DISCLAIMER. This is only MY opinion. I am NOT insulting anyone. I am calling it like I SEE it. I would like to DEBATE this topic civily. Well, after slogging through the RIDICULOUS amount of nit-picking CONTRADICTORY gamespot TOS rules, I think.....edit.....I think that.......edit......I think that.......edit......I think that I can.........edit. DANG it. What the heck can I say or do here that WONT get moderated? I'll try it again. (Deep breath 1...2...3) I think the "average" console player has LOW expectations and does not even know it. I think that the average console player would be more than willing to pay $8 to go see Star Wars and see just the final 20 minute space battle and be satisfied. Similarly, they are more than HAPPY to pay $60 for a console game that delivers 50%-60% of the content of a PC game. Anyone who has been around the block as I have (I've seen it ALL), and anyone who has to actually PAY for the games they buy, would quickly see that PC are far superior than console games. Yes, I do own an Xbox 360, so don't think I just hate consoles. Anyone who has done research KNOWS that PC game ALWAYS have more content and ALWAYS have better graphics (when is the last time you got SIX CD's with a console game? NEVER). There have been numerous studies to PROVE that--it's out there. That, in and of itself, of course does not mean the PC game is always better. Story and voice acting and gameplay are huge parts too. I'll take RESIDENT Evil for the PS2 anyday over starcraft or warcraft for the PC. These consolers do NOT see the big picture. They are more content with the quick, easy, instant gratification of console games (the equivalent of an MTV video). Consequently, this is where their $$$$ go. This is why the PC game is swiftly going the way of the cassette tape. Back in the mid to late 90's, I can remember walking into a best buy and walking up and down 6 aisles of PC games. Nowadays, there may be 1 aisle with an endcap display. PATHETIC. If this trend of low expectations continues, MARK MY WORDS, in 3 years' time, you will see $80 games that can be played from beginning to end in ONE SITTING.
Cool. I don't really care though. Sue me. I play games that I like and a console is more convient for my needs, if that is screwing you over, sucks to be you my friend.
Console gaimg is not killing anything. Just keep on buying your PC games and you should be fine. And don't accuse me from having low expectations...seriously, why even say that? If people are having fun with their 4 hr experience for 50$, let them be.
Cool. I don't really care though. Sue me. I play games that I like and a console is more convient for my needs, if that is screwing you over, sucks to be you my friend.
Cool. I don't really care though. Sue me. I play games that I like and a console is more convient for my needs, if that is screwing you over, sucks to be you my friend.
FIrst off, the selection of PC games, as I have POINTED out, is not there anymore...FACT. Quality PC games still exist, but they are getting overwhelmed by watered down console games. 2) It is moreso the players fault than the developers. If the developers can get someone to pay $50 for a 10 hour game with crappy gameplay, they will. If they can get you to pay $80, they will. We PC gamers are more discriminating. We REFUSE to do such things. What I'm trying to say is the devs are just feeding the masses what they want, all the while DESTROYING what STARTED it ALL. And what the masses want is NOT healthy for the good of the industry. There is a bubble. One day, it will burst. Mark my words again, people. The day will come that Console games will become SO WATERED down, so flooded with sub-standard games, that the ENTIRE gaming world will be a shadow of itself, much the way present day "rock music" is compared with 80's METAL.
