you think wii 2 should have more memory than xbox 360?

You think wii 2 should have more memory than xbox 360? I think memory is cheaper now so they could easily put more memory than what is in xbox 360. What stuff does more memory help in? What stuff has held back ps3 and xbox 360 games to being better because of memory? I like to see it with one gig of memory.

It would be insane it it didn't.

By the time it comes out it will be of the generation following the Wii/PS3/360, so if it was less powerful than the current generation we have now it would be like the Wii being weaker than the PS2.

The Wii 2 needs to be worrying about competing with whatever follows the PS3 and 360, it shouldn't be worried about competing with last generation tech (and this gen will be last gen by the time it comes out.)

Memory is incredibly cheap now. It would be a shame for any next gen consoles to roll with less than 2GB.

If it's gonna be competing the the 360 and PS3 then 120gb minimum. Maybe a budget console with 4gb flash memory like the 360 arcade. Then in a year or two they could release a 250gb or maybe even a 360gb console.

Yes and I'm sure it will have a lot more. It will allow it to run a game like Crysis 1 at high settings.

Sorry, but this is a pretty stupid question. We're talking about a dirt cheap component for a system being released (assuming 2012) 7 years after the system you're comparing it to.

If it's gonna be competing the the 360 and PS3 then 120gb minimum. Maybe a budget console with 4gb flash memory like the 360 arcade. Then in a year or two they could release a 250gb or maybe even a 360gb console.

Hazzard6X

I believe TC is talking about RAM, not HDD storage.

Well, considering there are cell phones with 500mb ram, i would be surprised if wii 2 didnt have more.

It may have more but I don't think it'll have much more. But the graphics will probably look better (probably some low-end AMD chip but still better than what the 360 and PS3 have).

You think wii 2 should have more memory than xbox 360? I think memory is cheaper now so they could easily put more memory than what is in xbox 360. What stuff does more memory help in? What stuff has held back ps3 and xbox 360 games to being better because of memory? I like to see it with one gig of memory.

slipknot0129

RAM: More complex environments, more things happening at once, VRAM: more detailed (higher res) textures, less pop ins.

(feel free to correct me if Im wrong)

I think 1GB of VRAM and 512 MB of RAM would be pretty nice. You dont need too much RAM in a console, since you are not running Windows, Skype, antivirus, quicktime player, java console and seven opened browser windows in the background while gaming :-)

In the end it really just depends on what kind of graphics hardware will be running in the system, my guess would be 1.5 or 2 GB of total RAM, especially if an AMD Fusion processor is used or if the GPU is something like AMD RV740 (Radeon 4770) or Juniper (Radeon 5770), which both ship with 1 GB of VRAM just for themselves. In such a system equipped as such, 2 GB would be proper. Most proper PC games @ 1080p + 2x AA and max settings use just about 600 MB of VRAM. It really just depends on the graphics processor and what Nintendo expects developers to do with it. Then we must ask ourselves, unified RAM pool, or split VRAM and SRAM? Depends on the hardware and what Nintendo wants the system to cost.

Anything less than 2GB of RAM would dumb, because RAM is so so so cheap.

Of course it should have more memory than the 360, the thing is 6 years old. One gig should be more than enough, hopefully it will be clocked faster than the current consoles too. A man can dream right? Really I would rather see less ram clocked at faster speeds than more ram at slower speeds.

Anything less than 2GB of RAM would dumb, because RAM is so so so cheap.

jeffwulf

I really hope it vastly better then the 360/PS3 its about time sheep had something to shout about.

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Anything less than 2GB of RAM would dumb, because RAM is so so so cheap.

CwlHeddwyn

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Anything less than 2GB of RAM would dumb, because RAM is so so so cheap.

deadesa

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You think wii 2 should have more memory than xbox 360? I think memory is cheaper now so they could easily put more memory than what is in xbox 360. What stuff does more memory help in? What stuff has held back ps3 and xbox 360 games to being better because of memory? I like to see it with one gig of memory.

BlbecekBobecek

RAM: More complex environments, more things happening at once, VRAM: more detailed (higher res) textures, less pop ins.

(feel free to correct me if Im wrong)

I think 1GB of VRAM and 512 MB of RAM would be pretty nice. You dont need too much RAM in a console, since you are not running Windows, Skype, antivirus, quicktime player, java console and seven opened browser windows in the background while gaming :-)

You forget the current HD twins can barely run 720p, in fact a lot of games run below HD. Games like BF2 & BF3 feature smaller maps, lower player counts, low res textures. Crysis 2 had to be completely redeveloped due to RAM limitations. the small map and low res textures compared to Crysis1. typically per console generation the RAM increases between 8x and 16x. A jump upto 1GB would be a major waste because a) RAM is extremely cheap b) it's only a 2x increase over current generation c) a console generation lasts 5-6 years. 1GB now will be pitifully small in a few years time d) Nintendo will be competing with next gen machines by Sony/MS.CwlHeddwyn

These sheep seem to love rams, only natural I guess.

