A theory regarding Alucard and the VK

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#1 semianonymous
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Alright, so my theory, in short, is that Alucard acts as a trigger mechanism for the Whip. Consider this evidence:

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SPOILERS may be found on this thread, in relation to endings and plot of games. Read under YOUR own discretion.

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1: Alucards first documented appearance is in CV3, the first time the Belmonts defeated Dracula, and used the Whip. And even if you count Legends as canon, it still works, as Alucard was present.

2: Alucard was present in SotN (obvously), the last documented time prior to 1999 that the Belmonts could use the Whip.

3: Alucard was presumably present in 1999, when the Belmonts regained the power of the whip

Effectively, when Alucard appears, the whip either activates or deactivates, possibly to create "balance", which IGA is so fond of.

Consider this as well:

The Lecarde family acts as a trigger mechanism for the Whip. This was confirmed in PoR, with the sisters activating the power of the whip. It has long been speculated that the Lecardes are none other than decendents of Alucard and Maria, thus, it is possible that they possess the same power, but at a lower level (IE, when they arrive, the whip doesn't lose power), so instead, they must actually intentionally use the power to activate, and possibly deactivate the whip.

Discuss my amazing theory

EDIT: semi, always try to remember to create a spoiler warning for this type of threads. by chang. Thx

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#2 Icemael
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Hmm... never thought about it, but it looks like you're right. Of course, it could simply be coincindences, but it's logical...
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#3 HushRong
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there was a thing where maria said she couldnt live without alucard an that she went out looking for him...so maybe that fits in there somewhere.

also, it was thought Sonia Belmont had a romantic relationship with alucard...buts its not canon as the game has been removed from the storyline.

also, the vampire killer:

--alucard: maybe being the son of Dracula makes the VK "activate" since it was used to kill dracula it might know his blood(which runs through alucard). so maybe it has an alert feature where it can sense such a presence and react to it. but that is a wild theory.

--i cant say for Lecardes in particular...but people without the name Belmont can use the VK to a degree of its power. an easy example...a female belmont marrying an having a baby(oviously with someone outside of the family). that child would have Belmont blood in its veins. like Morris, descendant of the Belmonts...can use the VK with varying effectiveness.

i dunno if a Female Belmont having a child without the last name belmont would delude the belmont bloodline...making that child not able to use the VK fully. not being sexist...but maybe a Male Belmont has stronger blood in his veins to pass on...but thats a whole other thing is itself.

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#4 semianonymous
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Well, the reason that the Morris' cant just pick up and use the whip is because they are believed to have originated sometime around Trevors era, IE, Trevor had a Brother/Sister, they didn't get the whip, and eventually estranged themselves from the Belmonts. Hundreds of years later, they still have the Belmont genes, but its so weak and diluted, the whip won't initially recognize them.

Furthermore, consider the fact that Leon and Trevor were 300 or so years apart, meaning its very possible for Trevor to have diluted blood as well, meaning that the whip may not have worked properly until Alucard appeared.

Its also very possible that Alucard didn't even know of this power until post-SotN, and so, he taught his son, Erics Father, how to perform the ceremony, which would then be taught to the rest of the children, until 1999 came along.

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#5 GreggD
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That's all good in theory, but I'll tell you this; four plus four does not equal eight. Think about it...
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#6 HushRong
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oh that is something i didnt think about...the amount of time between each one that fights against dracula and each generation of a Belmont-Blood carrying offspring.

basically a belmont marries a non belmont, that kid gets half of the belmont gene.

that child marries a non belmont, their child will have one-fourth of that gene, and so on. (it basically gets halved every generation)

so within 300 years for example, several generations of Belmont blood carrying children are made...but all have a smaller fraction of the belmont blood compared to the previous generation.

ALSO

if Maria and Alucard had children...wouldnt their offspring be 1/4 vampire? i dont know whats the lore with halflings like Alucard...but would the children have any vampiric qualities you think?

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#7 semianonymous
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oh that is something i didnt think about...the amount of time between each one that fights against dracula and each generation of a Belmont-Blood carrying offspring.

basically a belmont marries a non belmont, that kid gets half of the belmont gene.

that child marries a non belmont, their child will have one-fourth of that gene, and so on. (it basically gets halved every generation)

so within 300 years for example, several generations of Belmont blood carrying children are made...but all have a smaller fraction of the belmont blood compared to the previous generation.

ALSO

if Maria and Alucard had children...wouldnt their offspring be 1/4 vampire? i dont know whats the lore with halflings like Alucard...but would the children have any vampiric qualities you think?

HushRong

Thats the only issue with the whole thing. It would completely go against what Alucard desired, to remove his bloodline completely. Same issue with legends, actually.

The only way it would work is if he came to the realization that his blood could activate the whip, and, most likely not wanting to exist himself, reproduced with Maria, created the Lecardes. Mind you, they'd only be 1/8th vampire, assuming Eric is the second generation. Come to think of it, Eric did have quite a few more moves in his repitoir, and he could use magic. Maybe thats how his vampirism showed itself

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#8 HushRong
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that is an interesting thought, that their family is bestowed with magical power...something a regular human could be capable of right? so it is possible that it is how the vampire gene manifested itself when only a small fraction is added with a human.

since alucard is 1/2, his children would be 1/4, their children would be 1/8 an so forth as long as the family made offspring with other Humans.

maybe if he did have children with maria...perhaps there is a way to make sure that the children born dont have a need for blood, or do no have to worry about the sun, but can use other-wordly power an above human strength. maybe a spell could be casted? *im not sure, curses can be made that affect people negatively, perhaps their is a form that is beneficial.

and i am not sure about the power of the VK...cuz nobody can easily pick it up and use it as stated. therefore...it needs that extra boost. like Jonathon..family has a fraction of Belmont blood...having the sisters activate it can make it functional. so maybe it was thought that having a fraction of the Belmont Blood with other close families like that Lecardes would allow it to work through as a fail safe?

so Jonathon + Twins power = Fully Functioning VK(that sucks the life-force of those with only a bit of belmont blood)

Belmont/Belmont Descendant + Family ally = working VK

its like a nuke...you cant launch the weapon without having two keys as an example...so maybe this way the VK couldnt be used by just anyone

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#9 semianonymous
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WARNING, MASSIVE POST AHEAD

in terms of vampiric traits:

Alucard never needs Blood, and indeed, can eat regular food. He can consume blood, but its not needed. We can assume that by the time Eric and the twins show up, its not even beneficial for them to drink blood.

In terms of daylight, he doesn't have much of an issue with that, considering how SotN's ending is outside, during the day, and as Genya, he appears outside and during the day at several points.

Now, I've been thinking about it a but, and here's what I think happened, assuming my theory is right.

He activated the whip with out knowing it in CV3. He subsequently deactivated it in SotN, still unaware of his latent ability (Something I'll bet Dracula would kill to have). It wasn't until later, when Maria, still trying to convince him to not end himself, mentioned this imbalance. Alucard did some studying, some stuff happened, and he figured it out. He and Maria had a child, who was doubtlessly very skilled in magic, which was only amplified by his/her vampiric abilities. Some tests occured, and Alucard, wanting to rid himself from the world but not destroy himself, having knowledge of the 1999 prophecy, left, after instructing his child on how to perform the ritual, which he and Maria doubtlessly created. He also most likely put the child in contact with the Morris clan, who were filled in on the situation, and given the whip.

Skip to Bloodlines. Eric, knowing what he could do, aided John by not only fighting him on the sidelines, but by reactivating the whip, and possibly his presence aided the whips power. Unfortunately, he failed to deactivate the whip in time, possibly because he was not instructed how, or because John simply used it too long. John created Johnathan, much to the fanbase's endless amusement, and Eric, knowing that he needed a back up, created the twins, in case something happened and he would be unable to perform the ceremony. It can also be assumed based on appearances that the twins were first, possibly already born at the time of Bloodlines. Explained below.

Skip to 1944. Johnathan has been trained in fighting, but knows nothing of the Lecarde/Morris issue. He encounters Eric as Wind, but fails to recognize him, because Eric was dead early in Johnathans life. Eric, based off looks, is about mid 30's, meaning he died in 1927 (25 in bloodlines, give maybe 10 years later). His daughters then must have been born when he was about 18, placing them at about 17/18 years old at the time of vampirism. Johnathan was born in 1926, meaning Eric was already dead for a year before Johnathan's birth. This does mean, however, that Johns death was very extended, as his death began in 1917, and it took 9 years for him to succumb, at minimum. We can assume that he lived a little longer, as he apparently taught Johnathan basic fighting before death.

Aaaaanyways, Johnathan met Eric, not recognizing him, and then eventually learned the truth, and freed the sisters. The sisters were obviously trained to perform the needed task, and because they were no longer vampires, they could remember how, and perform it. Johnny beat Hawaii shirt Dracula, etc etc. If he had failed to free the sisters, then there would be no way to reactivate the whip until Alucard reawoke. We can also assume that the ceremony was, at this point, fairly weak, and Johnathan survived, and the whip deactiaved on its own.

Come 1999, Alucard, under the Alias of Genya Arikado, but known to the various members of the group that would end Dracula as Alucard, returned. His presence once again permanently reactivated the whip for Julius, and they proceeded to sever Dracula from the Castle, thus permanently ending him. Because Genya knew of the second part of the Prophecy, he chose to not leave, and instead continue to remain on earth, meaning that if he was needed, he wouldn't deactivate the whip. 2035/6 happen, blah blah blah.

Basically, this would mean that Alucard suffers even more than previously thought. Not only does he know, post SotN, that he is effectively responsible for every single one of his fathers deaths, but he also knows that his returning to sleep is extremely risky, because his awakening will silence the power of the whip.

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Hmm... I must admit, this is a very interesting theory... very nice, Semi.
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#11 HushRong
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going with that theory...alucard has alot on his plate.

*side idea* with all of this going on with alucard(going with these theories)...i wonder if Dracula would ever consider having another child/children... to combat this. too bad he just raises from the dead, gets whooped, an goes back to being dead.

well, im gonna have to think more on this

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#12 semianonymous
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going with that theory...alucard has alot on his plate.

*side idea* with all of this going on with alucard(going with these theories)...i wonder if Dracula would ever consider having another child/children... to combat this. too bad he just raises from the dead, gets whooped, an goes back to being dead.

well, im gonna have to think more on this

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I doubt he ever considered it. Odds are, he had no way of knowing. Alucard didn't find out until post SotN, and by then, the last shred of Dracula's humanity, and sanity, were gone. Even if he did learn, I doubt he would consider reproducing with a filthy human.

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yea.. I pretty much agree with all here, both semi and hush.. and the only issue taht ahve always bother me (actually about Alucard and Sonia, never thought about maria) is that vampire descendant part. As far as we know teh lecarde do not have any vamp blood.

Thus i ahve alwasy wonder why his spear is on that family.

That said, and going with the Morris issue... a "trevor descendant"... hmmm... source? I have never runinto that one. or is tis your theory... That is a interested theory anyway.

Now, I ahve a question for you, the whip was used in it full potential by Christopher (unless you go with the theory that actually it did not had it true power, I know there is a theory that said so, reason why Dracula escape) but... if he use his true power, alucard was not there.. Or could that be another point to say that the whip was not at it max?

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#14 HushRong
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yea.. I pretty much agree with all here, both semi and hush.. and the only issue taht ahve always bother me (actually about Alucard and Sonia, never thought about maria) is that vampire descendant part. As far as we know teh lecarde do not have any vamp blood.

Thus i ahve alwasy wonder why his spear is on that family.

That said, and going with the Morris issue... a "trevor descendant"... hmmm... source? I have never runinto that one. or is tis your theory... That is a interested theory anyway.

Now, I ahve a question for you, the whip was used in it full potential by Christopher (unless you go with the theory that actually it did not had it true power, I know there is a theory that said so, reason why Dracula escape) but... if he use his true power, alucard was not there.. Or could that be another point to say that the whip was not at it max?

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well, the sonia and alucard part would have been more likely to have happened if the game they were in wasnt cut from the story.

about Christopher...maybe he didnt need anything to help power the VK...maybe he was ticked off enough that the VK was spurned into action. other than that i have no idea if the whip was powered or not during that game...

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#15 semianonymous
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Well, if my theory is right, when Alucard activated it, it stayed activated until he came back. Chris, Simon, Juste, Richter and all the little Belmonts in between all had the powered whip until Alucard came back, thus turning off the whip. Its like a light switch, it stays on until turned off. With the subsequent generations, they lost the power, so it was weaker, meaning it would last for less time. For Eric and John, it lasted about 10 or so years. For the Sisters, it lasted an unknown amount of time, maybe only a year or two.

EDIT: Also, chang, from the other thread, yeah, I consider the best ending canon. The worst ending implies that the Belmonts are now completely dead, as there is nothing that hints that Richter ever had a child (and basing off of how Annette looked, she wasn't pregnant at any time), or that he had a brother/sister. The good ending can't work, because with out Maria and Alucard together, the Lecarde family never would have existed (or so it is believed). Thus, the best ending is the only one that really works.

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#16 xemnas_is_god
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boy, the things you learn in this union....

this is one of the most informative threads yet. i did not know nor remember half the stuff said above.

but it makes perfect sense as always. go semi and your crazy photographic memory.