Ah yes, the stereotypical technophile ivory tower PC snob... But this is a new one, so he hasn't learned how to do it tactfully yet. My gaming history... Pre-NES, PC only. Then... PC-Nes. Next gen, PC-SNES. Netxt gen, PC-PS-N64. Next gen, PC-XBOX-GC-PS2. This gen, PC-XBOX. My favorite game top ten is composed of over half PC games, and I still PC game to this day (actually have a few hours of multiplayer Civilization IV booked in with a buddy tonight). So, that's me, when I say what I'm about to say. Consoles, to this day, have some of the best games with the highest standards of production value, creativity, and pure enjoyment factor. The big picture is, the loss of PC gaming would be terrible because it does greatly contribute to the technical advancement of gaming - but it is *FAR* from having the market cornered on very high quality games. Of course, as an ivory tower PC snob, you always look into someone else's yard to see whose dog crapped on your lawn - but take a look at poochie living in your own tower. Games like Crysis, old style high-production value WRPGs and all that, are making tiny fractions of the money that MMO's and games like The Sims are. Why? Because the PC audience isn't supporting the types of games they did a decade ago the same way they did a decade ago. The same slack-jawed mouth breathers who you are blaming consoles on have a *VERY* strong foothold on the PC, and go figure, if consoles were to disappear tomorrow, it wouldn't stop WoW and The Sims from being the biggest things on PC gaming - to the detriment of things like Crysis, Dragon Age, etc etc... Of course, when all is said and done, these people and titles you're so down on don't kill the real standout games - they just make them a niche market. But frankly, that's what they should be - the audience that wants a game to be like some layered cake with varying levels of tartness and sweetness coming together to make some hard to access and very complex end product is just way smaller than the audience that wants their sugar right now. What's more, the breakdown of "good" and "bad" gamers doesn't come down to "instant gratification" VS non-instant gratification. Huge portions of the PC FPS crowd are pretty much teens with ADD - instant gratification isn't, in them, viewed by the PC community as a bad thing. The "good" VS "bad" gamer metric is much more complicated than you're making it out to be, and the people who don't mind short games aren't even the worst of it - and they aren't PC only. Lastly, I don't really know what to say. You think what you think, and if I know your type, nothing will change that. I'd suggest taking a careful look at the changes in PC gaming over the past decade, and you'll find that not all of the blame you're laying deserves to be on consoles. PC gamers have changed, and as a result, PC gaming is changing. Not all the console's fault, and console gaming is doing some very good things independent of PC gaming.
FIrst off, the selection of PC games, as I have POINTED out, is not there anymore...FACT. Quality PC games still exist, but they are getting overwhelmed by watered down console games. Mr_cheater_1
Perhaps you should focus on the good console games rather than ignoring them, and recognize that there are plenty of "bad" PC games rather than ignoring them? It might balance out your perspective on who's the veritable devil in this whole mixup.
FIrst off, the selection of PC games, as I have POINTED out, is not there anymore...FACT. Quality PC games still exist, but they are getting overwhelmed by watered down console games. 2) It is moreso the players fault than the developers. If the developers can get someone to pay $50 for a 10 hour game with crappy gameplay, they will. If they can get you to pay $80, they will. We PC gamers are more discriminating. We REFUSE to do such things. What I'm trying to say is the devs are just feeding the masses what they want, all the while DESTROYING what STARTED it ALL. And what the masses want is NOT healthy for the good of the industry. There is a bubble. One day, it will burst. Mark my words again, people. The day will come that Console games will become SO WATERED down, so flooded with sub-standard games, that the ENTIRE gaming world will be a shadow of itself, much the way present day "rock music" is compared with 80's METAL. Mr_cheater_1
Cool, but none of us (the peoople buying console games) really give a damn about what you think of our spending habits. You vote with your dolllar and we'll vote with ours. Oh and, when the market crashes, then we'll take your words to heart ;)
FIrst off, the selection of PC games, as I have POINTED out, is not there anymore...FACT. Quality PC games still exist, but they are getting overwhelmed by watered down console games. 2) It is moreso the players fault than the developers. If the developers can get someone to pay $50 for a 10 hour game with crappy gameplay, they will. If they can get you to pay $80, they will. We PC gamers are more discriminating. We REFUSE to do such things. What I'm trying to say is the devs are just feeding the masses what they want, all the while DESTROYING what STARTED it ALL. And what the masses want is NOT healthy for the good of the industry. There is a bubble. One day, it will burst. Mark my words again, people. The day will come that Console games will become SO WATERED down, so flooded with sub-standard games, that the ENTIRE gaming world will be a shadow of itself, much the way present day "rock music" is compared with 80's METAL. Mr_cheater_1
The only way console ports are watered down is graphically and in all honesty, it is not that big of difference, the law of diminishing returns is getting stronger as consoles get stronger.
