For over 2000 hours, a youtuber left his Switch OLED on with a static in game screenshot from Zelda Breath of the Wild. And thanks to Nintendo's superior build quality, the Switch OLED survives and impresses even the worlds biggest doubters. The youtuber says he will continue to test the quality of the Legends of gaming for as long as he can. We thank you for your service brother Wulff, keep up the great work.
YouTuber preforms the ultimate Swith OLED Burnin test
And y’all were worried.
The Swoled is great.
:P
Well I guess this puts an end to that silly nonsense. 😜
Good for him i guess.
Imagine believing that Samsung made some alien tech oled screens for the $350 Switch that doesn't burn in🤦♂️
Not only that, but there was a difference in the white on the ceiling AND his test was on a screenshot, not gameplay.🤷♂️
But if you're an OLED owner, and you need to something to help you out when going to bed, you can always watch this video and tell yourself that the Switch oled is a new technology that doesn't burn in😆But when it does burn in, please pretend that it didn't.
@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen: Your wrong again mate. Better luck next time.
Switch oled uses alien tech that doesn't burn in?
@hardwenzen said:
Imagine believing that Samsung made some alien tech oled screens for the $350 Switch that doesn't burn in🤦♂️
Not only that, but there was a difference in the white on the ceiling AND his test was on a screenshot, not gameplay.🤷♂️
But if you're an OLED owner, and you need to something to help you out when going to bed, you can always watch this video and tell yourself that the Switch oled is a new technology that doesn't burn in😆But when it does burn in, please pretend that it didn't.
It's not a new tech. OLED just improves over time, like all tech, and burn-in takes more and more time. I believe that Switch's OLED is about a generation behind, meaning it's rated at about 10-15k hours before degradation. As an example, I have an OLED phone with 0 burn-in after over a year. The misunderstanding here from both you and this test is that the image on the screen is not what causes burn-in; it's just wear on the pixels themselves. Even if you had a single static image the whole time, or the image on screen completely changed with every frame the rate of burn-in would not change. The only variables that have an effect are time and brightness. You're thinking of image retention, which is not permanent.
I guess you got burned with a Vita and assumed that's just all OLED panels forever, but that's not the case. That said, there tends to be a lot of QC variance, so there are some cases where the screen will burn-in in a year or two, and others where it'll fine in 10 years.
An OLED television is a big investment. You don't want the image quality to decrease significantly after only a couple of years. Online sources claim that the lifespan of an OLED panel is limited. The colors of the screen would no longer be accurate after a couple of years due to the decreasing intensity of the blue pixels. Nonsense. The LG OLED screens don't experience this problem at all. The pixels provide white light, that turns into a color with a filter. LG states their OLED TVs have a lifespan of 30,000 hours, which is equal to watching TV 3 hours per day, for 27 years.
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/myths-about-oled-tv.html
And no, the OLED isn't secretly using a CRT.
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:
Imagine believing that Samsung made some alien tech oled screens for the $350 Switch that doesn't burn in🤦♂️
Not only that, but there was a difference in the white on the ceiling AND his test was on a screenshot, not gameplay.🤷♂️
But if you're an OLED owner, and you need to something to help you out when going to bed, you can always watch this video and tell yourself that the Switch oled is a new technology that doesn't burn in😆But when it does burn in, please pretend that it didn't.
It's not a new tech. OLED just improves over time, like all tech, and burn-in takes more and more time. I believe that Switch's OLED is about a generation behind, meaning it's rated at about 10-15k hours before degradation. As an example, I have an OLED phone with 0 burn-in after over a year. The misunderstanding here from both you and this test is that the image on the screen is not what causes burn-in; it's just wear on the pixels themselves. Even if you had a single static image the whole time, or the image on screen completely changed with every frame the rate of burn-in would not change. The only variables that have an effect are time and brightness. You're thinking of image retention, which is not permanent.
I guess you got burned with a Vita and assumed that's just all OLED panels forever, but that's not the case. That said, there tends to be a lot of QC variance, so there are some cases where the screen will burn-in in a year or two, and others where it'll fine in 10 years.
