You Guys Have to Realize Something About Standards

The Xbox 360 and Ps3 have pretty much the same standards when it comes to games. The Wii, on the onter hand, isn't even close. So when a game gets a 9 on the Wii and an 8.5 on the PS3/Xbox 360, it doesn't mean the Wii game is better than the PS3/360 game. It just means that the reviewers are stricter when the Review the PS3/360 games.

If an 8.5 PS3/360 game is ported onto the Wii without any changes, that game would most probably score a 9+ (or higher than an 8.5 at least) on that console.

Standards are different for all systems, but everything you said is just......

Well, let's just say it made me dumber. :|

replace Wii with "consoles" and "Xbox 360/PS3" with "PC",and you get...Hewkii

Well, we're talking about consoles here, bud. Plus the diferences between the Ps3/Xbox 360 and the PC are not that large when you compare the differences between the Wii and the other two consoles. But that's besides the point.

I dont think its a difference in standards between PS3/360 vs Wii as it is among individual games.If a minigame collection came out on 360, it would be held to the same standards as a Wii minigame collection and if something like Mass Effect came out on Wii, it would be held to a same standard as Mass Effect on 360. It just appears that its a ps3/360 vs Wii thing since Wii has lots of minigames and PS3/360 has lots of big budget, ambitious titles.

Unless one is a graphics whore, standards should not be lowered when one plays the Wii. Svarthek

But it's not just the graphics. Do you seriously think that graphics is all that next-gen tech has to offer?

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]replace Wii with "consoles" and "Xbox 360/PS3" with "PC",and you get...emawk

Well, we're talking about consoles here, bud. Plus the diferences between the Ps3/Xbox 360 and the PC are not that large when you compare the differences between the Wii and the other two consoles. But that's besides the point.

[QUOTE="Svarthek"]Unless one is a graphics whore, standards should not be lowered when one plays the Wii. emawk

But it's not just the graphics. Do you seriously think that graphics is all that next-gen tech has to offer?

that depends what you define graphics as.

[QUOTE="Svarthek"]Unless one is a graphics whore, standards should not be lowered when one plays the Wii. emawk

But it's not just the graphics. Do you seriously think that graphics is all that next-gen tech has to offer?

The Xbox 360 and Ps3 have pretty much the same standards when it comes to games. The Wii, on the onter hand, isn't even close. So when a game gets a 9 on the Wii and an 8.5 on the PS3/Xbox 360, it doesn't mean the Wii game is better than the PS3/360 game. It just means that the reviewers are stricter when the Review the PS3/360 games.

If an 8.5 PS3/360 game is ported onto the Wii without any changes, that game would most probably score a 9+ (or higher than an 8.5 at least) on that console.

emawk

your logic makes absolute NO sense. have you ever come to think that maybe the wii version of that particular multiplat is ENHANCED by a certain control method? take madden for instance, it's scored much higher than it's 360/PS3 counter parts, despite graphics.

I dont think its a difference in standards between PS3/360 vs Wii as it is among individual games.If a minigame collection came out on 360, it would be held to the same standards as a Wii minigame collection and if something like Mass Effect came out on Wii, it would be held to a same standard as Mass Effect on 360. It just appears that its a ps3/360 vs Wii thing since Wii has lots of minigames and PS3/360 has lots of big budget, ambitious titles.

theburg

Reviewers base their scores on what the console (it's technology) can muster, among other things. That said, compared to the Wii, the 360/PS3 have higher standards.

I bet this has something to do with Metroid and Bioshock.Michael85

Actually, I've been meaning to make a thread like this for quite a while, but just kept on forgeting, until I saw those Metroid vs Bioshock threads.

Reviewers are going to grade them based on the tech of the consoles their on, among other things.

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I dont think its a difference in standards between PS3/360 vs Wii as it is among individual games.If a minigame collection came out on 360, it would be held to the same standards as a Wii minigame collection and if something like Mass Effect came out on Wii, it would be held to a same standard as Mass Effect on 360. It just appears that its a ps3/360 vs Wii thing since Wii has lots of minigames and PS3/360 has lots of big budget, ambitious titles.

emawk

Reviewers base their scores on what the console (it's technology) can muster, among other things. That said, compared to the Wii, the 360/PS3 have higher standards.

They review based on what the game is trying to accomplish.The hardware is just an afterthought. If a game does what it sets out to do, and does it very well, it will get a good score. Lumines didnt stretch the PSP hardware at all but it was a very good puzzle game so it got AAA.

The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.Koolsen

Not quite. Games like Forza 2 can't be made on the Wii if graphics weren't a consideration. Next-gen tech is more than just graphics.

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.emawk

Not quite. Games like Forza 2 can't be made on the Wii if graphics weren't a consideration. Next-gen tech is more than just graphics.

Unless one is a graphics whore, standards should not be lowered when one plays the Wii. Svarthek

Everyone deep down is a graphics whore a little bit.....

[QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="theburg"]

I dont think its a difference in standards between PS3/360 vs Wii as it is among individual games.If a minigame collection came out on 360, it would be held to the same standards as a Wii minigame collection and if something like Mass Effect came out on Wii, it would be held to a same standard as Mass Effect on 360. It just appears that its a ps3/360 vs Wii thing since Wii has lots of minigames and PS3/360 has lots of big budget, ambitious titles.

theburg

Reviewers base their scores on what the console (it's technology) can muster, among other things. That said, compared to the Wii, the 360/PS3 have higher standards.