I like PC gaming too but I grew up playing consoles and the feeling of sitting in front of your large screen tv to have fun can't be beaten by sitting uncomfortably in front of a computer. Also PC gaming is way too expensive since you have to keep upgrading your rig almost every year now (I upgraded mine last year paying like $900, it was a very good upgrade but reading on all the new PC games' recommended specs I realize I would have to upgrade soon again if I want to experience them in acceptable settings). Even if the consoles don't deliver the same as the PC at least you know that your are playing the games as they were meant to be played (mostly).
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Also PC gaming is way too expensive since you have to keep upgrading your rig almost every year now (I upgraded mine last year paying like $900, it was a very good upgrade but reading on all the new PC games' recommended specs I realize I would have to upgrade soon again if I want to experience them in acceptable settings). Even if the consoles don't deliver the same as the PC at least you know that your are playing the games as they were meant to be played (mostly). Oh dear... Why did you have to go and add this? Can you edit that out before THEY see this? We'll never shut THEM up after they sink their teeth into this...
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Also PC gaming is way too expensive since you have to keep upgrading your rig almost every year now (I upgraded mine last year paying like $900, it was a very good upgrade but reading on all the new PC games' recommended specs I realize I would have to upgrade soon again if I want to experience them in acceptable settings). Even if the consoles don't deliver the same as the PC at least you know that your are playing the games as they were meant to be played (mostly). Oh dear... Why did you have to go and add this? Can you edit that out before THEY see this? We'll never shut THEM up after they sink their teeth into this... Who are THEY? and what are you talking about? I'm pretty new to the forums...
Let's talk FACTS. We "lofty" PC game players have such HIGH expectations that we DEMAND games evolve at at fast rate. We are MORE than willing to upgrade our 1 year old computer in order to handle the next version of a game. MORE THAN WILLING. See, with consoles, with a 5+ year life expectancy, you are playing games created in 2009 for a console with 2005 technology. THAT is why console games FAIL, for the most part. We are at the CUTTING edge. A game we buy today was created for TODAY'S tech not 4 year old tech.
[QUOTE="RedruM_I Who are THEY? and what are you talking about? I'm pretty new to the forums... They are the PC fanatics. You've touched on one of the longest and most hotly contested issues in PC gaming on these forums, and one of the ones PC fanboys are most defensive about. The reality is, you spent a lot of money for your upgrade - there are ins and outs, places you can go (online), guides you can read, and all sorts of things you can do to learn ways to cut the cost of PC upgrades down by a lot. The PC fanboys in this forum would *NEVER* admit that your average gamer isn't in a position to just pull this type of activity out of their arse, and the moment someone says "I had to pay so much money - keeping my PC running is expensive!" that person is just asking to be hounded by PC gamers all the live-long day as they insist he, and anyone like him, is an idiot for not getting the same upgrades for half the price. Next time you think of upgrading, hit up a PC forum. Here is OK, and they'll get you sent in the right direction for how to cut a lot of costs for PC upgrades. But never, EVER claim to them that PC upgrading is expensive or you'll have someone like Vandalvideo come in and treat you like a chimpanzee and give you three guides about how his girlfriend, grandmother, and three year old cousin built a PC from scratch for half the price with 20 minutes research.