These sheep seem to love rams, only natural I guess.

tenaka2

These sheep seem to love rams, only natural I guess.

tenaka2

:lol:

Good man.

2GB is enough.TheGuardian03

I'm willing to pay 20 bucks for 2Gb more. I mean seriously, being cheap on ram is kinda pointless.

2GB minimum. Nintendo has no excuse. I will rage if they fail to deliver. There is no way it'll have 512mb the 3DS has 128mb. That would be embaressing.

Truth be told, Wii 2 will have the same graphical power as Wii does, Nintendo knows very well that this is formula for success. Since Wii sold triple the amount of Gamecube with little to no hardware improvement, I predict the Wii 2 to once again outsell the Wii by at least three times of what 80 millions unit the Wii has sold with no major hardware improvement.

Yes. Nintendo will be shooting themselves in the foot if it doesn't.

Having more RAM in total is better than a smaller amount of faster RAM because of diminishing returns due to latency and higher costs. The gains between RAM generations are advantageous but not as important as the total amount of RAM.

But 1GB? 2GB? Try 4GB or more. Either Nintendo is making a console that competes with only the PS3 and 360 on a technical level (in which case they are six years too late), or they are making something super-powered that will be able to compete with other next-generation offerings once those arrive. They won't make the mistake of making an in-between system.

Developers have always cited the severely limited RAM as their number one issue this generation, and exponentially increasing it will allow for incredible possibilities that simply aren't feasible on current consoles. To put things into perspective, on the PC games like Crysis make full use of 2GB+ to pre-cache massive levels into memory along with a large number of assets (depending on how much RAM you have). Swapping data in and out of a RAM cache is dramatically faster than pulling it from the hard drive on demand (or, worse, the game disc). Being able to pre-cache assets into RAM results in noticeably smoother gameplay for any type of game, reducing the pop-in and texture delays many current console games suffer from. The ability to work with the entire level also offers all sorts of gameplay possibilities that just can't be implemented with a crippled amount of RAM.

Sure, Crysis achieved stunning results with a mere 2GB, but that was in 2007; even the most budget of gaming PCs built in 2011/2012 will have at least twice that, and console manufacturers wanting the next generation to last until something like 2020 will want more too. Giving a true next-gen console 1GB or even 2GB would severely cripple its potential and would make it hopelessly weak once Microsoft and Sony launch theirs with 4GB or more.

I think the Wii2 should have less memory than an already outdated console that struggles for RAM.

I really dont get this question at all.

Having more RAM in total is better than a smaller amount of faster RAM because of diminishing returns due to latency and higher costs. The gains between RAM generations are advantageous but not as important as the total amount of RAM.

But 1GB? 2GB? Try 4GB or more. Either Nintendo is making a console that competes with only the PS3 and 360 on a technical level (in which case they are six years too late), or they are making something super-powered that will be able to compete with other next-generation offerings once those arrive. They won't make the mistake of making an in-between system.

Developers have always cited the severely limited RAM as their number one issue this generation, and exponentially increasing it will allow for incredible possibilities that simply aren't feasible on current consoles. To put things into perspective, on the PC games like Crysis make full use of 2GB+ to pre-cache massive levels into memory along with a large number of assets (depending on how much RAM you have). Swapping data in and out of a RAM cache is dramatically faster than pulling it from the hard drive on demand (or, worse, the game disc). Being able to pre-cache assets into RAM results in noticeably smoother gameplay for any type of game, reducing the pop-in and texture delays many current console games suffer from. The ability to work with the entire level also offers all sorts of gameplay possibilities that just can't be implemented with a crippled amount of RAM.

Sure, Crysis achieved stunning results with a mere 2GB, but that was in 2007; even the most budget of gaming PCs built in 2011/2012 will have at least twice that, and console manufacturers wanting the next generation to last until something like 2020 will want more too. Giving a true next-gen console 1GB or even 2GB would severely cripple its potential and would make it hopelessly weak once Microsoft and Sony launch theirs with 4GB or more.

garrett_daniels

I really dont see a single reason why it should have more than 2 GB of RAM. Its console, not PC, remember?

