlight89
Looks like he just copied and pasted it from a program that tells you what you have in your computer. In other words, he didn't know.

I knew , I mean i did just pay $949 for it with civ 5...geez the haters are out tonight
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Cigars always taste better when lit with a match.

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.Phenom-II
nope just proud of my new pc is all, its from my dxdiag- i love my pc it a b.a.m.f. it can have my thinkorswim stock account open all my windows, and play civ 5 on max settings with full 1080p and 4X AA, looks damn good on my 55" vizio 240 hz led

Civ 5 is not what I would call "demanding." What GPU do you have?
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]Live is P2P (as has been pointed out), so lag comes from host/distance, just like PSN.. STEAM is free (and better). You're paying for something you already paid for, your internet connection AND game content.Phenom-II
dude i have steam, and its cool and all but they ripped off achievments from xbox and so did playstation with the trophies. the 360 really was way ahead of its time, and sadly does not get the credit it deserves

Yay trophies, what a revolution. At least Sony actually make something important:games.
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.millerlight89
Looks like he just copied and pasted it from a program that tells you what you have in your computer. In other words, he didn't know.

I hope not. I don't understand why anyone thinks random people on the internet care about their PC's specs... every time I see those I just want to say "Congratulations"... oh wait, you have specs in your sig too. Congratulations.
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wouldnt it be more comparable tp using a car lighter since its free

tmntPunchout

Nah, matches work fine. Anybody who smokes knows about bumming free matches from the gas station or quik-e mart when you don't have a lighter.

Wood matches can actually be superior to lighters if, for instance, you're an arsonist who needs to ignite fuel from a distance.

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.Phenom-II
nope just proud of my new pc is all, its from my dxdiag- i love my pc it a b.a.m.f. it can have my thinkorswim stock account open all my windows, and play civ 5 on max settings with full 1080p and 4X AA, looks damn good on my 55" vizio 240 hz led

When one shows off their specs they include the stuff like: gfx, processor, Ram, mobo, psu, monitor, case, cooling, hard drive. They don't however show off their directX verison and DX Setup Parameters: Not found and noone realy cares about your DPI.

The way you are showing off your rig is just signifying you dont actually know much about it.

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55" vizio 240 hz ledPhenom-II
Vizio LCD... Why?

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.Messiahbolical-
Looks like he just copied and pasted it from a program that tells you what you have in your computer. In other words, he didn't know.

I hope not. I don't understand why anyone thinks random people on the internet care about their PC's specs... every time I see those I just want to say "Congratulations"... oh wait, you have specs in your sig too. Congratulations.

It is not for console players. I just like sharing them with my PC friends, because you know, they actually understand what they are.
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#47 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.Phenom-II
Looks like he just copied and pasted it from a program that tells you what you have in your computer. In other words, he didn't know.

I knew , I mean i did just pay $949 for it with civ 5...geez the haters are out tonight

Not a hater. Sorry I came off like one though. You have a nice PC, well I don't know what you GPU is though. Everything else is solid.
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[QUOTE="Phenom-II"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and OP I still want to know why you put your DPI settings, RAM, and DirectX version on your sig. Is it some form of internet showing off or something? I still don't get it.millerlight89
nope just proud of my new pc is all, its from my dxdiag- i love my pc it a b.a.m.f. it can have my thinkorswim stock account open all my windows, and play civ 5 on max settings with full 1080p and 4X AA, looks damn good on my 55" vizio 240 hz led

Civ 5 is not what I would call "demanding." What GPU do you have?

the heck it aint, you should of seen the support forum for it on 2k forums....people was pissed to say the least!...they was all like how come my pc cant run this game, my graphics card is ati 5400 hd, i will be upgrading it soon but it does the job for now, it is what came with the pc
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if you're out in the Wilderness, Would you go and find some Flint and Stone or rub some Sticks together to get a Fire for FREE, or Hope that you had Bought a Lighter before and Hope that the Lighter still has some fuel.