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#51 loco145
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Don't worru about him, he goes around saying that ps3 and 360 has bad graphics and denotes anyone saying something is negative about the wii.Communistsheep
And yet, none can counter my arguments. And I have said that the bad framerat eon the Conduit kills hte mutliplayer. (The single player maintains a smooth 30fps).

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#52 MischiefmAker
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Meh, I liked The Conduit personally, but reviewers like Yahtzee, Irate Gamer, AVGN and Nostalgia Critic are sometimes just reviewing these things just to make a laugh.nintendoboy16

It's kinda funny, I recall reading an interview with Yahtzee when he was still fairly new saying how he disliked the AVGN, but I think he's become what he hates. I still watch him, but his videos are no longer reviews like they used to be, just rants. He kinda caught onto this himself during his Infamous review, actually.

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#53 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]Don't worru about him, he goes around saying that ps3 and 360 has bad graphics and denotes anyone saying something is negative about the wii.loco145

And yet, none can counter my arguments. And I have said that the bad framerat eon the Conduit kills hte mutliplayer. (The single player maintains a smooth 30fps).

Because you're arguements are rubbish and don't make sense, you like console owners go around nitpicking games like red faction guerilla syaing it has x better because of Y and and go around on your high horse believing how much superior your pc is. And yet at the sametime, you also have a habit of nitpicking good parts of a wii game and ignoring evertyhing that is bad.
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#54 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]Don't worru about him, he goes around saying that ps3 and 360 has bad graphics and denotes anyone saying something is negative about the wii.loco145

And yet, none can counter my arguments. And I have said that the bad framerat eon the Conduit kills hte mutliplayer. (The single player maintains a smooth 30fps).

Oh and saying, ps360 has bad graphics turn you into a hypocrite.
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#55 Waffle_Fish
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he is biased against the wii, not saying that because he hated the counduit (it is a terrible game and sheep should be ashamed for hyping it) but he has made it quite clear in his reviews that he hates the wii. Still funny though
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#56 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="loco145"]

Based on what? On what Jatzee said? Or what makes the wii-mote and inferior control for FPSes.?

loco145

Based on MY OPINION.

Well, your opinion is bad then. Specially sicne you don't have any argument to sustain it.

I don't like the wii mote because i a. Don't like waggling my arms around like a bloody fool. Nor do i accept using waglle because it's implemented badly in alot of games, real time strategy and fighting games come to mind. You may denote any counter arguement, it's liek you saying analog is bad because of aim assist.
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#57 loco145
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Because you're arguements are rubbish and don't make sense, you like console owners go around nitpicking games like red faction guerilla syaing it has x better because of Y and and go around on your high horse believing how much superior your pc is. And yet at the sametime, you also have a habit of nitpicking good parts of a wii game and ignoring evertyhing that is bad.Communistsheep

I have said that the Conduit has bad multiplayer (mainly due to framerate). When did I said something about redfaction guerrilla? All i said about that game was that its so barren so it can't be used as an argument that how can the Ps3 and 360 handle higly interactive open worlds like the original vision of alan wake (anything but barren....). And if my arguments are so rubbish, they should be very easy to dispute, shouldn't they?

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#58 DaViD_99
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That was pretty hilarious. Probably one of his funniest videos so far. I don't really understand why people hyped it, i mean it actually does look really ugly.
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#59 enterawesome
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:lol: That was hilarious. Yahtzee FTW
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#60 loco145
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I don't like the wii mote because i a. Don't like waggling my arms around like a bloody fool. Nor do i accept using waglle because it's implemented badly in alot of games, real time strategy and fighting games come to mind. You may denote any counter arguement, it's liek you saying analog is bad because of aim assist.Communistsheep
That's fine and all, but what does that have to do with Wii's fps controls? And what RTS games are you talking about?

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#61 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="loco145"]

Based on what? On what Jatzee said? Or what makes the wii-mote and inferior control for FPSes.?

loco145

Based on MY OPINION.

Well, your opinion is bad then. Specially sicne you don't have any argument to sustain it.