Because more RAM = Better.

you can NEVER have too much RAM.

yes consoles need less RAM than PC due to lightweight OS but as games get more complicated they require more RAM. Computers require more RAM over time and so do Consoles.

Xbox had 64MB RAM, Xbox 360 has 512MB RAM + 10MB EDRAM

In 2005 512MB + 10MB EDRAM seemed like a lot but now it is a bottleneck. And devs spend their time trying to squeeze in more elements without using up RAM.

Because more RAM = Better.

you can NEVER have too much RAM.

yes consoles need less RAM than PC due to lightweight OS but as games get more complicated they require more RAM. Computers require more RAM over time and so do Consoles.

Xbox had 64MB RAM, Xbox 360 has 512MB RAM + 10MB EDRAM

In 2005 512MB + 10MB EDRAM seemed like a lot but now it is a bottleneck. And devs spend their time trying to squeeze in more elements without using up RAM.

CwlHeddwyn

In 2005 512 GB RAM didnt seem like a lot at all. Actually I had laptop with 1GB RAM back then (and it wasnt even gaming laptop). Even today PCs cant effectively use more than 2 GB of RAM without 64bit Windows (which are still quite rare, most ppl have 32bit). Im much more interested in what graphics chip and CPU will Wii2 have, because that will make much bigger difference. Even if PS3 or 360 had 20GB of RAM, the games wouldnt look much better than they do now.

512MB was not big for PC in 2005 I know but it was big for consoles. Microsoft originally wanted 256MB.

2GB is enough.TheGuardian03

Honestly 2GB rly? I can pick up a 4GB stick of ram for $50 retail, im sure Nintendo could get it even cheaper since theyre a big company, get it straight from the manufacture or w/e.
Then pop in AMD Fusion and your good to go.

The amount of RAM in the system will be GPU dependent really. How cheap the RAM is depends on the type used too. 1 GB certainly is guarranteed, but if the graphics processor is no more powerful than say Redwood or even Juniper, then 2 GB would highy suffice.

If the next nintendo console doesn't have more than 512 MB of memory:

Serious note- Memory is cheap it should have atleast 2 GB

4 GB of RAM seems to be optimum. It will also ensure that the system is competitive, because I honestly don't see the PS4 and the Xbox 3 making that big of a jump from their current specs (i.e. both systems have 512 MB of RAM. I don't expect them to have a 16x RAM increase for next gen, it just won't make sense)charizard1605

wow some one claims wii is weaker then ps2 ya give me a break kid, the gamecube had more power then a ps2 graphically re4 any body and wii is said to be an over clocked gamecube with that said , its pretty sad this un educated person thinks wii is less powerful then a ps2 ,

maybe if you played agent under fire /nightfire and put it against goldeneye youll see that wii is clearly more powerful especally in the snow levels ,

heck driver paralel lines even looks smoother on wii then ps2 ,

so with that said the wii 2 will be more powerful then this gen systems but guess what, ps4 720 aint comin til 2014-15 , with that said nintendos got a gaping 3 yr head start as well as 3 more years before what we know isthe wii 3 will be announced 6 yrs in to wii 2s life so that puts wii 3 3 yrs after 720 possibly ps4 , leap froging sony and ms ,

thank you please come again with rockstars support i dont think wii 2 will fail

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]4 GB of RAM seems to be optimum. It will also ensure that the system is competitive, because I honestly don't see the PS4 and the Xbox 3 making that big of a jump from their current specs (i.e. both systems have 512 MB of RAM. I don't expect them to have a 16x RAM increase for next gen, it just won't make sense)PC_Otter

[QUOTE="PC_Otter"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]4 GB of RAM seems to be optimum. It will also ensure that the system is competitive, because I honestly don't see the PS4 and the Xbox 3 making that big of a jump from their current specs (i.e. both systems have 512 MB of RAM. I don't expect them to have a 16x RAM increase for next gen, it just won't make sense)charizard1605

Truth be told, Wii 2 will have the same graphical power as Wii does, Nintendo knows very well that this is formula for success. Since Wii sold triple the amount of Gamecube with little to no hardware improvement, I predict the Wii 2 to once again outsell the Wii by at least three times of what 80 millions unit the Wii has sold with no major hardware improvement.

hoplayletsplay

If it will render games in true HD it will need to be a lot stronger than the Wii.

Think PSP vs 3DS and you have a picture how it will compare to the current systems.

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Mr Aime, this is the Cryteks

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Mr aime, we demand no less than 8 gigabytes of Random Access Memory in your new console and you will accept our engine graciously. Our dominance as the master race shall not be insulted

lol ok whatever bro, wrong number