[QUOTE="Mr_cheater_1"]Let's talk FACTS. We "lofty" PC game players have such HIGH expectations that we DEMAND games evolve at at fast rate. We are MORE than willing to upgrade our 1 year old computer in order to handle the next version of a game. MORE THAN WILLING. See, with consoles, with a 5+ year life expectancy, you are playing games created in 2009 for a console with 2005 technology. THAT is why console games FAIL, for the most part. We are at the CUTTING edge. A game we buy today was created for TODAY'S tech not 4 year old tech. Good for you. I like to think that even if the consoles' hardware gets old it also gives time to really optimize its performance. Even if I can play much better looking games on my PC I'm never disappointed for what I get on my console.
wait a minute tc is angry because console gamer are buying LEGIT COPY of game they love .and you think we should buy a pc to buy the games you are not willing to pay for yourself . are you crazy ?
[QUOTE="Mr_cheater_1"]Let's talk FACTS. We "lofty" PC game players have such HIGH expectations that we DEMAND games evolve at at fast rate. We are MORE than willing to upgrade our 1 year old computer in order to handle the next version of a game. MORE THAN WILLING. See, with consoles, with a 5+ year life expectancy, you are playing games created in 2009 for a console with 2005 technology. THAT is why console games FAIL, for the most part. We are at the CUTTING edge. A game we buy today was created for TODAY'S tech not 4 year old tech. ...Are you new to gaming or something? Consoles have been like this since the very beginning.
[QUOTE="Mr_cheater_1"]Let's talk FACTS. We "lofty" PC game players have such HIGH expectations that we DEMAND games evolve at at fast rate. We are MORE than willing to upgrade our 1 year old computer in order to handle the next version of a game. MORE THAN WILLING. See, with consoles, with a 5+ year life expectancy, you are playing games created in 2009 for a console with 2005 technology. THAT is why console games FAIL, for the most part. We are at the CUTTING edge. A game we buy today was created for TODAY'S tech not 4 year old tech. I think you're missing out on one thing. Some of the old PC games are still among the best PC games ever released. How could this be, if technical advancement and capability are the be-all end-all of gaming goodness, since these older games obviously can't match up to contemporary titles technically? The answer is obvious - the qualities that make games great don't need to be tied to tech, and some of the best games out today, that live up to the absolute highest expectations in gaming, don't tax the limits of contemporary gaming tech at all. The most fun I've had in PC gaming recently, easily, is Plants VS Zombies. That game could have easily been done on the SNES. When I have more fun with that than the latest high-tech doo-dad PC game, I have to wonder... Is the tech at all necessary to make a good game? The obvious answer is no. That's not to say that I want technical advancement to stop, but, it should be clear to anyone without an angenda that a game made with a great idea and a lot of heart, thought, and production value beats out a game that strives to push technical barriers every time. As such, any gamer who treats technical advancement as an integral component to the production of quality games is missing the boat.
[QUOTE="Mr_cheater_1"]Let's talk FACTS. We "lofty" PC game players have such HIGH expectations that we DEMAND games evolve at at fast rate. We are MORE than willing to upgrade our 1 year old computer in order to handle the next version of a game. MORE THAN WILLING. See, with consoles, with a 5+ year life expectancy, you are playing games created in 2009 for a console with 2005 technology. THAT is why console games FAIL, for the most part. We are at the CUTTING edge. A game we buy today was created for TODAY'S tech not 4 year old tech.RedruM_I
Good for you. I like to think that even if the consoles' hardware gets old it also gives time to really optimize its performance. Even if I can play much better looking games on my PC I'm never disappointed for what I get on my console. I agree. During the ps2 era I played on the pc 95% of the time but this gen it is the other way around. When playing my xbox on a 52" plasma I don't think about how much nicer it would be to play on the pc. The difference just isn't significant anymore especially since so many games are multiplat and have rendering engines that were designed with consoles in mind. Throw in the fact that so many multiplats are delayed on the pc and you can see why I rarely bother.
Games like Crysis that push pc hardware to the limits are going the way of the dinosaur. So pc elitism this gen is rather silly.