An OLED television is a big investment. You don't want the image quality to decrease significantly after only a couple of years. Online sources claim that the lifespan of an OLED panel is limited. The colors of the screen would no longer be accurate after a couple of years due to the decreasing intensity of the blue pixels. Nonsense. The LG OLED screens don't experience this problem at all. The pixels provide white light, that turns into a color with a filter. LG states their OLED TVs have a lifespan of 30,000 hours, which is equal to watching TV 3 hours per day, for 27 years.
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/myths-about-oled-tv.html
And no, the OLED isn't secretly using a CRT.
I knew you would instantly spot my post.
OLED tech improves, but it does not matter, its not yet in the lcd's category that IF there's any burn in, it will take almost a decade of usage. And no, i am not referring to image retention, that's completely different. Nintendo's strategy is smart, tho. They release the OLED not too long before the next Switch, so when everyone begins to get all the burn in, people will already have their eyes on the new hot thing, the Switch 2, and not many will care about what's happening with the Switch Oled.
If the original Switch came out with an oled screen... oof.
@hardwenzen: I'm an oled switch owner and never had worries. Every phone out there is an oled display. And Samsung if anyone knows how to make phones. This whole thing is over blown.
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen: I'm an oled switch owner and never had worries. Every phone out there is an oled display. And Samsung if anyone knows how to make phones. This whole thing is over blown.
Who keeps their phone for over a year? Not many. Nor do you play games on one. Phones are a poor example (not to mention that there's a plenty of examples of severe burn in on phones).
@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen: I'm an oled switch owner and never had worries. Every phone out there is an oled display. And Samsung if anyone knows how to make phones. This whole thing is over blown.
Who keeps their phone for over a year? Not many. Nor do you play games on one. Phones are a poor example (not to mention that there's a plenty of examples of severe burn in on phones).
...lots of people play games on their phone what the heck. I've never had burn in issue on my phone, and don't know anyone who has. Your hot takes are piling up. Also with the switch, if you turn down the brightness, then you won't have issues either, though the oled switch naturally doesn't get too bright even if you do turn up the slider. Its one of the annoying points about the oled actually and I think nintendo purposely put a limiter on the brightness to prevent the burn in issue. Also theres another thing they did. If you even leave the switch on for 30 seconds without any input, the game screen turns off.
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen: I'm an oled switch owner and never had worries. Every phone out there is an oled display. And Samsung if anyone knows how to make phones. This whole thing is over blown.
Who keeps their phone for over a year? Not many. Nor do you play games on one. Phones are a poor example (not to mention that there's a plenty of examples of severe burn in on phones).
...lots of people play games on their phone what the heck. I've never had burn in issue on my phone, and don't know anyone who has. Your hot takes are piling up. Also with the switch, if you turn down the brightness, then you won't have issues either, though the oled switch naturally doesn't get too bright even if you do turn up the slider. Its one of the annoying points about the oled actually and I think nintendo purposely put a limiter on the brightness to prevent the burn in issue. Also theres another thing they did. If you even leave the switch on for 30 seconds without any input, the game screen turns off.
So lets buy an oled screen and lower its brightness so it looks like an lcd screen. Good idea😊
Nobody uses their phone to play games the same amount as you would on consoles or pc. Maybe in Japan? But if portable systems is all they care about, you can bet your ass they're "upgrading" every single year. Nobody keeps a phone for 5-8 years lmao.
@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen: I'm an oled switch owner and never had worries. Every phone out there is an oled display. And Samsung if anyone knows how to make phones. This whole thing is over blown.
Who keeps their phone for over a year? Not many. Nor do you play games on one. Phones are a poor example (not to mention that there's a plenty of examples of severe burn in on phones).
