I don't want to marry anyone who has a belief in superstitions, the paranormal, and the supernatural. I also don't want to marry anyone who believes that murder (including abortion), rape, thievery, and adultery isn't wrong.
You?
I don't want to marry anyone who has a belief in superstitions, the paranormal, and the supernatural. I also don't want to marry anyone who believes that murder (including abortion), rape, thievery, and adultery isn't wrong.
You?
Surely when I meet someone I will have a first impression by what this person believes in or doesnt believe in. I mean if I know that person is an Islamist, yes I would have the impression that we wouldnt fit together well. But I always wait to know someone well and if their behavior is not influenced by their beliefs then I see no problem. As long as they are good people, kind-hearted and have virtues then why should it matter.
Now if what your fear G_C are the inevitable debates that will take place between the couple, then I will say that if you love the person next to you then you wont try to talk in order to convince or with the attitude of the debater. Those things seem to go away when you love somebody. (this sentence's "you"s were general and not to you, G_C). At least for me thats how it should be. :?
Now I dont think there are many people who consider ALL of those things that you listed, to be right.
I would only have a problem with the obvious: murder (NOT including abortion because I am sure most people accept that its moraly wrong just like murder but sometimes its a necessary evil [prepares for angered responses on that comment:P]), rape and thievery.
I probably would not have a serious relationship with a person who didn't share my beliefs, if only because you know that's going to be a major source of contention throughout the relationship. I suppose it could work out, but only if she had rather weak beliefs (you know, the "I consider myself a 'spiritual' person" type of people who only claim to be religious because it makes them feel better).
I don't want to marry anyone who has a belief in superstitions, the paranormal, and the supernatural. I also don't want to marry anyone who believes that murder (including abortion), rape, thievery, and adultery isn't wrong.
You?
Genetic_Code
Geez that's a bit stringent. What if they were an awesome person who just happened to believe in God?
My partner pretty much shares my view of God but she is *very* different to me in other ways. Our differences don't matter though because our relationship works so well. Given that it wouldn't be hard to say that even if my partner didn't share my beliefs about God we could still get along just fine.
The sanctity of life concept, especially regarding foetuses or embryos is an ongoing superstition, when you come to think of it.
On topic, if I was a theist, I would be tormented by the idea that I may recieve eternal salvation, whilst partner would suffer eternal damnation. That would surely be unbearable.
Superstition according to the OED:The sanctity of life concept, especially regarding foetuses or embryos is an ongoing superstition, when you come to think of it.
MetalGear_Ninty
Somehow I think it's not. So take that, snarky comment >_>
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]Superstition according to the OED:The sanctity of life concept, especially regarding foetuses or embryos is an ongoing superstition, when you come to think of it.
Funky_Llama
Somehow I think it's not. So take that, snarky comment >_>
Meh, no matter how you want to spin it -- a sanctity of life ethic is not devoid of some sort of unfounded belief or supernatural ethic.I'll still lol at the irony of your 'snarky comment' remark though. :lol: :P
Geez that's a bit stringent. What if they were an awesome person who just happened to believe in God?
domatron23
Then I'd reconsider. These are just general guidelines that I know can be irrelevant in the end.
Unfounded beliefs aren't necessarily superstitions - that definition specifies in both cases that the subject of the superstition must be supernatural.Meh, no matter how you want to spin it -- a sanctity of life ethic is not devoid of some sort of unfounded belief or supernatural ethic.
MetalGear_Ninty
Hey, I never said there was anything wrong with snarkiness :PI'll still lol at the irony of your 'snarky comment' remark though. :lol: :P
MetalGear_Ninty
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]Unfounded beliefs aren't necessarily superstitions - that definition specifies in both cases that the subject of the superstition must be supernatural.Meh, no matter how you want to spin it -- a sanctity of life ethic is not devoid of some sort of unfounded belief or supernatural ethic.
Funky_Llama
Meh, 'superstition' probably wasn't the right word to use in that instance.
I don't have a partner atm, but I would like them to have the same beliefs as me. Its definetely not a ncessity though. I think to me what they believe would come after other things like being generous, caring, happy, fun ect.Most people would probably feel the same.
Well my girlfriend has the same atheistic views I do, but I suppose I take that for granted sometimes. Hmm.
This is just me, but I couldn't spend my life with someone who has seriously differing beliefs unless everything else in the relationship was extraordinarily good. I've never been very passive on the subject of religion, and if she were a devout believer I would hope the discussions could be civil and a fair agreement could be made. Another result is if one of us converted, which would likely generate negative feelings.
I will not marry anyone who is not a Christian. We are told to be yoked not together with un-believers. Besides, it would be damaging to my faith, and damaging to my children's upbringing if I did.Lansdowne5
"As an atheist, no"
realy I don't give a **** what she would belive in, as long as it works it is o.k. But if she would want me to become a beliver or something like that than we have a problem, but as long as she would stick to her own religion and not bother me with it she can belive into whatever the hell she want.
[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]I will not marry anyone who is not a Christian. We are told to be yoked not together with un-believers. Besides, it would be damaging to my faith, and damaging to my children's upbringing if I did.THUMPTABLE
"that easily"? This the person I'm going to spend the rest of my life with......the person I am going to trust and cherish, the person I am going to listen to, consult, and take advice from. My faith is strong, but it could be weakened if someone close to me was constantly doubting.
PS. Yes. Damaging is exactly the right word, i.e. - "causing harm or injury".
This the person I'm going to spend the rest of my life with......the person I am going to trust and cherish, the person I am going to listen to, consult, and take advice from.Lansdowne5That's why I said in my reply that sharing values mattered a lot more to me than sharing faith, but I certainly see your point. I also agree with an important part of it: The closeness, the intimacy on every level, that it's necessary to have with your life partner, is not something to trivialize or take lightly. To me personally, sharing faith used to be important, but I later came to realize that I can be perfectly happy as long as the person I am with respects my faith. He doesn't have to share it, as long as he lets me have it. I have family members who agree with you more than with me, and ultimately, this is too personal a thing for anyone to tell anyone else what to do. We all need to do what will work best for us.
As long as we get along I have no problem with what she believes. If her beliefs are a reason for us not getting along though, I probably wouldn't be with her, but a wanting for my partner to share the same beliefs as I is not an aspiration of mine (Ha, that rhymed. I rule! :P).
Oh hell no, I want to marry a christian! According to the bible if a husband believes his whole family will be saved, so take that Pascals Wager! :P
Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband.
Acts 16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
But in all seriousness, it's not a huge deal unless they're like hardcore fundamentalist or something, I'd probably rather they be atheist though because conflicting religious beliefs can be kinda destructive to relationships because one thinks the other is going to burn for all eternity in hell.
It's funny people are accepting of many theists except for "hardcore fundamentalist" when I get the impression that the hardcore fundamentalists they might be referring to wouldn't be accepting of them in the first place.Genetic_Code
Well yes that is true :P
[QUOTE="Welkabonz"]I'm not sure how partners without the same values -- and I am not speaking morally -- can get along for long.GabuEx
If one believes in God and the other doesn't, but they both agree that murder is a bad idea, I'm not sure I see where the problem lies.
That's sort of it.[QUOTE="Welkabonz"]I'm not sure how partners without the same values -- and I am not speaking morally -- can get along for long.GabuEx
If one believes in God and the other doesn't, but they both agree that murder is a bad idea, I'm not sure I see where the problem lies.
Not to mention, if they both believe in monogamy ;) I sort of agree with Welkabonz though in that I think notions on murder and faithfulness are moral values. The existence of God and a belief in him is a religious belief, and surprisingly often kept separate from morals these days. If there is mutual respect and love for one another, a relationship between two individuals of drastically different faith can work just fine.It's not necessary, no. I've dated Jewish and Christian women before and never had a problem with it. Well the two of us didn't, their parents usually didn't like me. :P
It'd be nice to be in agreement on the subject but It'd never change the way how I feel about the person if they were religious.
I do see several potential issues with dating a theist. Since it often has such a signifigant impact on a persons lifestyle. Not to mention that all unwarranted beliefs i can think of rub me the wrong way. So i would probably prefer it if my parner was an atheist.
I can't see myself going out with a Muslim girlMrPraline
You mean any type of Muslim girl? i.e. - including "moderate" and "fundamentalist"?
Well, yes and no. I don't mind if the person I marry were religious, but I wouldn't marry a fundamentalist (whether Christian, Muslim, or otherwise) simply because religion would be too much of a barrier. I also wouldn't marry anyone who continually tried to convert me. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind.
As I am more of an agnostic, I would marry someone of any denomonation or belief, as long as I love them and they don't mind if I don't fully commit to their religion.
Who knows if I'll ever find someone like that, I'll probably end up becoming a false convert because I love the person, or marrying an atheist (which I am not sure I want to do).
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