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="RedruM_I Who are THEY? and what are you talking about? I'm pretty new to the forums... They are the PC fanatics. You've touched on one of the longest and most hotly contested issues in PC gaming on these forums, and one of the ones PC fanboys are most defensive about. The reality is, you spent a lot of money for your upgrade - there are ins and outs, places you can go (online), guides you can read, and all sorts of things you can do to learn ways to cut the cost of PC upgrades down by a lot. The PC fanboys in this forum would *NEVER* admit that your average gamer isn't in a position to just pull this type of activity out of their arse, and the moment someone says "I had to pay so much money - keeping my PC running is expensive!" that person is just asking to be hounded by PC gamers all the live-long day as they insist he, and anyone like him, is an idiot for not getting the same upgrades for half the price. Next time you think of upgrading, hit up a PC forum. Here is OK, and they'll get you sent in the right direction for how to cut a lot of costs for PC upgrades. But never, EVER claim to them that PC upgrading is expensive or you'll have someone like Vandalvideo come in and treat you like a chimpanzee and give you three guides about how his girlfriend, grandmother, and three year old cousin built a PC from scratch for half the price with 20 minutes research. LMFAO!! Ok good to know. I actually did quite a bit of research when upgrading my computer, I basically only kept my hard drives and dvd player. I got a 780i SLI with a GeForce 9800 GTX and a Core 2 Duo E8500.
[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] Next time you think of upgrading, hit up a PC forum. Here is OK, and they'll get you sent in the right direction for how to cut a lot of costs for PC upgrades. But never, EVER claim to them that PC upgrading is expensive or you'll have someone like Vandalvideo come in and treat you like a chimpanzee and give you three guides about how his girlfriend, grandmother, and three year old cousin built a PC from scratch for half the price with 20 minutes research. I'm merely showing one that it can be done. You don't have to take the same approach to PC gaming like the TC or someone like Br0kenrabbit may take. You can take advantage of cheap hardware and easy configuration if you invest a marginal ammount of time into learning about these things. In return for the investment, you gain a lot of marketable talents that you can use for advancement further down the road in your careers, you can end up saving a large ammount of money by gaming on the PC in the long run, and you can largely negate the innitial investment of time thanks to automated patches and updates which are becomming the norm. The innitial foot in the door will take some time if you want to get a low price on your rigs. Even then, if you want to be lazy, there is always prepackaged rigs, but they just cost more. That is what the PC is all about. If you want to take the time to invest in it you can. You lose a marginal ammount of time and gain numerous benefits or you can give up the benefits and lose some extra money. Either way, there is a choice when coming into PC gaming. It isn't as simple as some console gamers make think when they tell you, "PC gaming is a pain". It can be, just at it can be easy.
FACT 1....PC games look better. DO the research, people. I won't hold your hands. FACT 2...PC games last longer. WIth my VAST experience on both realms, I'd say a full 97% PC have more gameplay time than Consoles. Conversely, Console games do not have as good graphics, have shorter play time and cost more. Can SOMEONE please tell me why they are DESTROYING the once SACRED PC game?
I like PC gaming too but I grew up playing consoles and the feeling of sitting in front of your large screen tv to have fun can't be beaten by sitting uncomfortably in front of a computer. Also PC gaming is way too expensive since you have to keep upgrading your rig almost every year now (I upgraded mine last year paying like $900, it was a very good upgrade but reading on all the new PC games' recommended specs I realize I would have to upgrade soon again if I want to experience them in acceptable settings). Even if the consoles don't deliver the same as the PC at least you know that your are playing the games as they were meant to be played (mostly).RedruM_I
I'm sorry that you didn't do your research and apparently REALLY overpaid for your parts.