Ok? you never asked for one and I don't see how anyone's opinion can be bad. Especially sence I have added depth to my opinion while all you did was just say that I was wrong.

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#62 Lethalhazard
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I normally don't like this guy, but I thought that was pretty funny. It's good when he reviews games that are already considered awful.
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#63 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] Based on MY OPINION.JangoWuzHere

Well, your opinion is bad then. Specially sicne you don't have any argument to sustain it.

Ok? you never asked for one and I don't see how anyone's opinion can be bad. Especially sense I have added epth to my opinion while all you did was just say that I was wrong.

Your opinion is bad because it isn't sustained in anything. I already gave you some of my arguments of why I think otherwise. Your turn.

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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Because you're arguements are rubbish and don't make sense, you like console owners go around nitpicking games like red faction guerilla syaing it has x better because of Y and and go around on your high horse believing how much superior your pc is. And yet at the sametime, you also have a habit of nitpicking good parts of a wii game and ignoring evertyhing that is bad.loco145

I have said that the Conduit has bad multiplayer (mainly due to framerate). When did I said something about redfaction guerrilla? All i said about that game was that its so barren so it can't be used as an argument that how can the Ps3 and 360 handle higly interactive open worlds like the original vision of alan wake (anything but barren....). And if my arguments are so rubbish, they should be very easy to dispute, shouldn't they?

I'm noit there when you show your arguements, but red faction: G was a perfect example where you nitpicked the smallest things in favor of the pc, even though it had some heavy physics. It can still be used, it's big, it has physics, simply because it's barren doesn't change anything.
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#65 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]I don't like the wii mote because i a. Don't like waggling my arms around like a bloody fool. Nor do i accept using waglle because it's implemented badly in alot of games, real time strategy and fighting games come to mind. You may denote any counter arguement, it's liek you saying analog is bad because of aim assist.loco145

That's fine and all, but what does that have to do with Wii's fps controls? And what RTS games are you talking about?

There are no Rts games, that's the problem, why hasn't there been one?
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#66 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="loco145"]

Just because Jaztzee says so? :roll: Ignoring (almost) every other review out there including this site that says that the game controls very good?

loco145

Sooooo....what? I can't form my own opinion I have to hide behind other critics? You seem to think that I never played any Wii FPS games and I say that Wii FPS controls are not very good. Their not bad but a gamepad is still better.

In what sense? I base mine in the fact that WIi fps doens't need aim asist unlike dual analog fps. Also, the pointer is way more precise and faster for aiming. Pointer based games like Castle Defence and World of Goo can't be done with dual analog, the developers of those games said as much. And even the sony guys said something like it during their E3 demonstration (finally you can point at your units and wrtie your name on the screen!).

]In what sense? I base mine in the fact that WIi fps doens't need aim asist unlike dual analog fps.

Aiming is fine but everything else is not.

Also, the pointer is way more precise and faster for aiming

I don't see how its any faster then a gamepad. Also considering that stuff like turning or looking up and down feels disjointed and akward.

Pointer based games like Castle Defence and World of Goo can't be done with dual analog, the developers of those games said as much.

What does this have to do with FPS games?

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#67 Communistsheep
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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]I don't like the wii mote because i a. Don't like waggling my arms around like a bloody fool. Nor do i accept using waglle because it's implemented badly in alot of games, real time strategy and fighting games come to mind. You may denote any counter arguement, it's liek you saying analog is bad because of aim assist.loco145

That's fine and all, but what does that have to do with Wii's fps controls? And what RTS games are you talking about?

Oh and unlike alot of analog controls, where you merly have to adjust sensitivity, you have to tweak fps games on the wii to perfection, which is a hassle already, it just provest hat wii motion controls has problems adapting to a large adience hwne it comes to FPS.
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#68 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]I don't like the wii mote because i a. Don't like waggling my arms around like a bloody fool. Nor do i accept using waglle because it's implemented badly in alot of games, real time strategy and fighting games come to mind. You may denote any counter arguement, it's liek you saying analog is bad because of aim assist.Communistsheep

That's fine and all, but what does that have to do with Wii's fps controls? And what RTS games are you talking about?