...lots of people play games on their phone what the heck. I've never had burn in issue on my phone, and don't know anyone who has. Your hot takes are piling up. Also with the switch, if you turn down the brightness, then you won't have issues either, though the oled switch naturally doesn't get too bright even if you do turn up the slider. Its one of the annoying points about the oled actually and I think nintendo purposely put a limiter on the brightness to prevent the burn in issue. Also theres another thing they did. If you even leave the switch on for 30 seconds without any input, the game screen turns off.
So lets buy an oled screen and lower its brightness so it looks like an lcd screen. Good idea😊
Nobody uses their phone to play games the same amount as you would on consoles or pc. Maybe in Japan? But if portable systems is all they care about, you can bet your ass they're "upgrading" every single year. Nobody keeps a phone for 5-8 years lmao.
well you would be surprised, but many do spend an hour or so on the phone playing games. BTW, if the oled switch, which last I checked was going for $350, lasts you 5-8 years then it has been worth it. Even if it lasts 3 years, you come out ahead. Forget the oled, but consoles crapping out for various reasons is almost a given nowadays. 5 to 8 years my ass...thats another hot take of yours.
I won't keep my oled that long. I'll probably sell it in 2 years to get the new switch.
@techhog89: Honestly I would have ignored him, clearly @hardwenzen is an idi** who does not understand how the technology works, nor has had the pleasure of gaming on an OLED. Hell, he plays a PS5 on a damn 1440p monitor, which is is sad for someone who seems to constantly tout the power of the PS5. Dude is just jealous that he can only has a PS5 and no other system.
Anyway, back on topic, yes there is a risk of burn-in, but it takes a long time and tends to happen in certain scenarios only (say only watching the news when you have the brightness set to 100%). If one simply varies the content, the risk of burn in (which itself is a misnomer) should not be a major issue during the lifetime of the product. The benefits of an OLED screen (colors, contrast, pure blacks) significantly outweight, imo, the risks (since sure even if it may burn in after say 15000 hours, that is the equivalent of using something daily for eight hours for over 5 years, which at this point, the new console, or new phone, or new TV is out so its time to upgrade anyway). The more pertinent question is, is the Switch OLED worth the extra $50. If you do not have a Switch yet and also intend to use it as both portable and docked, imo yes. However, if you already have a regular Switch, then imo the $350 to upgrade aint worth it.
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen: I'm an oled switch owner and never had worries. Every phone out there is an oled display. And Samsung if anyone knows how to make phones. This whole thing is over blown.
Who keeps their phone for over a year? Not many. Nor do you play games on one. Phones are a poor example (not to mention that there's a plenty of examples of severe burn in on phones).
...lots of people play games on their phone what the heck. I've never had burn in issue on my phone, and don't know anyone who has. Your hot takes are piling up. Also with the switch, if you turn down the brightness, then you won't have issues either, though the oled switch naturally doesn't get too bright even if you do turn up the slider. Its one of the annoying points about the oled actually and I think nintendo purposely put a limiter on the brightness to prevent the burn in issue. Also theres another thing they did. If you even leave the switch on for 30 seconds without any input, the game screen turns off.
So lets buy an oled screen and lower its brightness so it looks like an lcd screen. Good idea😊
Nobody uses their phone to play games the same amount as you would on consoles or pc. Maybe in Japan? But if portable systems is all they care about, you can bet your ass they're "upgrading" every single year. Nobody keeps a phone for 5-8 years lmao.
well you would be surprised, but many do spend an hour or so on the phone playing games. BTW, if the oled switch, which last I checked was going for $350, lasts you 5-8 years then it has been worth it. Even if it lasts 3 years, you come out ahead. Forget the oled, but consoles crapping out for various reasons is almost a given nowadays. 5 to 8 years my ass...thats another hot take of yours.
I won't keep my oled that long. I'll probably sell it in 2 years to get the new switch.
But who said that it will last you 5-8y? Unless you're a casual that barely uses it, i expect it to have burn in within 1.6-2y. And you keeping it for 2y is exactly what i stated above. Nintendo released it within ~2y of the Switch2 launch, so when the majority begin to have burn in issues, everyone will have their eyes on the new Switch, and none will care what's happening to the Switch oled. Nintendo knows how to scam.
@tribesjah said:
Honestly I would have ignored him, clearly @hardwenzen is an idi** who does not understand how the technology works, nor has had the pleasure of gaming on an OLED. Hell, he plays a PS5 on a damn 1440p monitor, which is is sad for someone who seems to constantly tout the power of the PS5. Dude is just jealous that he can only has a PS5 and no other system.
Anyway, back on topic, yes there is a risk of burn-in, but it takes a long time and tends to happen in certain scenarios only (say only watching the news when you have the brightness set to 100%). If one simply varies the content, the risk of burn in (which itself is a misnomer) should not be a major issue during the lifetime of the product. The benefits of an OLED screen (colors, contrast, pure blacks) significantly outweight, imo, the risks (since sure even if it may burn in after say 15000 hours, that is the equivalent of using something daily for eight hours for over 5 years, which at this point, the new console, or new phone, or new TV is out so its time to upgrade anyway). The more pertinent question is, is the Switch OLED worth the extra $50. If you do not have a Switch yet and also intend to use it as both portable and docked, imo yes. However, if you already have a regular Switch, then imo the $350 to upgrade aint worth it.
I would like you to sit down, relax and tell me how its sad to use a quality 1440p monitor on a ps5 or any other consoles for that matter. Do not rage at me. Relax. I want an explanation, and at the same time, i would like to remind you that most streamers use monitors on their consoles as well, so please, for the love of god, please tell me how i and a shitload of other people are idiots for using a monitor instead of a tv.
1. 2. 3. GO!
@hardwenzen: lmao...bs as usual. I guess all those people with oled tvs, they upgrade every other year bc of burn in right?? Or the vita that have been out for 12 years, they all burn in. Theres 3 things going for switch. Nintendo limited the brightness, they have auto screen shut off, and finally the switch is hybrid, where half the time the console will be played through the TV. I'm confident my switch oled screen will be fine for the life of the hardware. I'm more worried about the other components failing well before the oled craps out.
@hardwenzen:
Reading comprehension is not your strength I see. I never stated it is sad to use a monitor when playing a console, I simply stated it is sad for (based on the posts of yours I have seen) someone who sounds like a gfx whore who makes fun of other systems and how "bad" games look on them, to not only use a PS5 on a 1440p monitor (not even taking proper advantage of PS5 capability, especially since the PS5 does not support 1440p), but also does not so HDR/proper HDR (there isn't a single 1440p monitor, outside the Samsung 49 Neo QLED G9 as far as I am aware, that can do HDR)
Furthermore, do not see how console streamers are relevant in this conversation. Not to mention the fact that there are very few of them (most streamers are on PC...)
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@hardwenzen: lmao...bs as usual. I guess all those people with oled tvs, they upgrade every other year bc of burn in right?? Or the vita that have been out for 12 years, they all burn in. Theres 3 things going for switch. Nintendo limited the brightness, they have auto screen shut off, and finally the switch is hybrid, where half the time the console will be played through the TV. I'm confident my switch oled screen will be fine for the life of the hardware. I'm more worried about the other components failing well before the oled craps out.
No. All those people using the oled tv's use the pixel refresher which wears out all the pixels around it to look equal🤷♂️Which gets you a poorer picture than what it was originally. No point of trying to damage control the innevitable burn in. YOU will have it😊
@tribesjah said:
@hardwenzen:
Reading comprehension is not your strength I see. I never stated it is sad to use a monitor when playing a console, I simply stated it is sad for (based on the posts of yours I have seen) someone who sounds like a gfx whore who makes fun of other systems and how "bad" games look on them, to not only use a PS5 on a 1440p monitor (not even taking proper advantage of PS5 capability, especially since the PS5 does not support 1440p), but also does not so HDR/proper HDR (there isn't a single 1440p monitor, outside the Samsung 49 Neo QLED G9 as far as I am aware, that can do HDR)
Furthermore, do not see how console streamers are relevant in this conversation. Not to mention the fact that there are very few of them (most are on PC...)
What proper advantage of the ps5 are you referring to? Most games running in performance mode, the only mode worth using, run at exactly 1440p or very close to it🤦♂️Yes, missing HDR is a thing, but if its a deal breaker to you, then stay far away from pc gaming lmao.
If a console streamer who does this for living is using a good monitor instead of a tv, i think i can live with a monitor. In years, never have i used a monitor and told myself that it'd be great to have a tv right now. Bet you that a game running at ~1440p on a 27" 1440p monitor will look sharper than on a 50" tv🤷♂️because of pixel density. Nice try, tho😂
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:
Imagine believing that Samsung made some alien tech oled screens for the $350 Switch that doesn't burn in🤦♂️
Not only that, but there was a difference in the white on the ceiling AND his test was on a screenshot, not gameplay.🤷♂️
But if you're an OLED owner, and you need to something to help you out when going to bed, you can always watch this video and tell yourself that the Switch oled is a new technology that doesn't burn in😆But when it does burn in, please pretend that it didn't.
It's not a new tech. OLED just improves over time, like all tech, and burn-in takes more and more time. I believe that Switch's OLED is about a generation behind, meaning it's rated at about 10-15k hours before degradation. As an example, I have an OLED phone with 0 burn-in after over a year. The misunderstanding here from both you and this test is that the image on the screen is not what causes burn-in; it's just wear on the pixels themselves. Even if you had a single static image the whole time, or the image on screen completely changed with every frame the rate of burn-in would not change. The only variables that have an effect are time and brightness. You're thinking of image retention, which is not permanent.
I guess you got burned with a Vita and assumed that's just all OLED panels forever, but that's not the case. That said, there tends to be a lot of QC variance, so there are some cases where the screen will burn-in in a year or two, and others where it'll fine in 10 years.
An OLED television is a big investment. You don't want the image quality to decrease significantly after only a couple of years. Online sources claim that the lifespan of an OLED panel is limited. The colors of the screen would no longer be accurate after a couple of years due to the decreasing intensity of the blue pixels. Nonsense. The LG OLED screens don't experience this problem at all. The pixels provide white light, that turns into a color with a filter. LG states their OLED TVs have a lifespan of 30,000 hours, which is equal to watching TV 3 hours per day, for 27 years.
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/myths-about-oled-tv.html
And no, the OLED isn't secretly using a CRT.
I knew you would instantly spot my post.
OLED tech improves, but it does not matter, its not yet in the lcd's category that IF there's any burn in, it will take almost a decade of usage. And no, i am not referring to image retention, that's completely different. Nintendo's strategy is smart, tho. They release the OLED not too long before the next Switch, so when everyone begins to get all the burn in, people will already have their eyes on the new hot thing, the Switch 2, and not many will care about what's happening with the Switch Oled.
If the original Switch came out with an oled screen... oof.
Actually I replied to your post because there was no other post worth replying to at the time. I was trying to avoid it honestly since I knew you'd just move the goalpost and... Well, here we are. And I'm saying that you mixed up the cause of burn-in with the cause of image retention.
Honestly, I'm impressed with Nintendo's QC here. Usually there are a few faulty units that burn in within a few weeks, but so far there have been 0 reports.
@hardwenzen said:
@tribesjah said:
@hardwenzen:
Reading comprehension is not your strength I see. I never stated it is sad to use a monitor when playing a console, I simply stated it is sad for (based on the posts of yours I have seen) someone who sounds like a gfx whore who makes fun of other systems and how "bad" games look on them, to not only use a PS5 on a 1440p monitor (not even taking proper advantage of PS5 capability, especially since the PS5 does not support 1440p), but also does not so HDR/proper HDR (there isn't a single 1440p monitor, outside the Samsung 49 Neo QLED G9 as far as I am aware, that can do HDR)
Furthermore, do not see how console streamers are relevant in this conversation. Not to mention the fact that there are very few of them (most are on PC...)
What proper advantage of the ps5 are you referring to? Most games running in performance mode, the only mode worth using, run at exactly 1440p or very close to it🤦♂️Yes, missing HDR is a thing, but if its a deal breaker to you, then stay far away from pc gaming lmao.
If a console streamer who does this for living is using a good monitor instead of a tv, i think i can live with a monitor. In years, never have i used a monitor and told myself that it'd be great to have a tv right now. Bet you that a game running at ~1440p on a 27" 1440p monitor will look sharper than on a 50" tv🤷♂️because of pixel density. Nice try, tho😂
The PS5 lets you select 4k output when connected to a 1440p screen?
@techhog89:Be honest. You cannot live without me. If i wasn't posting, you'd depressed as hell.
@techhog89:"The PS5 lets you select 4k output when connected to a 1440p screen?"
Why is this still a question over a year later?! YES, you can use the 4k output if your monitor support hdmi2.0 or newer. How do you think i am using the damn 1440p monitor? If you couldn't do this, the image being downgraded to 1080p on a 1440p monitor looks so shitty that i would've bought a 4k tv or monitor the first week the ps5 was released.
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89:Be honest. You cannot live without me. If i wasn't posting, you'd depressed as hell.
@techhog89:"The PS5 lets you select 4k output when connected to a 1440p screen?"
Why is this still a question over a year later?! YES, you can use the 4k output if your monitor support hdmi2.0 or newer. How do you think i am using the damn 1440p monitor? If you couldn't do this, the image being downgraded to 1080p on a 1440p monitor looks so shitty that i would've bought a 4k tv or monitor the first week the ps5 was released.
Dude it was a genuine question lol. That's cool and good to know.
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89:Be honest. You cannot live without me. If i wasn't posting, you'd depressed as hell.
@techhog89:"The PS5 lets you select 4k output when connected to a 1440p screen?"
Why is this still a question over a year later?! YES, you can use the 4k output if your monitor support hdmi2.0 or newer. How do you think i am using the damn 1440p monitor? If you couldn't do this, the image being downgraded to 1080p on a 1440p monitor looks so shitty that i would've bought a 4k tv or monitor the first week the ps5 was released.
Dude it was a genuine question lol. That's cool and good to know.
I am pissed off right now, and its all your fault.
@hardwenzen:
All I am hearing here are excuses and/or justifications without an understanding of underlying reasons.
You do not even have the option to properly play in quality mode then, you have to default to performance mode since you can't take proper advantage of quality mode. Second, not everything comes with the two modes now, nor is there any guarantee of it coming in the future. Hell I am guessing as the Gen goes on, many games will go back to just providing the one (default) choice. But regardless, essentially you are severely compromised on how you can use your console...surprising for a gfx wh***
Monitors do not have the greatest image quality (with some exceptions) compared to good TVs still. I know this since I am primarily a PC gamer and AV enthusiast. Most monitors do not even have local dimming (and some that do have a negligeable zone counts, like my old Samsung CHG70). And lol clearly you have never tried HDR with PC gaming, it works. Not as well as on consoles granted but the gap has closed. Have not had any issues on my end tbh with a 48 C1 that I use as a monitor. As for PPI argument, again grasping for straws and trying to make justifications on as to why you game on a monitor with a PS5...PPI is meaningless in isolation, have to take into account viewing distance as well. One sits much further away from a TV than from a monitor.
Last, using streamers as a justification still makes little sense. First, there are next to no big console streamers. Second, a streaming setup (camera placement, etc) is easier to do with desk and monitor. Third, they probably want to sit extra close to a screen because they play competitively (which is important for keeping subscribers). Regardless, you fit none of those, you do not play for a living and given its a PS5, there are tons of games that are SP only anyway. You probably don't stream, so you don't need to be at a desk.
Anyway again more bs justifications why you are on a monitor instead of a TV, without truly admitting the real reason...lying to us and even yourself. Then again, didn't expect much from a broke fanboy who just has one system and shi*s on all the other susyems.
@BassMan:
Man that does sound amazing. Perfect size too as a monitor. About time they started making some OLED monitors, and this being QD OLED, the potential for color volume, brightness and low black levels is amazing. Hoping this is a start of more coming. Had to get an OLED TV as a monitor since most monitors IQ wise are meh (except a few). The lg is good but a tad bit too large imo. Great for gaming/movies but not always ideal for productivity.
Only issue is I am guessing the first Gen of this product may have issues and early adopters will be guinea pigs/beta testers. Coupled with the fact that they will probably be extremely expensive (my guess is $2500 or even more). But a step in right direction anyway since LG WOLED has its own issues which QD OLED seems to solve.
@tribesjah said:
@BassMan:
Man that does sound amazing. Perfect size too as a monitor. About time they started making some OLED monitors, and this being QD OLED, the potential for color volume, brightness and low black levels is amazing. Hoping this is a start of more coming. Had to get an OLED TV as a monitor since most monitors IQ wise are meh (except a few). The lg is good but a tad bit too large imo. Great for gaming/movies but not always ideal for productivity.
Only issue is I am guessing the first Gen of this product may have issues and early adopters will be guinea pigs/beta testers. Coupled with the fact that they will probably be extremely expensive (my guess is $2500 or even more). But a step in right direction anyway since LG WOLED has its own issues which QD OLED seems to solve.
Yeah, it looks amazing. I currently have Alienware AW3418DW and would love to upgrade it to this new OLED one. I also have my PC hooked up to my LG C9 OLED, but I use the AW as my main desktop display. The IPS panel it uses is good, but it is no match for the OLED. I always dreamed of an ultrawide OLED and it has finally come true. :)
@tribesjah said:
@hardwenzen:
All I am hearing here are excuses and/or justifications without an understanding of underlying reasons.
You do not even have the option to properly play in quality mode then, you have to default to performance mode since you can't take proper advantage of quality mode. Second, not everything comes with the two modes now, nor is there any guarantee of it coming in the future. Hell I am guessing as the Gen goes on, many games will go back to just providing the one (default) choice. But regardless, essentially you are severely compromised on how you can use your console...surprising for a gfx wh***
Monitors do not have the greatest image quality (with some exceptions) compared to good TVs still. I know this since I am primarily a PC gamer and AV enthusiast. Most monitors do not even have local dimming (and some that do have a negligeable zone counts, like my old Samsung CHG70). And lol clearly you have never tried HDR with PC gaming, it works. Not as well as on consoles granted but the gap has closed. Have not had any issues on my end tbh with a 48 C1 that I use as a monitor. As for PPI argument, again grasping for straws and trying to make justifications on as to why you game on a monitor with a PS5...PPI is meaningless in isolation, have to take into account viewing distance as well. One sits much further away from a TV than from a monitor.
Last, using streamers as a justification still makes little sense. First, there are next to no big console streamers. Second, a streaming setup (camera placement, etc) is easier to do with desk and monitor. Third, they probably want to sit extra close to a screen because they play competitively (which is important for keeping subscribers). Regardless, you fit none of those, you do not play for a living and given its a PS5, there are tons of games that are SP only anyway. You probably don't stream, so you don't need to be at a desk.
Anyway again more bs justifications why you are on a monitor instead of a TV, without truly admitting the real reason...lying to us and even yourself. Then again, didn't expect much from a broke fanboy who just has one system and shi*s on all the other susyems.
