Your feelings about the PSPs future? Failure or success?

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#1 Supernova_86
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Current Nintendo DS sales = 43 million. Current PSP sales = 22 million.

I was wondering what are your thoughts about the future of the PSP? A lot of people seem to have claimed that it was a total failure because it is selling poorly in comparison to the DS. It is true that the DS is outselling the PSP, but only on a 2:1 scale, which is small to me. The PS2 outsold the GameCube on a 5:1 scale, but that does not mean the GameCube was a failure. The GameCube sold 22 million in 5 years, whereas the PSP sold that same amount in 2.5 years, so it seems okay. Although I love the DS better, I still think th PSP is great and may consider getting one in the future, especially when FF7:Crisis Core and FF: Dissidia come out (yeah I am a hardcore FF/RPG fan, lol).

Here is my view on the PSP. Nintendo owned nearly all of the handheld gaming market before the PSP was introduced. After that, Nintendo lost 35% of that market share. Yes, the PSP has stolen one third of the handheld gaming market... a market that Ninendo had a chokehold on since 1989. That does not sound much like a "Failure" to me. If you owned a supermarket and lost 35% of your customers, you would feel angry too, because that is the exact same thing that the PSP has done to Nintendo.

Overall, I think the PSP is a moderate success. I still like the DS better, but I would love to see BOTH of the two handhelds get some popularity and expand the gaming population.

Your thoughts? :)

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Current Nintendo DS sales = 43 million. Current PSP sales = 22 million.

I was wondering what are your thoughts about the future of the PSP? A lot of people seem to have claimed that it was a total failure because it is selling poorly in comparison to the DS. It is true that the DS is outselling the PSP, but only on a 2:1 scale, which is small to me. The PS2 outsold the GameCube on a 5:1 scale, but that does not mean the GameCube was a failure. The GameCube sold 22 million in 5 years, whereas the PSP sold that same amount in 2.5 years, so it seems okay. Although I love the DS better, I still think th PSP is great and may consider getting one in the future, especially when FF7:Crisis Core and FF: Dissidia come out (yeah I am a hardcore FF/RPG fan, lol).

Here is my view on the PSP. Nintendo owned nearly all of the handheld gaming market before the PSP was introduced. After that, Nintendo lost 35% of that market share. Yes, the PSP has stolen one third of the handheld gaming market... a market that Ninendo had a chokehold on since 1989. That does not sound much like a "Failure" to me. If you owned a supermarket and lost 35% of your customers, you would feel angry too, because that is the exact same thing that the PSP has done to Nintendo.

Overall, I think the PSP is a moderate success. I still like the DS better, but I would love to see BOTH of the two handhelds get some popularity and expand the gaming population.

Your thoughts? :)

Supernova_86

It is selling poorly compared to the DS. That's true. But its not selling poorly for it to be a failure.

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#3 Supernova_86
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Yeah. You can compare ANY console to the DS and it will look like a failure in comparison to it. The DS is selling faster than the PS2, and the PS2 is not failure at all, selling 115 million units.
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#4 KirbyFan10101
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The PSP is doing very well.

Nintendo has been the handheld king for far too long. Its about time we saw some good competition in that field. Lets hope Sony drops the failed format crap in their next release.

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#5 volcus
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Apart from the UMD Movies the handheld has been a success. It seems likely now that sony are planning to release an updated psp, slimmer design and the possibility of 8gb flash memory. As for games, well as TC mentioned its a good year with game such as Wipeout Pulse, GOW, Syphon Filter 2, FF:CC and FF:T coming out.
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#6 bigLLL
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it's done really well 22ml in 2.5 years cmon thats great and as it gets cheaper the sales will just boost more and more, im almost to the point of buying one, soon as final fantasy crisis core comes out im sold, also will have to play killzone liberation
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#7 jsnepo
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Apart from the UMD Movies the handheld has been a success. It seems likely now that sony are planning to release an updated psp, slimmer design and the possibility of 8gb flash memory. As for games, well as TC mentioned its a good year with game such as Wipeout Pulse, GOW, Syphon Filter 2, FF:CC and FF:T coming out.volcus

WTF! 8GB flash memory?!

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#8 CQCmasta
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yeah, wtf is wrong wit some people saying its a total failure, its about to or probebly already has outsold the xbox 1 in half the xbox's 1s life, i wouldnt be surprised if the psp life ended with 50 million units in total or more, comeplete success considering nintendo has always dominated the handheld industry so strongly, it faired pretty damn well.
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i think it's going to have a steady succcess like it's already having, i think it will finis at 35 million, which is great!
however, the PSP is battling the DS, iPod, and every other game OR multimedia handhelds, and compared to the best..... it's not selling that well.
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#10 nintendo-4life
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Apart from the UMD Movies the handheld has been a success. It seems likely now that sony are planning to release an updated psp, slimmer design and the possibility of 8gb flash memory. As for games, well as TC mentioned its a good year with game such as Wipeout Pulse, GOW, Syphon Filter 2, FF:CC and FF:T coming out.volcus
i really don't see how an update can be a good ting when it comes to PSP, any smaller and it will damage the most beautiful part of the system, it's screen.
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#11 Supernova_86
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[QUOTE="volcus"]Apart from the UMD Movies the handheld has been a success. It seems likely now that sony are planning to release an updated psp, slimmer design and the possibility of 8gb flash memory. As for games, well as TC mentioned its a good year with game such as Wipeout Pulse, GOW, Syphon Filter 2, FF:CC and FF:T coming out.nintendo-4life
i really don't see how an update can be a good ting when it comes to PSP, any smaller and it will damage the most beautiful part of the system, it's screen.

I would assume that Sony will shrink the chipset of the PSP, while leaving the exterior the same size. Shrinking the PSP chipset will make the PSP cheaper to produce, as well as make it lighter and use less electricity, giving it more battery life.

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#12 Zenkuso
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Nintendo has taken out all its competition over the years in the handheld market, its not like the psp is the first to try. PSP however needs more of a game flow in its selection cause at the moment its basically got reharsh games from ps2 and thats it.
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I wouldnt call the psp a failure but the ds does kill it in sales. I think the psp is doing just fine, but again, because of the price on launch, this is why the numbers are low. Nintendo always sells there consoles and handhelds at a price that is consumer friendly and rarely u see any hardware problems with there product, this is why ppl buy it because the hardware is reliable and they got alot of exclusive titles to work with that so many fans love. I can never see nintendo ever get dethroned in the handheld world, but even with those numbers for the psp, its very impressive for sony, for there first handheld and because no one has ever even come close to nintendo in the handheld world. So to me that is success if u can atleast just meet them half way atleast.
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Compared to the DS it is a failure but then again comparing any console other than the PS2 to the DS is a failure.Actually considering this is Sony's first handheld they did a good job considering the competetion.

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how well do u guys reckon the psp would have done if it didnt have the playstation brand name behind it?
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#16 Supernova_86
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how well do u guys reckon the psp would have done if it didnt have the playstation brand name behind it?samusarmada

Not too good... but remember the Nintendo DS had the GBA backing it.

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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]how well do u guys reckon the psp would have done if it didnt have the playstation brand name behind it?Supernova_86

Not too good... but remember the Nintendo DS had the GBA backing it.

not really, the DS was the first of the handhelds to drop the "gameboy" name all together. Nintendo said that it was essentially a 3rd pillar of the nintendo consoles and that it was not the "next" gameboy.

Many thought that nintendo did this so that the "gameboy" heritage would not lose the handheld war to sony, and that they werent ready to release a new gameboy that could challenge sony.

If anything both handhelds entered the handheld war with little backing, the ds had only a vague heritage with the gba in its backward compatibility but few people in the public saw it as the next gameboy but rather as simply the "ds". And the psp entered with only the legacy of the playstation brand as heritage.

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its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

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its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

wavebrid

The Cube was not a failure at all. It was good. I bought the GameCube as a Christmas present for my nieces. :)

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its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

wavebrid

GC for me is a success. It brought Nintendo profit you know. Unlike the Xbox to Microsoft.

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#21 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"]

its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

jsnepo

GC for me is a success. It brought Nintendo profit you know. Unlike the Xbox to Microsoft.

im speaking "system wars logic"

in this case.

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#22 jsnepo
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[QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

wavebrid

GC for me is a success. It brought Nintendo profit you know. Unlike the Xbox to Microsoft.

im speaking "system wars logic"

in this case.

I know. I don't follow System Wars logic anyway.

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#23 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

jsnepo

GC for me is a success. It brought Nintendo profit you know. Unlike the Xbox to Microsoft.

im speaking "system wars logic"

in this case.

I know. I don't follow System Wars logic anyway.

Yea but as long as you post in here, than i guess we got no choice :cry:

i think psp is a good handheld. i just would never owned one i played it. not my thing, same thing with ds.

just dosent feel right

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#24 adio2190
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this is kinda like a trend going on Nintendo produce a better handheld that being the DS over the PSP and im sure it will continue because the Wii has outsold the PS3
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#25 jsnepo
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[QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="jsnepo"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

its a failure. Since cows and sony said it would destroy the ds.

that is system wars for it. it faild

But if cows want to think psp is a success than cube is a success as well

wavebrid

GC for me is a success. It brought Nintendo profit you know. Unlike the Xbox to Microsoft.

im speaking "system wars logic"

in this case.

I know. I don't follow System Wars logic anyway.

Yea but as long as you post in here, than i guess we got no choice :cry:

i think psp is a good handheld. i just would never owned one i played it. not my thing, same thing with ds.

just dosent feel right

Too true. If not for MGSPO, I wouldn't be interested in getting a PSP.

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#26 NorthlandMan
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it needs more gamers buying it. At the moment it has ok sales but no-one buys the games because the only people who really want it are little kids and homebrew people and neither have the will to buy games.

If they can sort out the redesing this year for a decent price the handheld will live for now. Otherwise its dead

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#27 Hoffgod
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The PSP was meant to be Sony's last triumph over the old-guard. It was to be Nintendo getting destroyed in the handheld market. It was supposed to, in the words of one Sony exec, "lift handheld gaming out of the gutter". Well, guess what. It hasn't. So the PSP isn't a success, and I would understand if people called the system a flop.

BUT! But, the system is still enjoying relatively strong sales and has a strong lineup which would appeal to many if they gave it a shot, so calling the system a failure is just foolish.

So is the PSP a success or a failure? Neither. It just is.
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I know three people with DS and two with PSP. The PSP people do not use theirs for games. I would say that in that light, it is a failure as a pure gaming system ( ne residual money for Sony thru game sales ). They like it as a media player, but that doesn't put any extra money into Sony's pocket.. In my opinion, the PSP is fighting on too many fronts ( media player and game system ) to truly win either, but still be an underdog contender in all of its fields.

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#29 Teuf_
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It's given me plenty of great games, and it looks like its still going to deliver more. The whole "downloadable music/movies" things was a huge bust, but as far as games are concerned I don't see how I could be disappointed.
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#30 Michael85
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It's not a total failure, unless you consider the GC to be a failure, since PSP's pretty much in the same boat as the GC.
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Sony comes out of leftfield with a handheld system and steals away nearly 50% of Nintendo's sales, the one and only company to ever do handheld console gaming right.

I'd say it's a great success.

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#32 osirisomeomi
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It's no failure. It's selling very well.
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#33 Teuf_
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It's not a total failure, unless you consider the GC to be a failure, since PSP's pretty much in the same boat as the GC.Michael85


The PSP is in an infinitely better position than the GCN. It's selling about 50% as many units as its competitor (as opposed to GCN selling 20% the amount of PS2's), and is actually maintaining a highly competitive game library with plenty of 3rd party support.
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I think the PSP is doing great since it was Sony's first shot at handhelds. I never did expect them to beat Nintendo, thereforeI am satisfied at what there dong. The only reason people call the PSP a flop is because they expected way to much out of it.. People were hypeing it to killthe DS(when I heard this I thought it was rather dumb). I am also enjoying my PSP and DS alot so I win either way even if one does fail. =)
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[QUOTE="Michael85"]It's not a total failure, unless you consider the GC to be a failure, since PSP's pretty much in the same boat as the GC.Teufelhuhn


The PSP is in an infinitely better position than the GCN. It's selling about 50% as many units as its competitor (as opposed to GCN selling 20% the amount of PS2's), and is actually maintaining a highly competitive game library with plenty of 3rd party support.

50%? It is BARELY selling half of what the DS is selling in the USA (thanks to the price cut) and it is practically irrelevant in Japan when compared to the DS. It's still a pretty huge failure but it's still stumbling along. Software sales are laughable and developer support has basically dropped off the map.

Overall it should reach about 30-40 million by the end of its life cycle which should put it on the same level of failure as the N64 (albeit with worse software sales) but the redesign could provide a much needed boost to both ahrdware and software sales. Alot of people (myself included) would buy a PSP straight away if the redesign can deliver on the multimedia promise of the original and fix Major issues like load times and broken controls. The games lineup for the future is pretty good with some stunning ports/remakes and some cool first and second partys stuff.

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I think the PSP is doing great since it was Sony's first shot at handhelds. I never did expect them to beat Nintendo, thereforeI am satisfied at what there dong. The only reason people call the PSP a flop is because they expected way to much out of it.. People were hypeing it to killthe DS(when I heard this I thought it was rather dumb). I am also enjoying my PSP and DS alot so I win either way even if one does fail. =)Hockey_Slayer

No it system wars rules and logic

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#37 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="Michael85"]It's not a total failure, unless you consider the GC to be a failure, since PSP's pretty much in the same boat as the GC.Teufelhuhn


The PSP is in an infinitely better position than the GCN. It's selling about 50% as many units as its competitor (as opposed to GCN selling 20% the amount of PS2's), and is actually maintaining a highly competitive game library with plenty of 3rd party support.

:lol: cows i thought we couldnt compare handhelds to consoles....

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#38 darkodonnie
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It is a decent attempt to break into the handheld market by Sony, so in that regard it will continue to be a success

in terms of ever coming close to the DS, there is almost no chance

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#39 wavebrid
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Sony comes out of leftfield with a handheld system and steals away nearly 50% of Nintendo's sales, the one and only company to ever do handheld console gaming right.

I'd say it's a great success.

0bscurity

no it hasnt or else there be very close right now :|

dang cows life in a dream world or what.

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#40 wavebrid
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It's no failure. It's selling very well.osirisomeomi

IN SYSTEM WARS ITS A FALIURE

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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]I think the PSP is doing great since it was Sony's first shot at handhelds. I never did expect them to beat Nintendo, thereforeI am satisfied at what there dong. The only reason people call the PSP a flop is because they expected way to much out of it.. People were hypeing it to killthe DS(when I heard this I thought it was rather dumb). I am also enjoying my PSP and DS alot so I win either way even if one does fail. =)wavebrid

No it system wars rules and logic


If you think the PSP is a flop your a fanboy. Its sony's first try in the handheld aginst Nintendo, I didn't expect them to beat them, and they never, but they are doing pretty good if you ask me..
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#42 flashattackfina
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PSP success why it outsold for 360 two months
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#43 NorthlandMan
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PSP success why it outsold for 360 two months flashattackfina

trrue, the price cut has done alot for it. But to make it relevant again it needs a redesign

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I wish people would buy more of the good games. There are a bunch of great games for the system , but people just aren't buying them like they should imo.

Sony has a chance to do more with a redesign and the download service along with a very good upcoming first party lineup , some good third party games , and future price drops.

PSP owners need to buy games. Crush , LocoRoco , Exit , Lumines , Field Commander , Megaman , Daxter , Syphon Filter , Killzone , MGS PO , and Riiiiiiidge Raaaaacerrrrr !!!! to name a few. Buy , buy , buy !!! Most of these games are cheap too. There is no excuse.

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#45 flashattackfina
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NorthlandMan you are right it needs a resign hey it work for the DS
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#46 NorthlandMan
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NorthlandMan you are right it needs a resign hey it work for the DSflashattackfina

Definately. people dont remember but the PSP was beating the DS slightly in the USA before the lite came out

and the PSP hardware is FAR more worse than the original DS. Alot of people refuse to touch one at all because of the intrinsically bad hardware

I wish people would buy more of the good games. There are a bunch of great games for the system , but people just aren't buying them like they should imo.

Nike_Air

I've said before, the PSP needs more gamers to buy it. At the moment the little kids and homebrewers buying it arent buying many games. The two things stopping gamers buying it at the moment is the broken hardware and the fact that the software is for the most part indistinguishable from the Ps2. sony fixes both of those problems and the PSP could yet challenge the DS for market dominance. Otherwise it's doomed to obscurity with the Game gear and the N-Gage

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#47 Rahnyc4
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the psp is a failure in software sales. for a system, that sold more than both wii and xbox360 combine, how come none of the psp big games ever make it to the 10 sold games in america? this should give you a idea, that he psp isnt being used for games, like the Ds. if it wasnt for the extra features in the psp, the system wouldnt even have sold 20 million
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#48 glitchgeeman
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Well honestly, I wouldn't consider it a failure sales-wise, but games-wise, for me, the PSP died a long time ago. I don't like playing console games on handhelds very often so the majority of the PSP's games don't appeal to me. However, I think tha tin the end, the PSP will be a moderate success, but will still be outsold 3:1 in the end by the DS if it continues to sell at its current rate.
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#49 glitchgeeman
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I wish people would buy more of the good games. There are a bunch of great games for the system , but people just aren't buying them like they should imo.

Sony has a chance to do more with a redesign and the download service along with a very good upcoming first party lineup , some good third party games , and future price drops.

PSP owners need to buy games. Crush , LocoRoco , Exit , Lumines , Field Commander , Megaman , Daxter , Syphon Filter , Killzone , MGS PO , and Riiiiiiidge Raaaaacerrrrr !!!! to name a few. Buy , buy , buy !!! Most of these games are cheap too. There is no excuse.

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I agree except for when you mentioned Field Commander. That game is god-awful and a disgrace to turn-based strategies everywhere. Anyone who likes that game as a TBS obviously never played Advance Wars.

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#50 jyoung312
Member since 2003 • 4971 Posts
liberation is awesome but incredibly frustratingly hard. the recently released infastructure online makes this game soo awesome.