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#1 MikeE21286
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http://www.gameguru.in/features/2007/01/jeff-gerstmann-a-victim-of-corporate-cannibalism/

Sony's very own Uncharted and Microsoft's Mass Effect, both games scored in the 8-8.5 range on Gamespot, whereas equally big sites like IGN and 1UP gave greater scores than Gamespot (Mass Effect: 1UP - 9.0, IGN-9.4, Uncharted:1UP 8.5, IGN- 9.0). Metacritic which is also owned by CNET has a metascore of 92 for Mass Effect and 88 for Uncharted. It would be ridiculous to turn a blind eye to such factors which could have played a HUGE role in Jeff's firing.

I read this really interesting story on VGM a couple of months ago. IGN had pre-decided the score on Prey because they wanted an exclusive review and Doug Perry had negotiated a deal with Marci Ditter [2K Games PR manager]. The score would range between 8-9, even before the reviewer had played the game but after David Gornoski protested and the deal was finally dropped, although the game scored a 9 on IGN. The article also says that 2K went shopping to 1UP for the same score but they had obviously refused

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#2 Mad_Rhetoric
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exactly....cows just need to open their eyes
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#3 Nike_Air
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exactly ..... lemmings just need to open their eyes

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#4 dlind70
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exactly...hermits just need to open their eyes
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#5 HarlockJC
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exactly...hedgehogs just need to open their eyes
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#6 Haseokicksass
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exaclty........sheep just need to open there eyes
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#7 gromit007
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You mean politics are a part of most major gaming sites????

No effing way!!!!!!!!

:roll:

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#8 ho0p3r4life42
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exactly...
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#9 Sir-Marwin105
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You mean politics are a part of most major gaming sites????

No effing way!!!!!!!!

:roll:

gromit007
You ruined it. :(
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#10 goblaa
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Exactly...the French need to open their eyes.
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#11 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

You mean politics are a part of most major gaming sites????

No effing way!!!!!!!!

:roll:

Sir-Marwin105

You ruined it. :(

exactly...Worms just need to open their eyes

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#12 tbone29
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exactly....antonio just needs to open his eyes.
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#13 gromit007
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

You mean politics are a part of most major gaming sites????

No effing way!!!!!!!!

:roll:

Sir-Marwin105

You ruined it. :(

My bad. I was writing my post before anyone poted, but got sidetracked briefly...:oops:

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#14 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="gromit007"]

You mean politics are a part of most major gaming sites????

No effing way!!!!!!!!

:roll:

HarlockJC

You ruined it. :(

exactly...Worms just need to open their eyes

Exactly....BearManPigs need to open their eyes

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#16 Panzer_Zwei
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All I know is that IGN gave one my favourite games of last gen a 3, a 3!!1

They fell from grace to me after that.

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#17 Mad_Rhetoric
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All I know is that IGN gave one my favourite games of last gen a 3, a 3!!1

They fell from grace to me after that.

Panzer_Zwei
what game?
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#18 MikeE21286
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All I know is that IGN gave one my favourite games of last gen a 3, a 3!!1

They fell from grace to me after that.

Panzer_Zwei

Yeah, that's pretty f-in bad....was that God Hand?

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#19 goblaa
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exactly....antonio just needs to open his eyes.tbone29

Sexy people don't need to. They're better than us.

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#20 Sir-Marwin105
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All I know is that IGN gave one my favourite games of last gen a 3, a 3!!1

They fell from grace to me after that.

Panzer_Zwei
God Hand?
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#21 naval
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exactly everyone needs to open their eyes
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#22 WeAreToast
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http://www.gameguru.in/features/2007/01/jeff-gerstmann-a-victim-of-corporate-cannibalism/

Sony's very own Uncharted and Microsoft's Mass Effect, both games scored in the 8-8.5 range on Gamespot, whereas equally big sites like IGN and 1UP gave greater scores than Gamespot (Mass Effect: 1UP - 9.0, IGN-9.4, Uncharted:1UP 8.5, IGN- 9.0). Metacritic which is also owned by CNET has a metascore of 92 for Mass Effect and 88 for Uncharted. It would be ridiculous to turn a blind eye to such factors which could have played a HUGE role in Jeff's firing.

MikeE21286

*Scratches head.*

Jeff didn't review either of those games.

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#23 Panzer_Zwei
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Yes God Hand. And that was just unexcusable.

There was no way in hell that game deserved anywhere that abyssmal score. We're not talkng about a . numbers here.

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#24 Sir-Marwin105
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Yes God Hand. And that was just unexcusable.

There was no way in hell that game deserved anywhere that abyssmal score. We're not talkng about a . numbers here.

Panzer_Zwei
At least they liked Clover's other, more superior games. ;)
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#25 ImError88
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Exactly....we open our eyes......when we wake up.
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#26 Panzer_Zwei
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Yes God Hand. And that was just unexcusable.

There was no way in hell that game deserved anywhere that abyssmal score. We're not talkng about a . numbers here.

Sir-Marwin105

At least they liked Clover's other, more superior games. ;)

For me that was Clover's best game ever.

The game was just beautiful in hard.

