You do realize that Microsoft makes money on PC gaming?

Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

Indirectly, yes.

Not as much as they get from the 360 though.

Directly, Microsoft makes zero on any typical Windows app. The only way they make money is indirectly though increases sales of Windows, or through more sales of their development products.

Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

Idream2010

That doesn't mean they're exclusive games though, if that's the point your trying to make.

Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

Idream2010

so does sony when they put the games on dvd.

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Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

drakecool1

so does sony when they put the games on dvd.

Directly, Microsoft makes zero on any typical Windows app. The only way they make money is indirectly though increases sales of Windows, or through more sales of their development products.

Teufelhuhn

Sony makes money when people buy Sony Laptops and Sony Monitors and Sony TVs.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Sony makes money when people buy Sony Laptops and Sony Monitors and Sony TVs.FatedX360

so i guess then that the sony playstation 3 is actually the nvidia/ibm/sony/toshiba PS3, since all those companies make money off of every ps3 soldchopperdave447

No, PC-360 games are not exclusives. That is what this is about, right? Indirectly?

still doesn't mean that the 360 and pc should be lumped together...in case that's what you were going for.

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Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

so does sony when they put the games on dvd.

Windows is a open format, so i i don't think game companies don't have to pay them. I could be wrong.

They still make money off of Games For Windows since it is more than likely Microsoft Game Studios has been involved in it whether its development, publishing or distribution. On a side note, most Games For Windows uses Live Anywhere which is pretty much like XBL without the fees...they gain money off that through DLC content. They gain very little money though And no....Sony doesn't get money from putting games on DVD...they didnt. SOny didnt invent the DVD, the DVD was invented by Toshiba and a company called Matushusita FatedX360

You know I'd repeat my whole statement about what games for windows means, but I just saw you level and I am not gonna really bother.

Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

Idream2010

Oh and I forgot, where's your evidence?

Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

Idream2010

As far as I'm aware all the "Games for Windows" certification means is that it meets the requirements of a certain set of features. I wasn't aware of publishers needing to pay any licensing fees purely to put "Games for Windows" on their games.

As far as I'm aware all the "Games for Windows" certification means is that it meets the requirements of a certain set of features. I wasn't aware of publishers needing to pay any licensing fees purely to put "Games for Windows" on their games.

shinrabanshou

Oh someone who knows this other than me! "High Five" !!!

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As far as I'm aware all the "Games for Windows" certification means is that it meets the requirements of a certain set of features. I wasn't aware of publishers needing to pay any licensing fees purely to put "Games for Windows" on their games.

Espada12

Oh someone who knows this other than me! "High Five" !!!

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So, I'm guess this thread is about 360/PC multiplats. But even if they did make money on "Games for Windows" it would still be a separate platform anyway... :\

They make money on selling operating systems and development software. And distribution if you count the GFWL store.

That's about it.

Its a long drawn out argument here, but I was wondering how many people actually know that Microsoft actually makes money on Games For Windows and anything that is produced using the windows platform.

Idream2010

Hopefully they do not know this as it's false. MS doesn't make money from GFW branded games, it's the other way around..MS actualy pays to have that brand attached to other publishers' games. Also..they do not make money out of windows programs other people make, not from sales anyway. THe only profit they get is incirectly from general tools people buy to make any software,

Wow - TC needs to do some serious research on this stuff. Unless he did mean "indirectly". Let us all hope. But other than that, cmon fellow gamers - I am sure that he has learnt his lesson by now.

Directly, Microsoft makes zero on any typical Windows app. The only way they make money is indirectly though increases sales of Windows, or through more sales of their development products.

Teufelhuhn

Wow - TC needs to do some serious research on this stuff. Unless he did mean "indirectly". Let us all hope. But other than that, cmon fellow gamers - I am sure that he has learnt his lesson by now.

mgs_freak91

maybe you should do some research or read this thread, just because one guy said it doesnt mean its the truth, look at how many others said they do, I am sure you have learned that lesson by now.

I thought Microsoft makes nothing for "games for windows" titles, unless they publish them. I thought it was just to show consumers some of the features to expect in the game aswell as the quality has been looked at. SAGE_OF_FIRE

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Wow - TC needs to do some serious research on this stuff. Unless he did mean "indirectly". Let us all hope. But other than that, cmon fellow gamers - I am sure that he has learnt his lesson by now.

Idream2010

maybe you should do some research or read this thread, just because one guy said it doesnt mean its the truth, look at how many others said they do, I am sure you have learned that lesson by now.

When a Dev makes a game on the PC they don't pay MS

however MS is using games as a form of advertisement for windows. so they dont profit from games being sold but it helps spread windows to more homes

Sony makes money from selling PC, Ms makes money from Software and so dose ATI, Nvidia, intel etc.. see they all make money by working together everybody wins

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Directly, Microsoft makes zero on any typical Windows app. The only way they make money is indirectly though increases sales of Windows, or through more sales of their development products.

Arnalion

Not really, they don't make hardly anything because most people already have windows, nobody uses GFWL to buy in-game stuff, and they don't make any money from hardware or software sold. So basically it's just selling OS

Directly, Microsoft makes zero on any typical Windows app. The only way they make money is indirectly though increases sales of Windows, or through more sales of their development products.

[QUOTE="FatedX360"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Sony makes money when people buy Sony Laptops and Sony Monitors and Sony TVs.hiryu3