There are no Rts games, that's the problem, why hasn't there been one?

Here Besides that, I don't know why they haven't made more retail RTS games for the Wii. Seems like a good match.
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#69 loco145
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Camera movement is also fine. The problem that Yatzee said is countered by practice. And yes, you can look up in the Conduit.

I don't see how its any faster then a gamepad. Also considering that stuff like turning or looking up and down feels disjointed and akward.JangoWuzHere

Because:

Pointer based games like Castle Defence and World of Goo can't be done with dual analog, the developers of those games said as much.

What does this have to do with FPS games?JangoWuzHere

It shows how dual analog can't compete with a pointer (wii.mote, mouse) for aiming (pointing, you are only really aiming when you play a light gun game).

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#70 JangoWuzHere
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Camera movement is also fine. The problem that Yatzee said is countered by practice. And yes, you can look up in the Conduit.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I don't see how its any faster then a gamepad. Also considering that stuff like turning or looking up and down feels disjointed and akward.loco145

Because:

Pointer based games like Castle Defence and World of Goo can't be done with dual analog, the developers of those games said as much.

What does this have to do with FPS games?JangoWuzHere

It shows how dual analog can't compete with a pointer (wii.mote, mouse) for aiming (pointing, you are only really aiming when you play a light gun game).

Your not adding anything really besides saying the same stuff you already said. No camera movement is not fine. Its slow and wonky. And again what do games like World of Goo have to do with FPS games? They are not comparable in a lot of ways. And again I have alrwady said that aiming is fine but everything else sucks. But even then its not like the aiming is much faster then a regular gamepad.
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#71 loco145
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Oh and unlike alot of analog controls, where you merly have to adjust sensitivity, you have to tweak fps games on the wii to perfection, which is a hassle already, it just provest hat wii motion controls has problems adapting to a large adience hwne it comes to FPS.Communistsheep

Since when does having options is a bad thing? I have a programable on-the-flyresolution-changing gaming mouse. Those that means that M/KB isn't good also because i chose to tweak ? People have been playing with dual analogs for 3 generations by now, so its not wonder that many are used to them by now.

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#72 loco145
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No camera movement is not fine. Its slow and wonky.JangoWuzHere

No, I made a video of me controlling the camera at WaW. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfEBS_vo74

There. And aiming is not only fine. Is way faster and precise than dual analog. This is impossible with dual analog. This is also impossible.

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#73 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]No camera movement is not fine. Its slow and wonky.loco145

No, I made a video of me controlling the camera at WaW. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GfEBS_vo74

There. And aiming is not only fine. Is way faster and precise than dual analog. This is impossible with dual analog. This is also impossible.

ok good for you I guess but from my past experiances the turning was awful. And the 2 videos you posted of coarse have nothing to do with FPS games.
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#74 Silenthps
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one of his worst ones in terms of comedy imo. maybe if he dropped his anti-wii fanboyism he'd actually be funny, but instead every wii game he reviews is just the same ol repetitive I H8 THE WII YARGGH
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one of his worst ones in terms of comedy imo. maybe if he dropped his anti-wii fanboyism he'd actually be funny, but instead every wii game he reviews is just the same ol repetitive I H8 THE WII YARGGH Silenthps
He liked Overkill and No More Heroes.
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#76 loco145
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ok good for you I guess but from my past experiances the turning was awful. And the 2 videos you posted of coarse have nothing to do with FPS games.JangoWuzHere

Hey, I understand people having great time with dual analog FPSes. I understand people being more comfortable with them at this time, after all they have been the standard for console gaming for 3 gens. I understand people not giving time to Wii FPSes due to quality, the graphics, scope, online, variety, etc.

What I don't accept is people spouting the baseless crap that dual analog is superior, leave alone that the wii-mote is bad. My final point is, that if its there any competitive game that allows both controlling methods, the pointer players would dominate just like the mouse do against dual analog. What is stopping activision form including clazzic controller support for the Wii CoDs? Every time someone ask for it at those games board they are laughed at for pages ;) .