Who-Whats-To-Play-In-Quality-Mode aka 30fps? This is not an option. They can remove it completely and i wouldn't even notice. You probably didn't even knew that a game running in quality mode (native 4k) will look sharper on a 1440p screen than a 1440p game on a 1440p screen🤷♂️
Nobody cares if the monitor image quality is as good as the best tv there is. Even those using a 4k tv, most aren't on a $2k+ tv from lg or samsung🤦♂️
Nobody is referring to console only streamers. There's something called being a variety streamer that uses all systems. Games look perfectly fine on a monitor, you don't need to moan about it. Talking about competitive multiplayer to make a point is real😂
Reading your last paragraph, i see someone frustrated and mad, and i have never even seen you on SW😂
@BassMan:
Yeah I completely understand that. Before I replaced my Samsung CHG70 (which had issues such as vrr gamma flicker and imo meh IQ, even though on paper it's good) with the 48 C1, I used to have my PC also connected to my Hisense U8G. However I barely used it with my PC since it was just a pain to use that way (having to get up, choose app, its quite inconvenient). Plus couldn't do 120hz with it since long cable runs with Hdmi 2.1 don't seem to work particularly well or be particularly stable, so had to do 60hz, which isn't ideal). Anyway I understand why you mainly use your monitor.
@tribesjah: My OLED is used often with the PC, but mostly for controller gaming and watching movies. You need to buy a fiber cable to avoid issues with long HDMI 2.1 cable runs. I bought a 50ft RUIPRO cable and it works flawlessly. 4K/120hz HDR G-Sync RGB FULL with no handshaking issues. It is expensive, but it is worth it to avoid any headaches.
https://www.amazon.ca/RUIPRO-Dynamic-Flexible-Projector-Theatre/dp/B081SHJJ3C?th=1
@Gatygun said:
Dude is full of shit, if it didn't burn it its not a oled panel simple as that.
Oled screens all of them will burn in, its just a matter of time.
wow, I thought only hardwarenzen was spreading bs around, but I guess its more common than I thought. The switch oled screen won't suffer any kind of burn in. Thats just a fact.
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@Gatygun said:
Dude is full of shit, if it didn't burn it its not a oled panel simple as that.
Oled screens all of them will burn in, its just a matter of time.
wow, I thought only hardwarenzen was spreading bs around, but I guess its more common than I thought. The switch oled screen won't suffer any kind of burn in. Thats just a fact.
Oled burns in that's the fact, u believing in fairy tales is just you believing in it. Every single oled screen will burn in no matter if you like it or not.
@BassMan:
Thank you for that, yeah I remember reading/hearing that fiber is the way to go. Just was not sure whether the high price is worth it for me (as in if I would use it) but it would def be nice to be able to play some games from the couch rather than from the desk. Plus, as much as I like OLEDs, the one big downside (imo) is the lower peak brightness (my hisense can hit I think like 1600 -1900 nits while OLEDs are more in line with 800nits, granted the hisense has its own issues, namely blooming and not the greatest black uniformity, granted that's a problem with any VA) so it would be nice to be able to have that brightness sometimes.
Anyway thanks again will def consider, just need to convince myself that the price is justifiable lol
@Gatygun said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@Gatygun said:
Dude is full of shit, if it didn't burn it its not a oled panel simple as that.
Oled screens all of them will burn in, its just a matter of time.
wow, I thought only hardwarenzen was spreading bs around, but I guess its more common than I thought. The switch oled screen won't suffer any kind of burn in. Thats just a fact.
Oled burns in that's the fact, u believing in fairy tales is just you believing in it. Every single oled screen will burn in no matter if you like it or not.
not really...it depends on how you take care of it. Many people have 10 year old phones with oled screens with no burn in issue. Some have 10 year old ps vitas with no burn in issue. If you are the average gamer, who has at most 1 hour gaming sessions, and plays at lower brightness setting, then I doubt you will see any kind of burn in. Did you even watch the video?? The guy just tested for 3 months straight and no evidence of burn in on the switch. 3 months STRAIGHT on MAX brightness. Hes doing everything he can to push a burn in on to the switch and he hasn't been able to do it yet.
How do you think it will go for the rest of us, who play the switch 1 to 2 hours per day at most, and play on low to medium brightness? I play 2 notches above the lowest darkness setting, because thats what is comfortable for me, not because Im actually worried about burn in. I even changed the default switch background to dark mode, because again I don't like overly bright screens in the first place. My OLED screen will probably be pristine, 10 years later.
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