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#27 AnFangs_Endes
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exactly ... Manticores just need to open their eyes
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#28 fileman3
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exactly david hasselhoff needs to open his eyes
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#29 TheJuiceyBar
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Exactly....Dream Vision needs to open his buttcheeks.
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#30 fileman3
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exactly christopher coloumbus needs to open his eyes
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#31 tman93
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exactly.... Hockey Players just need to open their eyes.

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#32 tbone29
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Exactly....Dream Vision needs to open his buttcheeks.TheJuiceyBar

Woah... everyone needs to shield their eyes :?

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#33 Sk8nNotH8n
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

You mean politics are a part of most major gaming sites????

No effing way!!!!!!!!

:roll:

antifanboyftw

you idiot. your supposed to say "C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!" or at least keep up the flow.

:lol:

Exactly... teh corupt govornorment runz by teh Devilzorz George W Bushiez needs to open teh eyez.

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#34 JiveT
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Yes God Hand. And that was just unexcusable.

There was no way in hell that game deserved anywhere that abyssmal score. We're not talkng about a . numbers here.

Panzer_Zwei

At least they liked Clover's other, more superior games. ;)

For me that was Clover's best game ever.

The game was just beautiful in hard.

I beat it but what made it so much better on HARD? I can't remember if I ever played it on that difficulty but I am guessing probably not. It was a lot of fun. Worst clipping isues ever though and there was a kind of clunkiness to everything even though the customization was great and the fights were satisfying.

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#36 teufelherz
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[QUOTE="tbone29"]exactly....antonio just needs to open his eyes.goblaa

Sexy people don't need to. They're better than us.

Exactly... wait... what? Antonio sexy? Jeff fired for games he didn't review? Mass Effect flopped? THIS is the waythe world ends! you need to open your eyes!

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#37 Lazy_not_fat
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exactly...Chuck Norris just needs to roundhouse your eyes.
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#38 WeAreToast
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exactly...Chuck Norris just needs to roundhouse your eyes.Lazy_not_fat

Nice one.

Exactly... Jessica Alba just needs to open my eyes.

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#39 Panzer_Zwei
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Yes God Hand. And that was just unexcusable.

There was no way in hell that game deserved anywhere that abyssmal score. We're not talkng about a . numbers here.

JiveT

At least they liked Clover's other, more superior games. ;)

For me that was Clover's best game ever.

The game was just beautiful in hard.

I beat it but what made it so much better on HARD? I can't remember if I ever played it on that difficulty but I am guessing probably not. It was a lot of fun. Worst clipping isues ever though and there was a kind of clunkiness to everything even though the customization was great and the fights were satisfying.

You had to work your arse into every single fight. The enemies dodged and attacked and counter-attacked amazingly in hard making every fight exciting and a challenge to your skill, plus they looked amazing exchanging so many blows before you could open your opponents defenses.

The fight with Devil Hand in was simply amazing in hard. I haven't had an US PS2 for quite some time by now (it busted) but I don't remember any serious clipping issues, the game looked downright stylish to me.

The only real issue was the camara, you could only see what's infront of you, and lots of enemies attacked you from long range.

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#40 dropperbr
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exactly I needs to close my eyes..

12:40PM ZzZZzzz

GN!

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#41 Norg
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I guess we can only trust Indie sites now
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#42 -Renegade
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http://www.gameguru.in/features/2007/01/jeff-gerstmann-a-victim-of-corporate-cannibalism/

Sony's very own Uncharted and Microsoft's Mass Effect, both games scored in the 8-8.5 range on Gamespot, whereas equally big sites like IGN and 1UP gave greater scores than Gamespot (Mass Effect: 1UP - 9.0, IGN-9.4, Uncharted:1UP 8.5, IGN- 9.0). Metacritic which is also owned by CNET has a metascore of 92 for Mass Effect and 88 for Uncharted. It would be ridiculous to turn a blind eye to such factors which could have played a HUGE role in Jeff's firing.

I read this really interesting story on VGM a couple of months ago. IGN had pre-decided the score on Prey because they wanted an exclusive review and Doug Perry had negotiated a deal with Marci Ditter [2K Games PR manager]. The score would range between 8-9, even before the reviewer had played the game but after David Gornoski protested and the deal was finally dropped, although the game scored a 9 on IGN. The article also says that 2K went shopping to 1UP for the same score but they had obviously refused

MikeE21286

I don't understand the first paragraphs purpose. Uncharted is a pretty good game from what I have played so far.

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#43 dropperbr
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I guess we can only trust Indie sites now Norg

exactly and Indie site need to open their eyes!

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#44 fileman3
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I guess we can only trust Indie sites now Norg

exactly and whoppi goldberg needs to open her eyes!!

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#45 Locke562
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Exactly... Moles just need to open their eyes.
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#46 Dreams-Visions
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Exactly....Dream Vision needs to open his buttcheeks.TheJuiceyBar
no sexing on me without at least 3 dates. 8)
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#47 Aidenfury19
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Exactly Gamespot needs to open its eyes.
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#48 BlazeDragon132
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Exactly...Gaint Eyeball needs to open its eyes...so I can shoot an arrow at it!
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#49 carsales
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exactly...... stevie wonder just needs to open his eyes.
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#50 white_sox
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[QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"]Exactly....Dream Vision needs to open his buttcheeks.tbone29

Woah... everyone needs to shield their eyes :?

You got me laughing out loud on that one :lol: