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#1 xYamatox
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Video games are always changing. With each great game made, there are usually sequels to said game. Usually, sequels build off what it's predecessors started, but some games decide to take a whole new direction in it's gameplay. From these games that sort of "reinvent" itself, what are some of your favorite or most hated?

Personally, I love the direction Metal Gear Solid has gone with it's gameplay. There is still room for improvement, but I feel it's going in the right track.

My most hated would have to be Resident Evil. While I've put my fair amount of time in RE4/RE5, they simply don't compare to older RE games (for me personally).

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I dislike the move to 3D for Mario.

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#4 deathtarget04
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Favourite has to be Resident Evil. RE4 is one of my favourite games ever.

Hated has to be Halo Reach (Not hated but dissapointed) - Bungie seems to be watering down the franchise (Loadouts, bloom in weapons, weird assassinations and such)

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#6 SmittyPeppers
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Mortal Kombat, I definitely dislike what it became.
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#7 juden41
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My favorite reinvention is Ninja Gaiden, for sure. I'm still impressed and in love with it!
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#8 Espada12
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WoW: WOTLK.

Burning crusade had the correct amount of balance imo, vanilla was one extreme and wotlk has gone to another, hopefully cata goes back to be balanced.

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#9 Rhazakna
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Grand Theft Auto. The transition into 3D created a genre. Can't top that too well.
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#10 fastr
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can't think of alot of reinventions, but I'd have to say Splinter cell conviction, jack bouer style stealth, awesome.
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MY MOST HATED IS THE 3D SONIC GAMES. THE BEST REINVENTION IS SILENT HILL WII

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I think sonic colors will be the best one believe it.. but to answer the thread I would say super street fighter 4 works very good, best street fighter game I played since 2 I believe.
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WoW: WOTLK.

Burning crusade had the correct amount of balance imo, vanilla was one extreme and wotlk has gone to another, hopefully cata goes back to be balanced.

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You must be a resto druid..

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#13 Twin-Blade
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Favourite: RE series when it changed to RE4.

Disliked: Dawn of War 2 changes.

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#14 Chemical_Viking
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Favourite = GTA 3. It revolutionised gaming. Not sure on the worst yet. If Sonic had stayed in 2D I'm not sure I'd have still bothered with him because I've grown older so I'm not entirely sure 3D is the only problem, one of them might be me. I'll think of a better one.

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#15 Junior_AIN
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I hated what they made with Donkey Kong releasing several useless rhythm games, I hope they realize the dumb decision they made and bring back the good old platforming. I also hated what they made with Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4 was great, RE5 is good, but the sheer awesomeness of this series are the previous games, I think RE can live with both styles, the next one should go back to the roots, so they don't saturate the new style.
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#16 Chemical_Viking
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I hated what they made with Donkey Kong releasing several useless rhythm games, I hope they realize the dumb decision they made and bring back the good old platforming. I also hated what they made with Resident Evil, Resident Evil 4 was great, RE5 is good, but the sheer awesomeness of this series are the previous games, I think RE can live with both styles, the next one should go back to the roots, so they don't saturate the new style.Junior_AIN

Considering the car crash the series had become before 4 came along you should be grateful it saved the series. It was a complete joke at the time.

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#17 Jynxzor
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Most Hated, would have to be the RE series, I can't stand the series from 4 on they injected too much action and adrenaline into a Survival Horror game. I feel like I'm playing Two Crude Dudes *#1 manly game in all history* when I see Chris Redfield breaking out the gunshow. Hopefully they will give the Outbreak series another shot as I feel this online generation would be much more receptive of the idea. One of the first consol games on the PS2 to use that HDD besides FFXI.
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#18 flashn00b
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My least favorite would have to be the Vectorman reboot for the PS2. I'm glad that Sega cancelled the reboot. I just wish that Platinum Games would do something about the Vectorman series.

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#19 Respawn-d
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Favorite reinvention is motion done right

hated is motion done wrong

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Grand THeft Auto for all the influence it had once it went 3-D Metroid going from Super Metroid to Metroid Prime is just unfair how well it turned out. Ninja Gaiden to the glorious Ninja Gaiden on XBOX(which would peak at a new level with Ninja Gaiden Black). Best Hack n Slash EVER!! Resident Evil 4. Because the old RE games don't hold up. While I can still enjoy RE 4. Loss of horror and bastardization of survival aspects? yep. One of the great third person action games of all time? Absolutely. It was a trick that worked to great effect once(RE 4), but sadly it wasn't one capcom could build upon. Most hated? SOnic. He sucks now. Can't argue against that one.
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#21 PBSnipes
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Favourite- Probably Metropolitan Street Racer to Project Gotham Racing. Not that I ever played MSR, but PGR is pure class.

Unfavourite- Conviction, especially because the original Conviction, while certainly polarizing, had so much potential.

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Least favorite- Sonic 2006.
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Favourite- Probably Metropolitan Street Racer to Project Gotham Racing. Not that I ever played MSR, but PGR is pure class.

Unfavourite- Conviction, especially because the original Conviction, while certainly polarizing, had so much potential.

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Which is more than enough reason to believe that it was destined for a **** up considering it would have been an Ubisoft Montreal game.

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#24 PBSnipes
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Which is more than enough reason to believe that it was destined for a **** up considering it would have been an Ubisoft Montreal game.jg4xchamp

I'd rather take my chances with a potential **** up than a guaranteed **** up.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Which is more than enough reason to believe that it was destined for a **** up considering it would have been an Ubisoft Montreal game.PBSnipes

I'd rather take my chances with a potential **** up than a guaranteed **** up.

Nah the newer version looked like something they honestly couldn't Ubisoft up. Take Splintercell and make the shooting good. Simple, rehashish, but something that should work for the most part. Where as all the potential the other was all but destined for some heavy repetition(Ubisofts bread and butter this gen is freakin repetition. it's irritating) Then again I had blind faith that they could take the simple concept and not Ubisoft it, and ugh >_>
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favorite:

SWAT3 - turned the IP from weak RTS into brilliant tactical shooter series, one of the very best ever made.

Dawn of War 2: brought the game much closer to the style of original tabletop game

Settlers 7 - completely different from any previous game in the series and yet still amazing and deep city builder

Lord of the Realm 3 - I'm in minority here because it was quite dumbe down compared to LotR2, but I loved how unique it was. It was first working real-time 4X game and the biggest problem the game has was the fact that they decided to release it under Lords of the Realm name instead of creating new IP

hated:

RainbowSix: Vegas - the defining tactical shoooter series turned into mindless arcade nonsense

Panzer Elite Action - yeah...let's take a hardcore tank sim and make it a dumb arcade action game...great idea

Settlers 5 - turning economic managagment game into cliche RTS was just horrible idea.

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#27 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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I don't really care for the direction Mass Effect is heading (ME2 was still a fantastic game though), or WRPGs in general. The focus on action over role playing irritates me.

I dislike the move to 3D for Mario.

Yangire
I think the 3D Mario games are a lot more fun. :(
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

WoW: WOTLK.

Burning crusade had the correct amount of balance imo, vanilla was one extreme and wotlk has gone to another, hopefully cata goes back to be balanced.

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You must be a resto druid..

No I am actually a paladin!

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#29 Sword-Demon
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metroid's transition to 3d was flawless

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#30 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Hated:

Mortal Kombat games since they gone 3D

Resident Evil games since 4

C&C games since they gone 3D

Sonic games since they gone 3D

Not sure:

Street Fighter 4 - fine game, but previous games were better

Half-Life 2 episodes - should have been HL3 instead, also the series loses more of it's surrealistic atmosphere with each episode (gains character instead but I don't care much).

Oh god, it's easy to disappoint me :(

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I hated Empire Earth III's simplism compared to the complexity of the previous games.

I didn't like the changes in the new Red Faction game either.

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I dislike the move to 3D for Mario.

Yangire


Aside from the nostalgia I hold for Mario 64, I would agree with this.

As for the best "re-imaginings" I'd go with Metroid Prime/Echoes.

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#33 chocolate1325
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I have a few

Good transitions

Zelda well it brings a bit of color and life to the series with its characters

Resident Evil 4 practically reinvented the genre

Metroid more of an atmosphere

GTA yes I won't argue its much more free roaming

Worst transitions

Sonic: Sonic in 3D doesn't work why can't SEGA understand that.

Mortal Kombat: In 2D it was fun but lately they haven't been good

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#34 lloveLamp
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I hate how the Final Fantasy games have reinvented themselves ever since IX. X was horrible. I also am seriously pissed off that they ruined the resident evil atmoshphere by removing zombies and mansions. but i know im in the minority on that one so I won't complain
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#35 Anjunaddict
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Most hated in the direction Resident Evil went in with RE4/5. I don't hate RE4/5, they're brilliant games, but they hold nothing on the classics.
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#36 gingerdivid
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Least Favorite - Kings Quest: Mask of Eternity

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Metroid Prime was my favorite reinvention of a series.

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#38 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]I hate how the Final Fantasy games have reinvented themselves ever since IX. X was horrible. I also am seriously pissed off that they ruined the resident evil atmoshphere by removing zombies and mansions. but i know im in the minority on that one so I won't complain

If anything, you're in the majority. The backlash CAPCOM received for RE5 from the core gamebase was legendary.
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Hated: Prince of Persia (2008) WTF? They turned a series full of charm with challenging platforming and crazy acrobatic combat into a game that you can beat while sleeping that with simple platforming (automatic almost) and flashy repetitive combos. UGH

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#40 Seabas989
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Favorite reinvention:

  • Metroid Prime
  • Ninja Gaiden (Xbox)
  • Resident Evil 4
  • Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

Hated reinvention:

  • Mortal Kombat in 3D
  • Sonic in 3D (loved the DC games but the Genesis/CD Sonic games are still superior)
  • DRIV3R
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#41 princeofshapeir
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Super Smash Bros. Brawl, from a game that supported competitive tournament play, to a button-mashing scrubfest where match outcomes are decided by which character you play as, and one character in particular is god-tier.
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Castlevania games in 3D sucks, I hope they get it right this time

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Resident Evil 4, hated the series before that game.
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Resident Evil 4, hated the series before that game.web966
I agree. I'm not in favor of sacrificing gameplay for "scariness" (the RE games were never very scary at all to begin with). Gameplay in a game should always be the main attraction, and RE4 was a step in the right direction.
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#45 sleepingzzz
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Final Fantasy is by far the worst.

Bionic Commando is also up there

I would say Mario, Zelda and Metroid did it the best.

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#46 lucfonzy
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Pretty much every 3D sonic game sucks.

Also i hated the change from the art style of GTA. Nuber 3, Vice City and San Andreas (including all of the "stories") looked great, GTA 4 looked WHACK.

My favourite reinvention of a series has to be Street Fighter 4, it's simply amazing. They kept the original fighting style, all the same moves that everybody loved but moved onto a brand new art style which was astounding.

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#47 dark-warmachine
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My favorite reinventions areResident Evil 4, Ninja Gaiden, Metal Gear and Prince of Persia

I most disliked Zelda's, Metroid's, Mario's, Metal Slug's 3Dand Contra's 2.5D reinvention.

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MY MOST HATED IS THE 3D SONIC GAMES. THE BEST REINVENTION IS SILENT HILL WII

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Meh I thought the worst reinvention is Silent Hill. I haven't played 4 much, but the sequels after it are not good.
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#49 gugler990
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Resident evil 5

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Command and conquer 4 really sucked.