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] LMFAO!! Ok good to know. I actually did quite a bit of research when upgrading my computer, I basically only kept my hard drives and dvd player. I got a 780i SLI with a GeForce 9800 GTX and a Core 2 Duo E8500. Eh, fair enough. As an experiment though, you should hop into the PC forum and start a thread with asking how to build a computer from scratch for not much money. You'll get all sorts of helpful tips that no regular person would have been able to find on their own.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Shafftehr"] Next time you think of upgrading, hit up a PC forum. Here is OK, and they'll get you sent in the right direction for how to cut a lot of costs for PC upgrades. But never, EVER claim to them that PC upgrading is expensive or you'll have someone like Vandalvideo come in and treat you like a chimpanzee and give you three guides about how his girlfriend, grandmother, and three year old cousin built a PC from scratch for half the price with 20 minutes research. I'm merely showing one that it can be done. You don't have to take the same approach to PC gaming like the TC or someone like Br0kenrabbit may take. You can take advantage of cheap hardware and easy configuration if you invest a marginal ammount of time into learning about these things. In return for the investment, you gain a lot of marketable talents that you can use for advancement further down the road in your careers, you can end up saving a large ammount of money by gaming on the PC in the long run, and you can largely negate the innitial investment of time thanks to automated patches and updates which are becomming the norm. The innitial foot in the door will take some time if you want to get a low price on your rigs. Even then, if you want to be lazy, there is always prepackaged rigs, but they just cost more. That is what the PC is all about. If you want to take the time to invest in it you can. You lose a marginal ammount of time and gain numerous benefits or you can give up the benefits and lose some extra money. Either way, there is a choice when coming into PC gaming. It isn't as simple as some console gamers make think when they tell you, "PC gaming is a pain". It can be, just at it can be easy. Did you install a device on your computer that lets you know whenever I say bad things about you or something? Anyways, there won't be any argument today over your rather liberal use of terms like "marginal." The weather is nice, and the resolution is higher out there than on my monitor, and I want to see me some fancy graphics.
FACT 1....PC games look better. DO the research, people. I won't hold your hands. FACT 2...PC games last longer. WIth my VAST experience on both realms, I'd say a full 97% PC have more gameplay time than Consoles. Conversely, Console games do not have as good graphics, have shorter play time and cost more. Can SOMEONE please tell me why they are DESTROYING the once SACRED PC game?Mr_cheater_1
Fact 3...PC games have an obscenely high piracy rates.
Why don't you address this first before blaming people who buy console games? I buy both console and pc games but for multiplats I tend to buy console since I prefer to play on the couch and because the pc version is often delayed. However even when I buy the console version of a multiplat I am still doing far more for pc gaming than pirates who don't support developers at all.
FACT 1....PC games look better. DO the research, people. I won't hold your hands. FACT 2...PC games last longer. WIth my VAST experience on both realms, I'd say a full 97% PC have more gameplay time than Consoles. Conversely, Console games do not have as good graphics, have shorter play time and cost more. Can SOMEONE please tell me why they are DESTROYING the once SACRED PC game?Mr_cheater_1
yeah yo i heard every time i buy a snes cart somebody burns down a pc dev studio, what up with that seriously
that aside,
1) your continued tirade on graphics is boring me. why are you being so boring
2) yeah i could still be playing modded hl 2 if i wanted but guess what chump, every now and then i like to get new games. sometimes i dont actually WANT to play a game for sixty hours, i want something like ten or twenty hours.
anyway, i actually agree that pc gaming is best. imo thats not enevr really debatable from an objective standpoint. but you make that argument citing all the worst possible reasons there are. good work
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]I like PC gaming too but I grew up playing consoles and the feeling of sitting in front of your large screen tv to have fun can't be beaten by sitting uncomfortably in front of a computer. Also PC gaming is way too expensive since you have to keep upgrading your rig almost every year now (I upgraded mine last year paying like $900, it was a very good upgrade but reading on all the new PC games' recommended specs I realize I would have to upgrade soon again if I want to experience them in acceptable settings). Even if the consoles don't deliver the same as the PC at least you know that your are playing the games as they were meant to be played (mostly).svetzenlether
I'm sorry that you didn't do your research and apparently REALLY overpaid for your parts.
Like I said I did some research and I consider I didn't overpaid for what I got. The computer I had before this one was bought in 2001, it even had RIMMs, not many was salvageable.