They review based on what the game is trying to accomplish.The hardware is just an afterthought. If a game does what it sets out to do, and does it very well, it will get a good score. Lumines didnt stretch the PSP hardware at all but it was a very good puzzle game so it got AAA.

Yes, the hardware is a factor in their reviews.

Puzzle games are not a good example to use because the games are meant to be simple. Why would you need amazing graphics, physics or even AI for puzzle games? Compared to most other games, this genre of games are in a totally different class when it comes to scores. They aren't made to be epic.

[QUOTE="Svarthek"]Unless one is a graphics whore, standards should not be lowered when one plays the Wii. MikeE21286

Everyone deep down is a graphics whore a little bit.....

The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.Koolsen

I dont think thats necessarily true, or we would be seeing more multiplat games being ported to the Wii, with lower graphics, but alot of the multiplat games you can find on the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 are not being ported to the Wii.

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[QUOTE="Svarthek"]Unless one is a graphics whore, standards should not be lowered when one plays the Wii. Svarthek

Everyone deep down is a graphics whore a little bit.....

lol, marriage = gameplay. nice analogy there.

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.jet052006

I dont think thats necessarily true, or we would be seeing more multiplat games being ported to the Wii, with lower graphics, but alot of the multiplat games you can find on the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 are not being ported to the Wii.

You can't really rate Wii games on graphics and expect them to come out top, and as Wii games aren't so advanced, they rely on interactivity or something.

They should be rated on that, as motion sensing is what the Wii is all about. It gets a handicap bonus because of its limited graphics and processing capabilities in comparison to the other consoles.

Metroid Prime Corruption's score in graphics will be based on the power of the Wii, but the gameplay will be rated against all other games in that genre on all other platforms. It has to as many gamers own mulitple gaming machines and want to know what machine has the best games.

It's always been that way, there are no hidden rules that say under powered machines are let off more lightly than more powerful machines when it comes to gameplay. People who say Wii games have lower standards are just afraid that Corruption may be a better game than their Halo's, Bioshocks ect.

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[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.Svarthek

I dont think thats necessarily true, or we would be seeing more multiplat games being ported to the Wii, with lower graphics, but alot of the multiplat games you can find on the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 are not being ported to the Wii.

That might be it, but most Wii fans say that Devs will come to the Wii becasue of all the sales, wouldnt you think they would want to Downgrade their games just to get all the money that is supposedly available on the Wii.

Yes, the hardware is a factor in their reviews.

Puzzle games are not a good example to use because the games are meant to be simple. Why would you need amazing graphics, physics or even AI for puzzle games? Compared to most other games, this genre of games are in a totally different class when it comes to scores. They aren't made to be epic. emawk

That was the point I was trying to make. And to go back to your original post for a moment:

If an 8.5 PS3/360 game is ported onto the Wii without any changes, that game would most probably score a 9+ (or higher than an 8.5 at least) on that consoleemawk

Call of Duty 3 got a 8.2 on PS3 and an 8.8 on 360. It got a 7.2 on Wii. They rate the GAME, they dont make allowances for lesser hardware.

What?

[QUOTE="jet052006"]

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.Svarthek

I dont think thats necessarily true, or we would be seeing more multiplat games being ported to the Wii, with lower graphics, but alot of the multiplat games you can find on the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 are not being ported to the Wii.

And that's because next-gen consoles are more than just graphics.

[QUOTE="emawk"]

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.Koolsen

Not quite. Games like Forza 2 can't be made on the Wii if graphics weren't a consideration. Next-gen tech is more than just graphics.

It should be obvious, but I guess not to everyone. The physics and most likely the sound, AI, and even that paint job feature will be too much for the Wii to handle without significant downgrades.

[QUOTE="Svarthek"][QUOTE="jet052006"]

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.emawk

I dont think thats necessarily true, or we would be seeing more multiplat games being ported to the Wii, with lower graphics, but alot of the multiplat games you can find on the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 are not being ported to the Wii.

And that's because next-gen consoles are more than just graphics.

[QUOTE="emawk"]Yes, the hardware is a factor in their reviews.

Puzzle games are not a good example to use because the games are meant to be simple. Why would you need amazing graphics, physics or even AI for puzzle games? Compared to most other games, this genre of games are in a totally different class when it comes to scores. They aren't made to be epic. theburg

That was the point I was trying to make. And to go back to your original post for a moment:

If an 8.5 PS3/360 game is ported onto the Wii without any changes, that game would most probably score a 9+ (or higher than an 8.5 at least) on that consoleemawk

Call of Duty 3 got a 8.2 on PS3 and an 8.8 on 360. It got a 7.2 on Wii. They rate the GAME, they dont make allowances for lesser hardware.

The got the scores they did because they knew each respective console could do better than that, given their hardware (Note, I'm not saying that's the only factor).

Let me ask you something:

Do you think Zelda Twilight Princess would get an 8.8 if it were ported to the Xbox360/PS3 unchanged? If not, why?

[QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="Svarthek"][QUOTE="jet052006"]

[QUOTE="Koolsen"]The only real difrence is graphics. The same kind of gameplay is possible on all systems.Svarthek

I dont think thats necessarily true, or we would be seeing more multiplat games being ported to the Wii, with lower graphics, but alot of the multiplat games you can find on the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 are not being ported to the Wii.

And that's because next-gen consoles are more than just graphics.

Ok, I misread, but it still doesn't really matter much because developers wouldn't want to downgrade the other non-graphical elements also.