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one of his worst ones in terms of comedy imo. maybe if he dropped his anti-wii fanboyism he'd actually be funny, but instead every wii game he reviews is just the same ol repetitive I H8 THE WII YARGGH Silenthps
Who cares? What, he can't form an opinion on the system? I don't understand why you care really. Especially sence he adds depth to his arguements on why he does not like the system so its not like hes just bashing it out of pure fanboyism.
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#78 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]ok good for you I guess but from my past experiances the turning was awful. And the 2 videos you posted of coarse have nothing to do with FPS games.loco145

Hey, I understand people having great time with dual analog FPSes. I understand people being more comfortable with them at this time, after all they have been the standard for console gaming for 3 gens. I understand people not giving time to Wii FPSes due to quality, the graphics, scope, online, variety, etc.

What I don't accept is people spouting the baseless crap that dual analog is superior, leave alone that the wii-mote is bad. My final point is, that if its there any competitive game that allows both controlling methods, the pointer players would dominate just like the mouse do against dual analog. What is stopping activision form including clazzic controller support for the Wii CoDs? Every time someone ask for it at those games board they are laugthed for pages ;) .

I really really doubt it that anyone what be childish to laugh over something like that. Anyone im done with this POINTLESS arguement and in the end I really don't care because I use the M/K for the majority of FPS games I play.
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#79 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]one of his worst ones in terms of comedy imo. maybe if he dropped his anti-wii fanboyism he'd actually be funny, but instead every wii game he reviews is just the same ol repetitive I H8 THE WII YARGGH JangoWuzHere
Who cares? What, he can't form an opinion on the system? I don't understand why you care really. Especially sence he adds depth to his arguements on why he does not like the system so its not like hes just bashing it out of pure fanboyism.

He bashes it because he gets paid to.
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#80 zero_snake99
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOO. WOWOWOW!! Awesome. I loved this one. While he probably didn't notice you can turn on the "turn while not looking at screen" feature and the "run speed" every thing else is spot on. SPOT ON. In fact, I'm watching this again.
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#81 awssk8er716
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I stopped like 30 seconds in because his voice was annoying. I can tell he didn't like the game.

All that matters is that, I enjoy the game. :)

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#82 Postal_Guy
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I love this guy

99% of the time hes wrong but I love him

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#83 svetzenlether
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...and next week he'll review and destroy some game like BlazBlue that all of you people seem to LOVE, and once again it'll be back to "he's not funny anymore" or "I didn't laugh one bit".

After admitting to liking something as bland and uninteresting like Call of Juarez, I don't think Yahtzee has much credibility when it comes to his actul taste in games.

..and I thought the Coduit sucked, too.

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#84 ManicAce
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I love his reviews but I didn't think this was that funny, I like it better when he's doing a good game, even if it's one I happen to like.
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#85 Syferonik
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He described The Conduit perfectly. Its an UGLY game simple as that :lol:
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#86 samuraiguns
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Does any one find him hilarious?

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#87 moose_knuckler
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Does any one find him hilarious?

samuraiguns
Reading through posts on here will have your answer.
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#88 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Does any one find him hilarious?

moose_knuckler
Reading through posts on here will have your answer.

I looked through random pages and I didn't see any hilariousity reactions.
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#89 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]one of his worst ones in terms of comedy imo. maybe if he dropped his anti-wii fanboyism he'd actually be funny, but instead every wii game he reviews is just the same ol repetitive I H8 THE WII YARGGH JangoWuzHere
Who cares? What, he can't form an opinion on the system? I don't understand why you care really. Especially sence he adds depth to his arguements on why he does not like the system so its not like hes just bashing it out of pure fanboyism.

I kind of just told you why I cared. It's repetitive, which makes it boring. His reviews should try bringing something new to the table instead of every wii game he reviews basically being the same thing where half the vid is bashing the wii and a small percent being on reviewing the actual game.
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#90 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Does any one find him hilarious?

samuraiguns
Reading through posts on here will have your answer.