Building a computer from scatch is Soooo 20th century. Now-a-days a NOVICE can do it. It's pretty much plug-n-play modules that "snap" into place. The computer I am typing on this very MOMENT was purchased in 2001. It NOW has a PHENOM quad core 3 ghz, 8 GB RAM, 750 GB Hard drive, Ge-force 9800GT, and a DVD-RW drive. All those things DIDNT exist in 2001 and I installed them all in less than one HOUR total time-- at a savings of 75% of buying a new comp. It aint as hard as you think.
I dont see the PURPOSE of capitalizing random WORDS as if typing out a severe SPEECH problem. :P That said, i think the old doozy of 'PC games are so much deeper and more advanced that console games' is dead at this point. Come on guys. There was once a time when PCs were playing Quake and Doom and consoles were playing little puzzle games and side-scrolling platformers; at that point in time, sure, PCs were offering a hell of a lot more depth in gameplay. But now? Heck no. The majority of games are released on PC and consoles and look and play identically. Controllers have been developed and perfected to the point that they aren't seen as epic disadvantages over mouse and keyboard any more. Of course, some see that as things simply leveling out over time. Some PC die-hards like to interpret that as consoles 'ruining teh PC gaming' but in reality, nothing has changed.
If the developers can get someone to pay $50 for a 10 hour game with crappy gameplay, they will.. Mr_cheater_1
Games aren't $50 and only 10 hours long because of the evil, evil console gamers. They're more expensive and shorter because of the precious technology you praise resulting in epic development costs which means higher prices and shorter games. Development studios are bigger than ever. They have to hire more people than ever. They spend more money than ever. The average cost of developing a game is not breaching into $60 million, all the while the average length of games decreases. If it weren't for the constant demand for slightly better graphics from people such as yourself, that wouldn't be the case.
To be fair, I have logged MORE hours on Xbox 360 this week than the PC. I am ANYTHING but one sided. Also, to the untrained eye, both platforms look the same. HAH! Take a look through my eyes and you'll see a difference as large as Xbox to Xbox 360. Next, There is a HUGE difference between piracy and fair use. DO THE RESEARCH. If I buy a Metallica CD, the law says that I may make a copy of it. FACT. Also, I may allow my friend to listen to that copy if he or she wants to. FACT. What I can't do is MASS produce that copy and sell it for profit or even give it away. Many game distributors are confusing the two and actually try to prevent ME from copying a game and letting my friend play it. Heck, they don't even want me to pass on the original as they feel it takes $$$ out of their POCKET. Can you say STEAM? Anyways, piracy is not as prevalent as the media wants you to believe. It is a war on fair use, is what it is.
Anywho back on topic. Everyone knows that the PC is superiour in graphics to consoles...well a decent PC. And the reason people are probably swaying to consoles is because theres more of a pick-up-and-play factor to it. There is a huge amount of shovel-ware in all consoles (wii mostly) and it is such a shame to see great PC games being shoved to one side to give Barbie pony parade 3 a better light on the shelves. But thats business baby, consoles are dominating at the moment so instead of blaming people who play consoles for the downfall of pc gaming (which btw there is no downfall heard of WoW before?) why not try picking up a good console game and giving it a go. Pleanty of great games out there which will last you a long time. Oh yeah also if you think graphics is the most important thing in a game then its you my friend who is bringing down gaming.
PC gaming is fine, nothing is killing it. I just whish some of the titles would be more polished like Epire Total War or (for gods sake PLEASE GSC gameworld! you crack this you have made the perfect game!!) STALKER
GOTCHA!!! We all KNOW that better graphics requires more space on a DVD. Now, what a console developer does, quite simply, is when the space runs out, they end the game. SHIP IT. What a PC game developer does is not sacrifice quality or content or increase the price, they simply ADD ANOTHER DVD. I seem to remember Unreal Tournament had 5 or 6 CD's for $39 bucks BRAND NEW. And yet PC games are slipping. HELP me understand.
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