I looked through random pages and I didn't see any hilariousity reactions.

were you expecting "epic win LOLOLOL ROFL" :? :P
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#91 rcignoni
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Excellent review.
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#92 Im_single
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He's funny when he's reviewing an actually bad game, but when he's ripping apart genuinely decent or good games then I just can't agree or stand him.
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#93 mexicangordo
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I can't believe theres people saying "excellent review" or "hit it on the nail." Most people here havn't even played the Conduit, and although the game wasn't so great, he shows his fanboyism way to much when it comes to Wii games. I still enjoy his reviews for entertainment but i really do dislike his Wii reviews. It just somes like its filled with fanboy hate rather than funny points/satire.

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#94 Im_single
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I can't believe theres people saying "excellent review" or "hit it on the nail." Most people here havn't even played the Conduit, and although the game wasn't so great, he shows his fanboyism way to much when it comes to Wii games. I still enjoy his reviews for entertainment but i really do dislike his Wii reviews. It just somes like its filled with fanboy hate rather than funny points/satire.

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The Wii gets a ton of hate even though it has some genuinely good games, it's more or less the halo GEOW COD crowd who's ages range from 12-18 and who's maturity ranks somewhere around an 8 year old's who hate on the Wii, I don't take it to heart, they are just too immature to pick up a game with any ounce of colour and lacking of blood and guns. No offense to yahtzee but he has incredibly bad taste in games, Conduit not that great but the games he does seem to like (painkiller, Bioshock, and COJ) aren't all too great either, also he claims himself to be a mighty PC gamer but he rarely picks up a PC exclusive game to review, why not? Also why does he continue bashing the wii and playing some of it's worst games and using that as a basis to judge the console on?
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#95 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Does any one find him hilarious?

Reading through posts on here will have your answer.

I looked through random pages and I didn't see any hilariousity reactions.

I think hes hilarious. There happy now? :)
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#96 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]one of his worst ones in terms of comedy imo. maybe if he dropped his anti-wii fanboyism he'd actually be funny, but instead every wii game he reviews is just the same ol repetitive I H8 THE WII YARGGH Silenthps
Who cares? What, he can't form an opinion on the system? I don't understand why you care really. Especially sence he adds depth to his arguements on why he does not like the system so its not like hes just bashing it out of pure fanboyism.

I kind of just told you why I cared. It's repetitive, which makes it boring. His reviews should try bringing something new to the table instead of every wii game he reviews basically being the same thing where half the vid is bashing the wii and a small percent being on reviewing the actual game.

Maybe its not anti-wii fanboyism? Maybe alot of people honestly don't enjoy what the Wii has to offer and Wii fanboys can't accept that and its their fanboyism, not his, thats the problem?
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#97 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

I can't believe theres people saying "excellent review" or "hit it on the nail." Most people here havn't even played the Conduit, and although the game wasn't so great, he shows his fanboyism way to much when it comes to Wii games. I still enjoy his reviews for entertainment but i really do dislike his Wii reviews. It just somes like its filled with fanboy hate rather than funny points/satire.

Im_single

The Wii gets a ton of hate even though it has some genuinely good games, it's more or less the halo GEOW COD crowd who's ages range from 12-18 and who's maturity ranks somewhere around an 8 year old's who hate on the Wii, I don't take it to heart, they are just too immature to pick up a game with any ounce of colour and lacking of blood and guns. No offense to yahtzee but he has incredibly bad taste in games, Conduit not that great but the games he does seem to like (painkiller, Bioshock, and COJ) aren't all too great either, also he claims himself to be a mighty PC gamer but he rarely picks up a PC exclusive game to review, why not? Also why does he continue bashing the wii and playing some of it's worst games and using that as a basis to judge the console on?



Maybe you should just stop taking him so seriously? :)

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#98 PS2_ROCKS
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I think he summed it up quite well. If we aren't comparing Wii games to the other console games then what the heck are we doing? Lowering our standards, that's what. I'm not saying all Wii games are this poor but from what I'm seeing the majority are.
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#99 Gta3-fan334
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The truth is that the Wii sucks for FPS's.

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#100 wolverine4262
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OMG! I watched Secretary like 2 nights ago...I was bored